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To: Sherman Logan

Basic disagreement. Until humans are perfectly good, no government composed of humans can be perfectly good.

You've injected the "perfect" qualifier. Not even God is perfect. Uh Oh! Now I've done it. LOL! There can be a good government despite some people being not good. They just can't be employed by the government.

Do you think we should all give up trying to make good government because it's impossible for humans to be perfect? Opps, you suggested perfectly good government, not the attainable, good government..

Ask a person when they want the government to initiate force against them and their property and do the same to their loved ones. I think the vast majority of people would say never. Ask those persons if a government that never initiated force against them would be good government and I think the vast majority would say that that is good government.

Ahh, but here's were some people are hypocrites. They want, under the color of law, force initiated against other people 

79 posted on 07/20/2007 11:37:40 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Zon

I’m not sure why it is that people today have such a hard time understanding the Founders’ concept of self-government and self-control. A government doesn’t have to be “perfect” to respect individual rights, for instance. It’s a matter of focus. The government can control everything we do, or the government can allow us our God-given, inalienable rights. If we’ve allowed ourselves to become so wicked that the government has to control everything we do to “protect” us from ourselves, then we no longer are a free people. A truly free people are a moral people.


80 posted on 07/20/2007 11:56:20 PM PDT by Nan48
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