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Al-Qaeda faces rebellion from the ranks
TIMESONLINE ^ | 23 Jul 07 | Deborah Haynes

Posted on 07/22/2007 7:44:51 PM PDT by elhombrelibre

Sickened by the group’s barbarity, Iraqi insurgents are giving information to coalition forces

Fed up with being part of a group that cuts off a person’s face with piano wire to teach others a lesson, dozens of low-level members of al-Qaeda in Iraq are daring to become informants for the US military in a hostile Baghdad neighbourhood.

The ground-breaking move in Doura is part of a wider trend that has started in other al-Qaeda hotspots across the country and in which Sunni insurgent groups and tribal sheikhs have stood together with the coalition against the extremist movement.

“They are turning. We are talking to people who we believe have worked for al-Qaeda in Iraq and want to reconcile and have peace,” said Colonel Ricky Gibbs, commander of the 4th Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, which oversees the area.

The sewage-filled streets of Doura, a Sunni Arab enclave in south Baghdad, provide an ugly setting for what US commanders say is al-Qaeda’s last stronghold in the city. The secretive group, however, appears to be losing its grip as a “surge” of US troops in the neighbourhood – part of the latest effort by President Bush to end the chaos in Iraq – has resulted in scores of fighters being killed, captured or forced to flee.

A key factor is that local people and members of al-Qaeda itself have become sickened by the violence and are starting to rebel, Lieutenant-Colonel Michael said. “The people have got to deny them sanctuary and that is exactly what is happening.”

Al-Qaeda informants comprise largely members of the Doura network who found themselves either working with the group after the US-led invasion in March 2003, or signed up to earn extra cash because there were no other jobs going. Disgusted at the attacks and intimidation techniques used on friends, neighbours and even relatives, they are now increasingly looking for a way out, US officers say.

“It is only after al-Qaeda has become truly barbaric and done things like, to teach lessons to people, cut their face off with piano wire in front of their family and then murdered everybody except one child who told the tale afterwards . . . that people realise how much of a mess they are in,” Lieutenant James Danly, 31, who works on military intelligence in Doura, said.

It is impossible to corroborate the claims, but he said that scores of junior al-Qaeda in Iraq members there had become informants since May, including one low-level cell leader who gave vital information after his arrest.

“He gave us dates, places and names and who did what,” Lieutenant Danly said. When asked why he was being so forthcoming, the man said: “Because I am sick of it and I hate them, and I am done.”

Working with insurgents – even those who claim to have switched sides – is a leap of faith for both sides. involved. Every informant who visits Forward Operating Base Falcon, a vast military camp on the southern outskirts of Baghdad, is blindfolded when brought in and out to avoid gleaning any information about his surroundings.

The risk sometimes pays off. A recent tip-off led to the fatal shooting of Abu Kaldoun, one of three senior al-Qaeda leaders in Doura, during a US raid last week. “He was turned in by one of his own,” Colonel Michael said.

Progress with making contacts and gathering actionable information is slow because al-Qaeda has persuasive methods of keeping people quiet. This month it beheaded two men in the street and pinned a note on to their corpses giving warning that anyone who cooperated with US troops would meet the same fate.

The increased presence of US forces in Doura, however, is encouraging insiders to overcome their fear and divulge what they know. Convoys of US soldiers are working the rubble-strewn streets day and night, knocking on doors, speaking to locals and following up leads on possible insurgent hideouts.

“People in al-Qaeda come to us and give us information,” said Lieutenant Scott Flanigan, as he drove past a line of fruit and vegetable stalls near a shabby shopping street in Doura, where people were buying bread and other groceries.

The informants were not seeking an amnesty for crimes that they had committed. “They just do not want to be killed,” Lieutenant Flanigan said.

Jordanian-born Abu Musab al-Zarqawi – who was killed in a US raid last year – established the Iraqi al-Qaeda network in 2004, but opinions differ on its compilation, size and capabilities. Some military experts believe that the group is a cell-based network of chapters who are loosely linked to an overall leader by go-between operatives.

