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To: NCLaw441
I share your contempt for liberals and certainly for their more abrasive spokesmen, which is most of them...all of AA. But I don't really agree that their problem is that their argument is so thin that it can't sustain itself for more than a minute or so. NPR is filled with long-form chat that spins out their opinions ad nauseum. Now I do agree that they attract a high percentage of nutjob callers when they open the phones. Actually, I think leftie talks fails in the free market mostly because they already have the entrenched, big budget, semi-public, NPR establishment which does not even have the disadvantage of having to put its listeners through lengthy commercials to pay the bills.

On the other conservative talkers, I completely agree with your comments. Completely.

But Rush has the big microphone -- which he earned -- and I frankly do not believe he did a good job on immigration. Although he laid out the threat very admirably and in some detail on a few days, on other days he expressed his annoyance with the constancy and fever-pitch of the debate. He wanted to talk about his damn golf.

We almost lost the immigration debate. It mattered a lot that someone with an audience of the size of Rush's would come on the air on some of the critical days and DEFLATE the ferver of people upset at shamnesty, explaining that he no longer gets too upset by these things.

He no longer gets too upset by them, because he is not the least angry anymore, as all conservatives need to be. What has he got to be angry about? He can build his own wall, have his drivers carry him about in Hummers. He doesn't shop at Walmart. Nobody is going to put a car up on blocks in the yard next to him. He cares about golf and fancy restaurants and a celebrity lifestyle. Good on him...he earned it and he has a right to enjoy it. But he is not longer doing much of a service for the conservative movement, IMO. I'd like to let him play golf EVERYday and give over that golden EIB microphone to someone with some fire in the belly.

In my (NC) area, Rush is the ONLY conservative national talkshow host who is on a stations that covers the market. When he is slacking, it hurts the cause.

16 posted on 07/19/2007 4:02:03 AM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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To: SergeiRachmaninov

I’ve got to disagree with you - I think Rush was primarily responsible for informing people well enough that they became motivated to fight the immigration bill. He didn’t give people “marching orders” - he never does, but I think that’s a wise choice.

I honestly think if Rush hadn’t stood up in opposition to the Powers That Be in the Republican party, the bill would have gone through.


19 posted on 07/19/2007 4:27:30 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
I'd like to let him play golf EVERYday and give over that golden EIB microphone to someone with some fire in the belly.

The Golden EIB Microphone cannot be given. It can only be taken.

31 posted on 07/19/2007 4:50:21 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
I think Leftie Talk fails because of the average IQ of the Lefties themselves. They REQUIRE visual stimulation in order to follow the information.

Face it, if you have the attention span of a cocker spaniel, how can you follow radio? I mean, when I used to listen to NPR they delivered their schtick like ‘see spot run’! It was pretty lame and offensive too.

I am saying this from personal experience. All the Lefties I know, DON’T read books but instead have all their political ‘ideas’ from the TV and PEOPLE magazine or other periodicals which glamorize drug-addicted, celebrity losers and quote the equally bonehead rants of uneducated, photogenic bimbos who make a living by doing pretend in front of the camera.

34 posted on 07/19/2007 4:57:18 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: SergeiRachmaninov
With all respect, Sergei, I think anger is what's hurting Republicans with regard to the immigration issue. They're so blind as to indignantly call for pardons for a couple of border patrol agents -- law officers -- very likely caught up in a bad shooting, in an incident that has nothing to do with immigration and everything to do with employing officers who respect law and order. I will not be surprised if many Republicans and conservatives are taking a morally wrong position here. If they are, their anger makes them do it. They will look back and cringe.

The righteous anger makes them so blind that they think a fence is going to make a dime's worth of difference in keeping out people who can come here and find:
a) A minimum-wage job that pays the equivalent of a solid middle-class wage or better compared to where they come from, and their American competition consists mostly of ill-educated youths with no career direction or sense of work ethic.
b) A marketplace where heavy-handed government regulations have made it not only tempting, but sometimes necessary for businesses to shirk employment laws in order to stay profitable.
c) A "free" social system filled with government entitlements in education, welfare, and medical care

Republicans can get red in the face and scream all they want, but their anger blinds them to the real causes of what they're screaming at. Republicans must turn away from anger and face the truth that really hurts: the immigration problem is chiefly economic and the result of liberal government policies.

Fighting the policies is a lot harder, but will be a lot more useful, than building a stupid fence.

69 posted on 07/19/2007 5:17:54 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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