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Menu labeling, trans fat ban approved by the Board of Health (King County, Washington State)
King County Public Health ^ | July 19, 2007

Posted on 07/20/2007 1:27:17 PM PDT by Stoat

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To: durasell
I don’t see anything wrong with this. People can read the information and take personal responsibility for their choices.

Menu labeling is only half of the issue at hand here.  I think that the notion of The Government using it's sledgehammer to forcibly legislate the entire restaurant industry to comply with specific food and preparation choices has gotten a lot of people's backs up.  Although I have no doubt that a reduction in transfat consumption would be beneficial for many people (as is the case for innumerable food additives), legislating that NOBODY is EVER allowed to sell such products in King County I think strikes many as heavyhanded when a more gentle education program might be even more effective, and less emblematic of an overreaching Government as well.

Just because Government CAN use it's full might on an issue doesn't necessarily mean that it 'should'.

21 posted on 07/20/2007 2:12:21 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Mase
In addition to the fact that Coke and Pepsi aren't made with corn syrup, what else are you misinformed about? Hummmmm have you read a label on a bottle classic coke or Pepsi lately? I did not think so Coke reds High Fructose Corn Syrup and/or Sucrose, Water, Caramel Color, Phosphoric Acid, Natural Flavors, Caffeine.

The Pepsi-Cola drink contains basic ingredients found in most other similar drinks including carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, sugar, colorings, phosphoric acid, caffeine, citric acid and natural flavors. The caffeine free Pepsi-Cola contains the same ingredients minus the caffeine. Now go directly to jail and do not collect 200.00

22 posted on 07/20/2007 2:14:13 PM PDT by Shots (If you see Known Illegal Immigrants it is your civic duty to report them)
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To: SoldierMedic

“Death of Dick’s Restaurants” ping :-(


23 posted on 07/20/2007 2:14:30 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: MEGoody

I look at labels on food packages all the time. A lot of valuable information on them for diabetics, food allergy sufferers, phenylketonuronics, dieters, etc. There was a time when there was no info on food products found in groceries.

Would you people have complained about an overreaching government when food labeling was first required by law? I’m sure many of you probably read the labels.

In my opinion, information is always a good thing. Additionally, I don’t think restaurant chains would have done this voluntarily.


24 posted on 07/20/2007 2:15:38 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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To: Stoat

A possible market reaction (the silver lining to this Nanny-State BS) could be the return of lard and tallow.

Yum!


25 posted on 07/20/2007 2:16:17 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Daniel 2: 20-23)
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To: Stoat

It’s a double-edged sword. If you want folks to take responsibility for themselves, then they need information. Obviously the restaurant industry is not going to do anything voluntarily that limits their potential sales.

It’s the same with Tylenol labeling — Tylenol can be extremely harmful if consumed with alcohol, yet the manufacturer has never labeled it with a warning. When I tell people that they usually say, “Gee, I didn’t know that, why don’t they say it on the label?”


26 posted on 07/20/2007 2:17:51 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Stoat

No one short of Don James could ever touch Dick’s Drive In.

Some clever Councilman (e.g. Mao Constantine) could write a grandfather clause for the Spady’s Baby.


27 posted on 07/20/2007 2:18:19 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Daniel 2: 20-23)
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To: IslandJeff
A possible market reaction (the silver lining to this Nanny-State BS) could be the return of lard and tallow.

Yum!

LMAO!

I'm guessing that an immediate reaction will be in Dick's Restaurants closing out all locations and moving to Snohomish and Pierce Counties.

28 posted on 07/20/2007 2:18:26 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Yeah I love that line..

“People will be able to make more informed food choices”

Yeah loads of “choices” you have when big brother BANS everything. :)


29 posted on 07/20/2007 2:19:34 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: durasell
It’s a double-edged sword. If you want folks to take responsibility for themselves, then they need information. Obviously the restaurant industry is not going to do anything voluntarily that limits their potential sales.

