Dow and Crystalsev to Make Polyethylene from Sugar Cane Ethanol in Brazil

www.greencarcongress.com ^ | 07/19/2007 | Staff

[Red Badger]

As if we needed another way to use food.........

[Red Badger]

Another way to waste our food ping!....

[Jaysun]

The areas being considered as potential sites for the new facility are currently being used for low-density cattle grazing and are not near any rain forests. Both companies have underscored their commitment to ensuring that the plant is located in a sustainable environment.

I wonder what will happen as more and more companies are motivated by this kind of leftist ignorance instead of profit. And it seems like a bad idea to depend too heavily on crops. What about the weather and pest?

[Bluegrass Conservative]

Vehicles powered by sugar cane? Now that's one . . .

SWEET RIDE!!!

[GOP_Party_Animal]

As if we needed another way to use food....

There is some fantastic progress being made as a result of high petroleum costs. Yes, making ethanol from corn is a waste but there are a number of other crops that can be grown and reaped cheaply in lousy soil, making them a good economic alternative that does not empower the Saudis or Chavez.

I think this has great potential. Sugar cane and corn are just stepping stones.

[Camel Joe]

It’s not our food, it belongs to Brazil. Sweet potatoes can also be used to create ethanol and I eat them once a year. In fact corn is only a stopgap biofuel source and inside of 10 years won’t be used for ethanol production. It is only being used now because it can be produced in sufficient quantities in the short term. Potato farmers in the hilly glacial till areas stand to be the biggest winners as they can reclaim the snack food markets they lost to corn in the eighties and go into ethanol stock supply when corn prices retreat. Of course if they made that public knowledge you wouldn’t get enough extra corn to supply the new ethanol plants.

[Camel Joe]

Gee, great minds do think alike.

[polymuser]

I sure wish they’d use some of that cane sugar to replace the corn syrup in Coke. I miss the old flavor, which I understand is only available around passover as their kosher version.

[GOP_Party_Animal]

Yup!

[Red Badger]

It’s not our food, it belongs to Brazil.

It's just a pilot plant, but if this is a $$$$ maker, you better believe the American Ag Industry will be all over it.....

[Red Badger]

Corn syrup is not Kosher?.......

[Clemenza]

1. F-ck the Fanjul brothers (Flosun). Repeal the tariff on imported can sugar.

2. What about beet sugar. I can't think of the last time I ate a beet, and I do know that we produce a significant amount here.

3. Ethanol from corn is a waste of time and energy. Its also pushing up the price of a staple food product in much of the developing world.

[Red Badger]

ping!....

[bert]

I don’t think this has to do with food.

There is a world excess capacity of sugar and Brazil can produce lots more. The ethanol is actually rum.

We could be importing Brazil’s excess sugar at a lower price were it not for a fantastic sugar lobby that uses tax money subsidies and restricts imports.

The chemical conversion of ethanol to polyethelene is a good use of the excess sugar. Since most polyethelene is derived from petroleum feed stocks, since these feed stocks are becoming increasingly more expensive, it is a good thing if the end product can compete with similar PE derived from petroleum..

This is nearly the same as making sugar based ethanol to be blended with gasoiine.Brazil is probably the world leader in gasahol fuels.

[polymuser]

Google “kosher coke” and see for yourself.

[1rudeboy]

Coke made in Mexico is still made with sugar (for now). You can find it in the old-style glass bottles at the smaller grocery stores that cater to our [ahem] southern neighbors.

[Ancient Drive]

funny environmentalists are not concerned with the billions of corn plants being sacrificed, but when it comes to a redwood tree... oh boy!

[Red Badger]

I don’t think this has to do with food.

I won't be long before the American corn farmers start joining the chorus........

[Camel Joe]

You Sir have one of the best tag lines I’ve ever read. Having visited Juarez around 1980 I gotta believe that has been the case for quite some time.

[vikzilla]

There is some fantastic progress being made as a result of high petroleum costs.

Yes, making ethanol from corn is a waste but there are a number of other crops that can be grown and reaped cheaply in lousy soil, making them a good economic alternative that does not empower the Saudis or Chavez.

I think this has great potential. Sugar cane and corn are just stepping stones.

You're exactly right.