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Stealth bombers to get bunker-nobbling weapons [GOOD NEWS]
The Register ^ | 07/20/07 | Lewis Page

Posted on 07/20/2007 1:55:05 PM PDT by Enchante

American stealth bombers will soon be equipped to drop the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP), the gigantic deep-bunker-blasting bomb currently being developed by the Yanks.

Northrop Grumman announced the relatively cheap $2.5m stealth-bomber refit contract yesterday. An undisclosed number of the US Air Force's 22 B-2 "Spirit" bombers will each be able to carry a brace of 15-tonne MOPs in around seven months' time.

The US Air Force says the B-2's stealth characteristics give it "the unique ability to penetrate an enemy's most sophisticated defenses and threaten his most valued, and heavily defended, targets".

The MOP mega-bomb, second heaviest conventional weapon ever built, is said to be able to drill through many metres of earth or concrete protection. Only 20 per cent of the weapon's weight is explosives; the rest is a hardened metal case. The idea is that the MOP will fall from high altitude and strike its target like a supersonic - or even hypersonic - spear, punching through to explode at the correct depth....

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Perhaps unsurprisingly, significant parts of the Natanz facilities are underground, buried beneath a few metres of concrete and perhaps 75 feet of earth. The MOP wouldn't have a problem with that, though

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: b2; iran; miltech; nuclear; wmd
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7 months away if this article might be accurate!!
1 posted on 07/20/2007 1:55:09 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: Enchante

Message for Osama, Message for Osama...............


2 posted on 07/20/2007 1:56:42 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Enchante

Bunker-nobbling??? WTH is that?


3 posted on 07/20/2007 1:57:19 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Enchante

Not familiar with that headline word “nobbling” but apparently it means to “disable”..... my those Brits have some funny words! :^)

[America and Britain, two countries separated by a common language......]


4 posted on 07/20/2007 1:58:26 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Abathar

“Bunker-nobbling??? WTH is that?”

I’ll refer you to the story about Hillary’s cleavage and let you make your own conclusions.


5 posted on 07/20/2007 1:59:25 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: Enchante

This means we already have it online.


6 posted on 07/20/2007 1:59:56 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Enchante

Drop some MOP’s... on the ‘MOOPS’...


7 posted on 07/20/2007 2:00:15 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Resolute Conservative
"This means we already have it online"

Oh, goodie!! I was hoping that might be the case....
8 posted on 07/20/2007 2:00:51 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Enchante

give it “the unique ability to penetrate an enemy’s most sophisticated defenses and threaten his most valued, and heavily defended, targets”...

OK Iran, we’re ready now. Bring it on.


9 posted on 07/20/2007 2:01:48 PM PDT by generalhammond
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To: Enchante
“Perhaps unsurprisingly, significant parts of the Natanz facilities are underground, buried beneath a few metres of concrete and perhaps 75 feet of earth. The MOP wouldn’t have a problem with that, though”

Of course it depends on the construction of the bunker, but 75 feet is well within reach of a current 5000 pound bunker buster.

10 posted on 07/20/2007 2:02:02 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Enchante

Big BLU is the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP).


11 posted on 07/20/2007 2:02:09 PM PDT by ricks_place
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To: ricks_place

You deliver?


12 posted on 07/20/2007 2:09:14 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (In the Rise and Fall of United States I hope the Fall part is more than one chapter.)
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To: Enchante

The article also mentioned the bomb would fall from a high altitude and obtain supersonic, even hypersonic, speed. Not sure how that could happen from a fall.

Not a very well written article.


13 posted on 07/20/2007 2:17:54 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: Enchante
Northrop Grumman announced the relatively cheap $2.5m stealth-bomber refit contract yesterday.

Presumeably, this covers the cost of the "MOP-Capable" decals affixed somewhere on the nose of the aircraft.

An undisclosed number of the US Air Force's 22 B-2 "Spirit" bombers will each be able to carry a brace of 15-tonne MOPs in around seven months' time.

What is "a brace"? Is it 2, 3, 4, 10? I can't imagine it being more than 3, at 15 tons, unless "tonnes" weigh a bunch less (and just the word looks heavier).

14 posted on 07/20/2007 2:21:13 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: AnAmericanMother; HairOfTheDog; aculeus; Constitution Day; Xenalyte

Pinging horsey set and language set to the headline.


15 posted on 07/20/2007 2:24:56 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Enchante
American stealth bombers will soon be equipped to drop the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP), the gigantic deep-bunker-blasting bomb currently being developed by the Yanks.