Others, however, describe al-Qaeda in Iraq as a sort of franchise, with separate cells around the country that use the brand – made infamous by Osama bin Laden – and cultural ideology but do not work closely with each other or for one overriding leader.

Despite the uncertainties one thing seems guaranteed. A hardcore of people calling themselves al-Qaeda in Iraq remains devoted to the extremist cause and is determined to fight on whatever the cost.


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedainiraq; iraq
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1 posted on 07/22/2007 7:44:52 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 07/22/2007 7:45:38 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: elhombrelibre
Harry Reid must be upset.


3 posted on 07/22/2007 7:50:00 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Ah, true true, and some of our own as well.


4 posted on 07/22/2007 7:50:59 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: Man50D

he’ll still be whining the surge is a failure...


5 posted on 07/22/2007 7:54:10 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

Reid fears its success.


6 posted on 07/22/2007 7:55:05 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Ping.


7 posted on 07/22/2007 7:55:25 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: elhombrelibre
Al-Qaeda faces rebellion from the ranks

Overheard conversation: "Hey, why are all the bomb belts made in teen sizes? What, they don't they make any for adults?"

8 posted on 07/22/2007 7:56:00 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan

When I was in Iraq, there was a particularly disparaging remark for the “insurgents” leaders; they were the 40 inch belt ones. They were not exactly lean and mean.


9 posted on 07/22/2007 7:58:26 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: elhombrelibre
Our victory in Iraq is drawing nearer and nearer in each passing hour.

God bless our brave troops and President Bush.

10 posted on 07/22/2007 7:58:36 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: jveritas

If we can only keep it up without the Liberals coming to the rescue of al Qaeda, we’ll completely destroy al Qaeda and al Qods.


11 posted on 07/22/2007 8:02:53 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: elhombrelibre; jveritas

BUMP!


12 posted on 07/22/2007 8:04:42 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: elhombrelibre
A hardcore of people calling themselves al-Qaeda in Iraq remains devoted to the extremist cause and is determined to fight on whatever the cost.

The "cost" is their death.

13 posted on 07/22/2007 8:08:57 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: elhombrelibre
Al-Qaeda faces rebellion from the ranks

Al-Qaede has Democrats?

14 posted on 07/22/2007 8:10:58 PM PDT by Barnacle (The Emperor has no clothes.)
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To: elhombrelibre; jazusamo

Trust me the traitors are not going to have their way and prevent us from achieving complete victory. They will keep trying but they are going to fail as they did fail many times before.


15 posted on 07/22/2007 8:12:02 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: elhombrelibre

My son and the Stryker platoon he commands work this neighborhood. It’s ugly; the Wild West. Worst neighborhood in Baghdad.

I’d appreciate more FReeper prayers for them.


16 posted on 07/22/2007 8:14:11 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
I’d appreciate more FReeper prayers for them.

More on the way.

17 posted on 07/22/2007 8:20:50 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: RightOnline

God Bless your son, and all of the Stryker Soldiers!


18 posted on 07/22/2007 8:26:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: jveritas

lol...your grasp of the real world on-the-ground picture is completely limited to articles such as these. Composition of IA forces in the neighborhood, our countermeasures for the AIF, the local infrastructure’s complete devastation, and the makeup of the unit that will take over the battlespace when we leave (and the subsequent AIF strategy involving that changeover) are nowhere to be found in this article. There is far more going on in Dora than this article states. It’s calm right now (thanks to my Battalion, and my Battalion alone—and, no, I’m not exaggerating that), but that doesn’t mean it’s safe. It’s gonna get really, really ugly when we leave. Too bad, but as long as my Soldiers survive it, I’ll call it a success.


19 posted on 07/22/2007 8:34:17 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Mosul, Baghdad, Karbala, Najaf, Sadr City...'round and 'round we go...)
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To: elhombrelibre
I dunno folks.

Seems to me like what's going on here is that the "insurgents" (terrorists by their real description) are saying that as long as they were killing infidels, everything was just peachy, but AlQ is killing a few too many muslims.

Don't trust it. As soon as AlQ goes back to killing infidel Americans, these people will turn into raving fanatics again.

20 posted on 07/22/2007 8:36:59 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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