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Up against the warming zealots (Documentary Producer responds to critics)
theaustalian ^ | 07/20/2007 | milwguy

Posted on 07/20/2007 12:03:36 PM PDT by milwguy

WHEN I agreed to make The Great Global Warming Swindle, I was warned a middle-class fatwa would be placed on my head.

Martin Durkin says his documentary has survived last week's roasting by the ABC So I wasn't shocked that the film was attacked on the same night it was broadcast on ABC television last week, although I was impressed at the vehemence of the attack. I was more surprised, and delighted, by the response of the Australian public.

The ABC studio assault, led by Tony Jones, was so vitriolic it appears to have backfired. We have been inundated with messages of support, and the ABC, I am told, has been flooded with complaints. I have been trying to understand why.

First, the ferocity of the attack, I think, revealed the intolerance and defensiveness of the global warming camp. Why were Jones and co expending such energy and resources attacking one documentary? We are told the global warming theory is robust. They say you'd have to be off your chump to disagree. We have been assured for years, in countless news broadcasts and column inches, that it's definitely true. So why bother to stamp so aggressively on the one foolish documentary-maker - who clearly must be as mad as a snake - who steps out of line?

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: agw; algore; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarmingswindle
Nice to see that Gore and his minions are still claiming 'the debate is over'. I think it will be over soon as well. Each day seems to bring new evidence that global warming is a figment of the lefts' imagination. I saw the environmentalists described recently as "WATERMELONS" because they are green (enviromentalists) on the outside, and red (communist/socialist/DEMOCRATS) on the inside. I think it is a perfect description.
1 posted on 07/20/2007 12:03:43 PM PDT by milwguy
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To: milwguy

What’s really amazing to me is that the left has never, not once, in my entire lifetime been right about any major issue. Yet, despite the reality that they are always wrong, so much of the public seems to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I can understand them being delusional about themselves, but I sure can’t understand the 50% of the population that seems always to agree with their wrongheadedness.


2 posted on 07/20/2007 12:08:02 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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3 posted on 07/20/2007 12:12:23 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: vetsvette
What’s really amazing to me is that the left has never, not once, in my entire lifetime been right about any major issue.

I basically agree with you, but I think the left is right about Iraq, although for the wrong reasons (right reason: muslims cannot make a functional democracy without secularizing. Wrong reason: we're America and we suck). I also agree with the left about the Patriot act and warrantless wiretaps. This may be my libertarian side, but while I think we need more cops and more jails, we need weaker law enforcement at the federal level.

4 posted on 07/20/2007 12:22:03 PM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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To: vetsvette
What’s really amazing to me is that the left has never, not once, in my entire lifetime been right about any major issue. Yet, despite the reality that they are always wrong, so much of the public seems to give them the benefit of the doubt

That's because they're ALWAYS trying to do things to make the world a better place! It doesn't matter that you're WRONG all the time, all that matters is that you TRIED!

(Actually, it's more like making the sheeple think you tried, most of 'em couldn't give a flying fig whether or not any of their stuff works as long as it keeps 'em in power!)

5 posted on 07/20/2007 12:25:55 PM PDT by RogerWilko
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To: vetsvette

You have to keep it in perspective. The same people who unquestioninly believe everything on global warming also believe that steel cannot melt under intense heat.


6 posted on 07/20/2007 12:38:38 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

You have to keep it in perspective. The same people who unquestioninly believe everything on global warming also believe that steel cannot melt under intense heat.

OK. My perspective is THEY’RE FREAK’N IDIOTS AND WILL ALWAYS BE! You can’t change them - they will die freak’n idiots.


7 posted on 07/20/2007 12:48:07 PM PDT by Bitsy
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To: milwguy

I must say, the first two weeks of July have been rather mild on the heat index and I’ve rather enjoyed it.


8 posted on 07/20/2007 12:59:09 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: milwguy
Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:


9 posted on 07/20/2007 1:02:16 PM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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To: Jibaholic
“I basically agree with you, but I think the left is right about Iraq, although for the wrong reasons”

The left wants us to pull out of Iraq and effectively leave it to either al Qaeda or Iran -
- in the 1st instance as a terrorist state to replace Afghanistan after a period of mass genocide estimated to involve the death of upwards of 2 million

- in the 2nd instance to have total control of the world’s biggest oil reserves and have a base from which to take control of most of the rest of Middle Eastern reserves; eliminate Israel; foment global jihad against the West

One can certainly argue about whether we were wise to invade Iraq — reasonable people can disagree on this — but given where we are today, abandoning the effort at this stage doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense. particularly when Gen. Patreus believes that we can contain the violence.