OK, let's see if we can figure out what "MOP" really means. Everyone knows that "MOAB" means "Mother of all bombs," which makes fun of ex-Saddam Hussein's "Mother of all battles" boast. Of course, some tight-arsed bureaucrat type said, "You can't call it that, it has to have some official-sounding name, like "Massive ordnance air burst."

So, what's "MOP?" Me, I vote for "Master of Pain." What say the rest of you?

16 posted on 07/20/2007 2:26:05 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Abathar
>Bunker-nobbling??? WTH

Lindsay sez give her
a call. She'll explain to you
what's bunker-nobbling!

17 posted on 07/20/2007 2:27:26 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: dighton
British Slang, Lower Class & Underworld, 19th century

Nobble = inflict grievous bodily harm

18 posted on 07/20/2007 2:29:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Enchante

Where there’s a mess, there’s a MOP.


19 posted on 07/20/2007 2:30:17 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: Ancesthntr

re: “brace”

Yeah, I think the author is more than a bit careless about the “brace” (which connotes several, if I’m not mistaken) — at 15 tons, I would think only ONE of these babies would be carried by each B-2, but if the whole B-2 squadron can be equipped with it then that’s still a major major force.


20 posted on 07/20/2007 2:30:19 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Ancesthntr

How about “Makes Osama Pee”?


21 posted on 07/20/2007 2:31:25 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Ancesthntr

According to another article, each bomber could carry two MOPs.


22 posted on 07/20/2007 2:32:47 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Enchante
Perhaps unsurprisingly, significant parts of the Natanz facilities are underground, buried beneath a few metres of concrete and perhaps 75 feet of earth.

I can think of a number ME locations with underground facilities. Looks like Bush and Cheney are preparing for somethin' before they leave office. ;o)

23 posted on 07/20/2007 2:33:41 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: MediaMole; All
>MOP

... The latest of these weapons is the MOP — short for Massive Ordnance Penetrator — built by Boeing's Advanced Systems unit in St. Louis. The 20-foot-long bomb that weighs 30,000 pounds ...
24 posted on 07/20/2007 2:35:19 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Abathar
nob·ble (nŏb'əl) tr.v. Chiefly British., -bled, -bling, -bles. To disable (a racehorse), especially by drugging. To win (a person) over. To outdo or get the better of by devious means. To filch or steal. To kidnap.
25 posted on 07/20/2007 2:37:08 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: Enchante

‘my those Brits have some funny words! :^)’

We have all the same ones as you, plus about another 50,000. The difference is, we use them all! ;)


26 posted on 07/20/2007 2:40:22 PM PDT by britemp
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To: Ancesthntr

brace = 2, as in “brace of pistols.” Very English english, that.


27 posted on 07/20/2007 2:41:51 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: Enchante

All that technology and that’s the biggest they can come up with? :)

Much prefer this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_bomb

The only problem with it was it was too heavy for the B17 or the B29, only the Lancaster was man enough to carry it! :)


28 posted on 07/20/2007 2:45:34 PM PDT by britemp
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To: britemp

I use the cliff’s notes version of english...well, the first chapter of it at least.


29 posted on 07/20/2007 2:47:52 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Those that can do, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't do either, run for office)
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To: britemp

I do always enjoy finding English words and expressions that are not used in America. We do have quite a few unique expressions on this side of the pond, too. I recall that even Sherlock Holmes was quite taken with American slang in one of his stories, I think it was “The Adventure of the Dancing Men”......

Then there’s this dictionary of 19,000 terms of American slang:

Book Description
Originally published in 1960, The Dictionary of American Slang is widely regarded as the standard in its field. Expanded and completely updated, this third edition contains more than 19,000 terms of representing the variety and vigor of American slang, from the most widely acceptable to the taboo, and covering all periods of American history — from the gypsies, soldiers, railroad workers and cowboys of the 19th century to more modern spawning grounds such as the rock ‘n’ roll world, the corporate sector, African-Americans, gays and lesbians and many more.

Intimately connected with the fringes of our culture and responding with vigilance to new developments in technology, slang is the fastest changing part of our language. This new edition considers the subcultures that have emerged in the wake of the past decade’s technological and communication advances, including the advent of computer usage at home and in the workplace and the explosion of the Internet and the World Wide Web. With more than 2,000 new terms, the Lexicon of the ‘90s is recorded here in definitive detail.

http://www.amazon.com/Dictionary-American-Slang-Robert-Chapman/dp/006270107X


30 posted on 07/20/2007 2:49:17 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Enchante

Completion of the retrofit maybe 7 months away, however the bunker buster has been around for sometime now. For those that are interested the body of the bunker buster is old eight-inch artillery barrels packed with explosive compounds. The tube itself is fitted with a hardened nose cone, stabilization wings and rear end piece with instrumentation. This was on the History Channel.


