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1 posted on 07/23/2007 10:48:45 AM PDT by AuntB
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2 posted on 07/23/2007 10:49:21 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: AuntB

BTTT


3 posted on 07/23/2007 10:55:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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It is Bush’s greatest failing. It’s nearly 6 years since the attacks, and he still refuses to address it. If/when we are attacked again, I have no doubt it’ll be shown the attackers have come over the borders (we already know they have). And at that time, if he is still in office, he will be impeached.


4 posted on 07/23/2007 10:57:09 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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Very well written, and all true!!


9 posted on 07/23/2007 11:07:03 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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I still support GWB because there is on one else to support right now. But the border mess has really changed my opinion of of the man. Right now he couldn’t get my vote for dog catcher. It will take years to recover from 20 thousand illegals sucking money out of our country. We are all paying the price for the ineptitude of several past presidents including GWB.
11 posted on 07/23/2007 11:09:02 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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He won’t even take responsibility. In the past 6 years the invasion of our country has escalated beyond belief. He is not only to blame, he has also aided and abetted this illegal invasion.


12 posted on 07/23/2007 11:10:49 AM PDT by dragnet2
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Let’s start the impeachment. We either believe it or we are just like those that betray us for whatever excuses they give.


20 posted on 07/23/2007 11:19:51 AM PDT by Scythian
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"President Bush... put up that wall!"

22 posted on 07/23/2007 11:22:11 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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Hey, I will grant that Bush probably hasn't done enough to secure the southern border.

I ALSO want for the border hawks who use this forum as a constant platform to preach their hatred for Bush to get through their minds that he also hasn't done nothing about the border and the Democrat party operatives would've done much much less about the border than even Bush.

Turning all of politics into one issue and helping a party go to HELL because its failure to have a 100% success rate is insane.

This is what we want the liberals to do to the DEMOCRATS, dammit.

JMO.

26 posted on 07/23/2007 11:24:14 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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What an outrageous foolish hatefest.

Thank you President Bush for your excellent work as a public servant.

Once this crowd has permanent established the Democratic party as the only ruling party in America, maybe they will come to their senses.

It will be difficult to rally the conservative base from jail cells though.

Border bots are opposed to border enforcement. We saw that in their defeat of the most recent immigation bill.


28 posted on 07/23/2007 11:26:23 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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As chief of the Executive Branch he has under the Constitution not only the sole power but the duty to enforce the laws of our country, a duty he refuses to honor. He thumbs his nose at the obligations imposed on him by the Constitution, which, in the name of the God he claims to worship, he has sworn to uphold.

Correct and inexcusable

29 posted on 07/23/2007 11:26:59 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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But in one respect Mr. Bush has carved out a place that is unique among corrupt politicians. In his obsession to pass his amnesty, a major tool in the permanent elimination of our borders, he offered what amounted to a bribe, in public, to members of the US Senate, telling them that if they would vote for his amnesty bill he would provide 4.5 billion dollars to build the border fence that a 2005 federal law he signed required to be built.

Good grief...for people who claim knowledge of the Constitution this is a situation where they look foolish. Surely they know that Bush does not "appropriate funds", Congress does.

June 15, 2007 - WASHINGTON – House Democrats voted down legislation offered by Congressman Jerry Lewis Friday to require full funding for 854 miles of double fencing and other security measures that were mandated in the Secure Fence Act passed by Congress last year. Lewis criticized the vote as undermining efforts to provide real security to the nation’s Southern border.

Congressman Jerry Lewis

WASHINGTON, Jan. 17 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) has provided an early indication that the new Democratic congressional leadership is prepared to abandon all pretense of enforcing U.S. immigration laws and our borders, warns the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). In a statement Tuesday, Hoyer declared that construction of the 700-mile security fence approved by Congress last fall is unlikely to receive the funding necessary to move forward. Instead, Hoyer vaguely referred to "other ways" that Congress would look into dealing with illegal immigration and securing the nation against terrorist infiltration.

Past statements by the Democratic leadership indicate that their approach to dealing with illegal immigration would include another massive illegal alien amnesty program and another set of vague promises to enforce immigration laws in the future. Democrats, who have repeatedly excoriated the Bush administration for its failure to bring America's borders under control and for failing to take necessary steps to secure the nation against future terrorist attacks, now appear prepared to scuttle the one real initiative that has been put forth to end the dangerous and chaotic situation that exists along the southern border.