“I also agree with the left about the Patriot act and warrantless wiretaps.”

I know of no “warrantless wiretaps” — the only ones that existed were for international calls to known terrorists (which I saw nothing wrong with at all) and these were voluntarily stopped by Bush

The Patriot Act made me more than a little nervous when first enacted, but I’ve yet to see a single negative consequence to the American public and the Government folks responsible for fighting terrorism say that its provisions are responsible for preventing numerous terrorist incidents in America. Lots of folks wax eloquent with generalities about the patriot Act, but I’ve never seen a reasoned objection based on either its provisions or its actual effect.

Certainly, I understand at some level not trusting Government. That said, individuals cannot, in any meaningful way, fight terrorism — only Government can do that. We have to either provide them the tools or accept living a life of constant terrorist attacks like the Israeli’s do. I’ve spent a lot of time in Israel and prefer the approach that gives Government the tools that they need.

Bottom line, I don’t accept that the Left is “right” about these issues either. In fact, I don’t think that most of them think that they’re right either — they’re just against anything that Bush supports or anything that contributes to defense of America. They view America in the same way the jihadists view America — as the Great Satan (of course, as atheists, they use different terminology)

10 posted on 07/20/2007 1:09:24 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: milwguy

GW ping


11 posted on 07/20/2007 1:12:11 PM PDT by ocr1
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To: xcamel

There’s a comment section on the link, which I presume Martin Durkin will definitely read.


12 posted on 07/20/2007 1:13:25 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee)
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To: milwguy

BUMP!

13 posted on 07/20/2007 1:20:05 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: vetsvette

If we got out of Iraq now, the Suuni’s and Shiites would start fighting for control. And since the Shiites outnumber the Suunis, that means they would start winning. So Suunis from Saudi Arabia and Syria would be pulled in. This would in turn pull in Shiites from Iran. Rather than US soldiers killing Muslims, we have Muslims killing Muslims. That is an ideal solution. Ideally the whole Middle East would be pulled into a giant war.


14 posted on 07/20/2007 1:23:04 PM PDT by Jibaholic (http://www.gentlerespect.com)
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To: milwguy
They say you'd have to be off your chump to disagree

Off your chump? Can any Aussies translate "chump"?

15 posted on 07/20/2007 1:34:22 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Minn

Not an Aussie, but I’m guessing it roughly translates to “rocker”.


16 posted on 07/20/2007 1:41:35 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jibaholic
It would seem a great idea until the entire world economy came to a screaming halt. Like it or not, the world runs on Middle Eastern oil.
17 posted on 07/20/2007 1:41:53 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Interestingly, it has been so cool here in central Texas, that I have not heard the phrase “heat index” yet ths summer.


18 posted on 07/20/2007 1:45:10 PM PDT by Tex Pete
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To: Jibaholic
“Ideally the whole Middle East would be pulled into a giant war.”

So, the major producers of oil for the whole world are involved in a nasty religious war for years. At the end, most likely on religious sect ends up controlling most of the oil production for the world, and it is certainly going to be anti-US.

Hundreds of thousands of basically innocent women and children who are Muslim, not to mention the men, are killed. And what do we gain? And this gains us what?

19 posted on 07/20/2007 2:28:53 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: milwguy
There's a lot riding on this theory. And it has bugger-all to do with sea levels.

What a wonderful article. Thanks for posting it. This guy has it right - global warming IS a political movement, much like a religion. It is populated by the elite and the elite-wannabees who think that prosperity has been pushed down way too much, that we, the "little people", have too much money and too much leisure, so we're travelling to the beautiful places on earth and SCREWING THEM UP.

Most of the GW watermelons will not be content until we (the "little people", "Joe Six Pack") are living in caves, wearing animal skins, and grubbing for roots and berries.

I resent like hell that Republicans are paying lip service to this nonsense. It must be defeated.

20 posted on 07/20/2007 3:27:33 PM PDT by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: vetsvette

” What’s really amazing to me is that the left has never, not once, in my entire lifetime been right about any major issue. Yet, despite the reality that they are always wrong, so much of the public seems to give them the benefit of the doubt. “

Love that, mind if I use it ?


21 posted on 07/20/2007 3:32:24 PM PDT by JMJJR (Paristan, Londonstan, Denmarkstan, Washigntonstan, how will you look in YOUR new burka ?)
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To: vetsvette
What’s really amazing to me is that the left has never, not once, in my entire lifetime been right about any major [save-the earth] issue.

I am probably older than you, and I agree. not a single time.