31 posted on 07/20/2007 2:51:50 PM PDT by Rogle
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To: Abathar
Bunker-nobbling??? WTH is that?

Sounds racist.

32 posted on 07/20/2007 2:52:05 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Enchante

The idea is that the MOP will fall from high altitude and strike its target like a supersonic - or even hypersonic - spear, punching through to explode at the correct depth....

Google “Hypersonic Tungsten Telephone Pole” sometime just for fun, and do some reading...fascinating concept!


33 posted on 07/20/2007 2:58:58 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts...)
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To: dighton; AnAmericanMother; HairOfTheDog; aculeus; Constitution Day; Xenalyte
Pinging horsey set and language set to the headline.

1. Nobbling oblige?

2. Also noteworthy in the linked article: An undisclosed number of the US Air Force's 22 B-2 "Spirit" bombers will each be able to carry a brace of 15-tonne MOPs in around seven months' time.

As in ... I jumped out and came as near running as I durst, with a big silk handkerchief under my hat for coolness' sake and a brace of pistols ready primed for ... Stevenson.

Or ...There are purists who maintain a gentleman should use a brace of pistols, one for each temple. .... Nabokov, on a proper suicide, in Pale Fire.

34 posted on 07/20/2007 3:06:13 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Enchante

A MOP for the ROP !!!


35 posted on 07/20/2007 3:13:43 PM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: BuffaloJack

That’s great!! Or how about this, it’s even more succinct:

MOP the ROP!!!!

[hat tip to you for the idea]


36 posted on 07/20/2007 3:17:13 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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To: Enchante

B1’s carry them now.


37 posted on 07/20/2007 3:21:48 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Enchante

Interesting, though several of the examples given are also British slang. Cats Pajamas (pyjama’ here) is part of a series of slang terms for something which is considered the best of it’s type. Other examples include the Bee’s Knee’s, the Mutt’s Nut’s and the Dog’s Bollocks! The latter is often abreviated down to ‘Dog’s’, for example - “Kev’s new motor is the dogs!” :)


38 posted on 07/20/2007 3:24:28 PM PDT by britemp
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To: britemp

One of my favorite bits of British slang is “I had one once, but the wheels fell off!”, which seems to translate to “I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.”


39 posted on 07/20/2007 3:29:38 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ops33
The article also mentioned the bomb would fall from a high altitude and obtain supersonic, even hypersonic, speed. Not sure how that could happen from a fall.

Dropped from the Space Shuttle.

40 posted on 07/20/2007 3:34:33 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: tacticalogic

Can we test these first (unannounced) on the UN buildings to be really, really sure they work perfectly?


41 posted on 07/20/2007 3:38:54 PM PDT by paulweir
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To: johnny7

HAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Beautiful stealth Seinfeld reference!

“Oh no, I’m sorry it was the MOOPS.”


42 posted on 07/20/2007 3:43:54 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: ops33

“Not sure how that could happen from a fall.”

Gravitational acceleration.


43 posted on 07/20/2007 3:54:22 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Abathar
Bunker-nobbling??? WTH is that?

It's what consenting adults do when confronted with bunk beds...

44 posted on 07/20/2007 3:57:01 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: Red6
Of course it depends on the construction of the bunker, but 75 feet is well within reach of a current 5000 pound bunker buster.

Yep. We probably lied about other details too...

45 posted on 07/20/2007 3:58:14 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: ops33
The article also mentioned the bomb would fall from a high altitude and obtain supersonic, even hypersonic, speed. Not sure how that could happen from a fall.

Nuke 'em from orbit, it's the only way to be sure...

46 posted on 07/20/2007 3:59:32 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: steve86

“Dropped from the Space Shuttle.”

You can’t drop something from orbit — you’re already falling.


47 posted on 07/20/2007 4:00:26 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Ancesthntr
So, what's "MOP?" Me, I vote for "Master of Pain." What say the rest of you?

Make Osama Pee?

48 posted on 07/20/2007 4:01:21 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: cartoonistx

Darn you!


49 posted on 07/20/2007 4:01:56 PM PDT by null and void (We are a Nation of Laws... IGNORED Laws...)
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To: null and void

MOP = “Makes OBama Pee”

The ‘RAT weasels will go crazy if/when we finally take out Iran....


50 posted on 07/20/2007 4:03:54 PM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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