It’s the same with Tylenol labeling — Tylenol can be extremely harmful if consumed with alcohol, yet the manufacturer has never labeled it with a warning. When I tell people that they usually say, “Gee, I didn’t know that, why don’t they say it on the label?”

I haven't heard anyone complaining about the labeling issue.  Again, it's the notion of the Government forcibly dictating what restaurants and chefs can and cannot serve, and using their power to micromanage a specific item that is only a significant threat when overconsumed.  Labeling is fine....I'm all for that, but it's the second aspect of this ruling which is troublesome to many.

It sets an uncomfortable precedent for many people who believe in a limited Government.

30 posted on 07/20/2007 2:24:45 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Smaller food portions mandated by BOH coming next.


31 posted on 07/20/2007 2:26:44 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Stoat

Banning trans fats makes me uncomfortable as well, though I suspect the problem will take care of itself as new formulations come on the market.


32 posted on 07/20/2007 2:27:30 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: swarthyguy
Smaller food portions mandated by BOH coming next.

They are already doing that at The 13 Coins (a longtime stoat fave) along with higher prices, of course.

 

33 posted on 07/20/2007 2:34:49 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: swarthyguy
Sorry, previous link in post didn't work when posted.  Trying again:

http://www.13coins.com

13 Coins - Award Winning Restaurants - splash

hopefully one of these will work.  

 

34 posted on 07/20/2007 2:38:21 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

The restaurants would love it, higher profits and social welfare both satisfied.

Used to be only fancy places gave you niggardly portions for pricy entrees.

Now, we’ll have Joe’s local diner restricting your calorie intake.


35 posted on 07/20/2007 2:39:18 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: durasell
Banning trans fats makes me uncomfortable as well, though I suspect the problem will take care of itself as new formulations come on the market.

I hope that you are right, but it's been quite some time since NYC started the ball rolling with the transfat banning (I think it was NYC....or was it Berkeley?) and according to the restaurant industry, nothing that recreates the specific flavor of transfats has appeared on the market.  If this ruling was in response to an additive that was shown to be an immediate danger, then I would say that the Board of Health is doing it's job in protecting the public from threats in the food chain.  In the case of transfats, though, the effects are cumulative over considerable time and can be mitigated simply by not overconsuming the products that contain them.  I would have preferred a less heavy-handed approach.

36 posted on 07/20/2007 2:42:53 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
I really don't give a fig about trans-fat. Unless you've got some weird stuff in your pantry, you'd be hard pressed to find anything that contains the stuff nowadays, so unless you eat out on a regular basis, you're not consuming a whole lot of the stuff, and even then I doubt that most food establishments use the stuff nowadays.

Instead, can we ID where the fish and meat served in restaurants comes from? There's certainly more of a risk from from banned antibiotics and polluted growing environments in those puppies.

I prefer not to pay $20 - $40 for an entree that hails from the filth of the Yangtze River, or the halls of Montezuma's revenge.

37 posted on 07/20/2007 2:44:09 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Shots
Hummmmm have you read a label on a bottle classic coke or Pepsi lately? I did not think so Coke reds High Fructose Corn Syrup and/or Sucrose, Water, Caramel Color, Phosphoric Acid, Natural Flavors, Caffeine.

Sorry, Shots. I could have saved you a lot of time if I had just said in my post that the make up of corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup are very different. They are two very different products that serve very different purposes.

Wanting either of them banned is looney tunes. The fact that people who don't know the difference want them banned is comical.

38 posted on 07/20/2007 2:44:29 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Stoat

I ain’t been there in a coons age...

Sauteed Prawns and Linguini...

To die for!!!


39 posted on 07/20/2007 2:44:33 PM PDT by djf (Bush's legacy: Way more worried about Iraqs borders than our own!!! A once great nation... sad...)
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To: swarthyguy

Have you seen how overweight your neighbors are? Could be they could stand a bit of calorie restriction.


40 posted on 07/20/2007 2:51:14 PM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex!)
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