Among other things, that's what makes them angry; having a perfect score in wrongness. I think G.K. Chesterton stated the reason perfectly quite a few years ago:

”Men defend most violently, not the things they know to be true, but the things they fear may be false.” -- C.K. Chesterton

22 posted on 07/20/2007 3:35:32 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: milwguy

The left never has to be correct. They just have to persuade enough people that they really care. “I feel your pain.” Then they get the votes to stay in power and can do whatever they please.


23 posted on 07/20/2007 3:43:43 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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To: milwguy

“Why are the global warmers so zealous? After a year of arguing with people about this, I am convinced that it’s because global warming is first and foremost a political theory. It is an expression of a whole middle-class political world view. This view is summed up in the oft-repeated phrase “we consume too much”. I have also come to the conclusion that this is code for “they consume too much”. People who believe it tend also to think that exotic foreign places are being ruined because vulgar oiks can afford to go there in significant numbers, they hate plastic toys from factories and prefer wooden ones from craftsmen, and so on.”

You know, I think he’s on to something here although I wouldn’t attribute this to “a whole middle-class political world view...” More like an ‘upper class political world view’ that all of us ‘less than upper class’ are consumming too much. We’ve moving out of the cities and cramping the idylic life in the country for example. We need to be kept in place where we don’t bother the elite gentlefolk like Algore and his buddies. And the rules and restrictions necessary to fight ‘global warming’ are do just that without affecting the ‘carbon offset’ crowd like Algore.

Thanks for posting this. I appreciate the insight this article provided.


24 posted on 07/20/2007 3:44:15 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (A patriot will cast their vote in the manner most likely to deny power to democrats.)
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To: vetsvette
"I sure can’t understand the 50% of the population that seems always to agree with their wrongheadedness."

Actually, it is really easy to understand. Remember, half the population has below average intelligence.
25 posted on 07/20/2007 6:28:08 PM PDT by Free_SJersey (THE GOVERNMENT THAT GOVERNS LEAST, GOVERNS BEST.)
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Live Earth Vs. Africa
Accra Mail | 7/11/2007 | Kofi Benti
Posted on 07/19/2007 7:10:17 PM EDT by Argus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1868652/posts


26 posted on 07/20/2007 10:47:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, July 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DugwayDuke
International communists/statists/marxist/tyrants have been attempting to get the US to reduce it's energy consumption, and thus it's ability to produce goods and millitary might, for decades. Oil and gas are the best forms of inexpensive and relatively clean energy on Earth and we are blessed by having a large supply (as well as the ability to buy more than we have from others).

In the 60's the left fought "big oil" over the smog issue.

In the 70's we were headed for an ice age because of oil produced particulates in the atmosphere.

In the 80's it was the fouling of the oceans with oil spills from off-shore drilling that was going to kill us all.

In the 90's it was the petroleum-based chemicals that were wreaking havoc on the ozone layer or the stratosphere or some such nonsense.

Now in the 21st century the same oil that was going to freeze us to death in the 70's is going to boil us!

The same people with the same goals and anti-American motives targeting the same vital US resource with the same zeal! Only the title of each decade's horror show has changed but the plot and cast are the same!
27 posted on 07/20/2007 11:22:39 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: milwguy; DaveLoneRanger
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. at LIVE EARTH

Kennedy calls "climate change" deniers to be "traitors" guilty of "treason," and that he'll "see all of you on the barricades." The video has been yanked from other websites. If you haven't heard it, click the link before it is yanked there too. It's still working and only 6 minutes long.

28 posted on 07/21/2007 2:08:00 PM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: milwguy
The internet version of the film is once again back up on the net:

The Great Global Warming Swindle

29 posted on 07/21/2007 7:42:35 PM PDT by CedarDave (Only Republicans commit crimes. With Democrats it's a misunderstanding or baseless Republican charge)
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To: cartoonistx

Now here’s one the should convince you doubters!:)
Pristine Alaskan Glacier Turns Into Tropical Wasteland
http://www.ecoenquirer.com/Frosty-Cove-Alaska.htm


30 posted on 07/25/2007 9:38:54 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Pristine Alaskan Glacier Turns Into Tropical Wasteland)
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To: cartoonistx

Now here’s one that should convince you doubters!:)
Pristine Alaskan Glacier Turns Into Tropical Wasteland
http://www.ecoenquirer.com/Frosty-Cove-Alaska.htm


31 posted on 07/25/2007 9:39:11 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Pristine Alaskan Glacier Turns Into Tropical Wasteland)
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To: milwguy

bttt


32 posted on 09/27/2007 11:39:42 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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