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A more perfect union?
The Washington Times ^ | 7-18-07 | Elizabeth Miller

Posted on 07/18/2007 7:40:00 AM PDT by JKrive

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To: Lorianne
I forgot about the tourism industry, and it's huge. I didn't forget (so much) about agriculture/fishery. None of the above are particularly good reasons to merge two countries, though.

Unless our population had nothing to do and was starving to death. :)

21 posted on 07/18/2007 10:19:01 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ravingnutter

Fact: The SPP respects and leaves the unique cultural and legal framework of each of the three countries intact. Nothing in the SPP undermines the U.S. Constitution. In no way does the SPP infringe upon the sovereignty of the United States.
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You have to be a paid flak.

Worse, to have a guy like you on this board who would consciously murder his own country is discouraging

SPP is modeled after the early eu agreements between france and germany back in the 1950’s. You know that. the grand vision was to start with economic union and then proceed to political union. You know that too.

These matters are openly consistantly discussed at places like davos and various internationalist american publications. You know that too.

everything from current de facto free movement of labor to the planned highway & bulk water transfers from canada is set up within the the greater NAU model. You know that too.

And yet you open your mouth and breathe insipid insulting lies.

More americans have been murdered by illegal aliens than have died in Iraq. You best pray you don’t catch a bullit from an illegal alien and die the hopeless shameful death so many American have been forced to die.


22 posted on 07/18/2007 2:51:46 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Bite me...I went out and did a Google search on the SPP and came up with that website. I have a good reputation on this board for my research, and I haven’t seen anyone post any sources for any of the claims they are making about this except for citing Corsi articles from WND...not credible, they have become a joke. If you have credible information with sources that disputes the source that I gave, then post it, I welcome it. The other posted said they had sources but listed no links, you did the same. I don’t accept that...that is no reason to call me a paid flak or liar, because I am neither.


23 posted on 07/19/2007 7:23:24 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Nice try.


24 posted on 07/19/2007 8:49:59 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

“Nice try”? That’s all you have to add to the debate? You won’t post your sources for your claims? Or maybe you can’t because they all go back to Corsi. Back at ya...nice try on your part...but unsourced claims aren’t gonna fly on here.


25 posted on 07/19/2007 9:04:23 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

anyone looking at your first statements can see how expertly they are parsed.

to then claim ignorance is just hapless.


26 posted on 07/19/2007 10:31:02 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

You claim to know all about expertly parsed sentences and you can’t even use proper sentence structure...LOL! Try again.


27 posted on 07/19/2007 10:43:53 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Now you’re just wasting everyone’s time.

If you actually have a job that’s spp related, I don’t think there will be any changes during Bush’s term. He’s a bilderburger. So you have about 18 months to plan for new job.

But after that I think there will be a big change. For current NAU policy to remain on track there would have to be democratic president. But I don’t think that a democrat will be elected. The french hated Chirac and yet they couldn’t bring themselves to elect a female socialist. If the french can’t elect a female leftist —it ain’t going to happen here. So I don’t think Hillary is electable.


28 posted on 07/19/2007 11:22:32 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: JKrive

I’ll read this right after I get done reading “89 reasons why the world will end in 1989” :p


29 posted on 07/19/2007 11:23:40 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: ckilmer
If you actually have a job that’s spp related, I don’t think there will be any changes during Bush’s term. He’s a bilderburger. So you have about 18 months to plan for new job.

Nope...I work in the Aerospace/Aeromedical R&D contracting sector, have for 21 years.

For current NAU policy to remain on track there would have to be democratic president. But I don’t think that a democrat will be elected.

I agree. Then why are you wasting everyone's time talking about something that is not going to happen? My point is...until I see some real facts laid on the table that this is an actual threat, I am not going to worry about some NWO theory being pushed by Corsi. No one has been able to supply me with those facts to date.

30 posted on 07/19/2007 11:55:31 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: rogue yam
Mexico also has heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine and marijuana

All which before the early 20th century (well except meth) and 'Progressives' were perfectly legal in the separate and sovereign states of this union. However do you think the Framers were able to exist in a union of states that didn't have ridiculous laws preventing citizens from doing what they chose with their own selves?

31 posted on 07/19/2007 11:59:32 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: ravingnutter

No one has been able to supply me with those facts to date.
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Sounds like you’re new to FR.

Nobody will do your work for you this go round because its been done to death in the last couple years.

This stuff is posted pretty regularly on FR.

Hang around. You’ll see it.


32 posted on 07/19/2007 12:04:31 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer
I am certainly not new, I've been here since Feb of 1999 and I am very well-known for my research on this forum. If I dispute what someone says, I provide them with facts with links from credible sources to back up my side of the debate. This "do your own research" attitude exhibited by some on here when confronted for facts does not help the debate...you are basically asking me to take you at your word just because you say you know the facts. It doesn't work that way with me, I am too logically inclined. I take all the facts and weigh them out, then I form my opinion.

Yes, there has been quite a lot posted on here about this issue...all of it can be traced back to Corsi and WND, whom I deem about as credible as The Weekly World News. In fact, I may start referring to Corsi as Batboy if this continues.

The Buildaboogers have been talking a good game for over 50 years, but they are apparently a miserable failure at implementing their so-called agenda. They don't even warrant a tin-foil hat with me anymore, LOL!

33 posted on 07/19/2007 12:28:40 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: billbears

I do not understand your reply to me. Just fyi.


34 posted on 07/19/2007 12:30:24 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ravingnutter

Sounds like you live in a safe neighborhood. Small chance you’ll be murdered. Good for you. But watch your back.

I don’t get the animosity toward Corsi. He looks at the same stuff as Rep King or Rep.Tancredo.

It was McCain who tried to sneak the amnesty bill through the senate and had his head handed to him. He carried the Bush’s water and now his campaign is stone dead.

As I mentioned you’ll get to keep your job for about 18 months. Use the time well to look for another.


35 posted on 07/19/2007 12:57:03 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: nicmarlo; processing please hold

Cool, the Washington Times picked it up.


36 posted on 07/19/2007 12:59:01 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: ravingnutter
This "do your own research" attitude exhibited by some on here when confronted for facts does not help the debate...you are basically asking me to take you at your word just because you say you know the facts.

Word.

37 posted on 07/19/2007 1:00:12 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ovrtaxt; processing please hold
"You can't deny the working groups are doing it," Mr. Corsi countered. "You can deny the interpretation of it, but they're doing it."

bttt!

38 posted on 07/19/2007 1:04:27 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ravingnutter; Rudder

You are posting self-serving propaganda by the very government who is pursuing the North American Union/Community.

I told you before, yesterday, I believe, this would not stand up in any court of law as either legitimate or adequate proof to back up denials of the accusations made against the government’s intent.


39 posted on 07/19/2007 1:07:58 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Because the burden of proof is on the accuser, get it?


40 posted on 07/19/2007 1:08:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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