Democrats Indicate That They Are Ready to Backtrack on Border Fence, Warns FAIR

And puhleeeeze don't anyone say he could do it if he wanted...or it's back to Civics 101 for you. And yes, what y'all call the amnesty bill was a farce, but the fence issue is being held up by the Dems, Bush signed the bill approving the fence and also gave Chertoff permission to waive environmental regulations that were also holding it up. Yes,...let's DO put the blame where it belongs...on Congress.

34 posted on 07/23/2007 11:39:56 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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It is useless to speculate about “why” he permits these crimes.

I don't doubt that Bush believes he has saved more American lives when the overall economic impact of illegal immigration is taken into account than the few thousand which have been lost because of criminal action by illegals. No doubt that he believes he has helped stave off a Communist revolution in Mexico that might have killed millions. No doubt that he believes he is denying Hugo Chavez (and by extension, China) an expanded role in the Western Hemisphere.

But since he seems to have decided he can't comment publicly on these aspects of the issue - particularly on the way illegals are propping up our house-of-cards economy at the moment - he has apparently decided to take the short-term political hit in the hope that history will prove him right, much as he did to shield Putin from the repurcussions of Putin's decision to help Iraq move its WMD's to Syria before the war.

Bush isn't a villain - but he's too much of an "ends justify the means" guy to be a hero, either.

36 posted on 07/23/2007 11:52:50 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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For five years, members of 9/11 Families for a Secure America have lobbied in Washington and in many state capitols for immigration law enforcement and secure borders.

Bush and Fox meet in either Feb. or March of '01 to discuss immigration-we all know what that means. If after 9-11 and he didn't shut the borders down, he never will. The blueprint has been laid out and they will not stop it's progress. Only we can fight against that tide.

here's a bit from it.

The bilateral migration talks were initially announced at the Presidents’ first meeting in February 2001, and they were more formally reviewed in early September 2001. At that time, the Presidents instructed the cabinet-level working group “to reach mutually satisfactory results on border safety, a temporary worker program and the status of undocumented Mexicans in the United States . . . as soon as possible.”

40 posted on 07/23/2007 12:08:08 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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I am at the point where I can’t even stand looking at the guy on tv anymore and I voted for him twice. How he can gamble another 911 is beyond comprehension.


46 posted on 07/23/2007 12:13:17 PM PDT by Buffettfan (3rd Battalion, 6th Marines - 1971 - 1974)
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What a giant pants load! A few points for this moron;

1) Most illegals were here before GWB took office. 8.4 million in 2000.

2) GWB’s position was always comprehensive reform. He was elected President with that position. Bitching about his beliefs now is more than a little lame. Seems like this guy would prefer a flip-flopper to a man that tells the truth.

3) After 9/11, GWB had more important things to do than chase down Mexicans.

4) GWB has stepped up enforcement, the number of BP, and the amount of barriers. Border crossings were down last year. That is more than anyone since Eisenhower (with Operation Wetback) has done.

5) In 2004, 1.4 million law enforcement officers effected 14 million arrests. You do the math on how many it would take to get 12-20 million illegals off the street even if the cities and states would cooperate.

6) If illegals commit a violent crime, they are still subject to arrest and conviction. What has illegal got to do with it? We’ve had a war on drugs for forty years....is it GWB’s fault everytime someone OD’s?

7) Violent crime is down, employment is up, the economy is booming. We have not had a terror attack since 9/11. Where is the damage to this country other than in this guy’s own mind.

For all the border rhetoric I have seen the last two years, NOTHING has been accomplished but putting Dems back in power. We won’t even be able to identify illegals till at least 2009 now. That’s really good for security, isn’t it?

This guy hurts conservatives with reckless crap like this.


63 posted on 07/23/2007 12:30:12 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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If we are putting blame where blame is due, it’s all of our fault. We have sat by and let it get to this point just as much as our legislators. I know people are going to line up saying they have been concerned about it for a long time, but be honest with yourselves, because you know that the vast majority of us haven’t made this a high priority and taken real action on it until recently.


64 posted on 07/23/2007 12:31:14 PM PDT by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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It’s the ‘big picture’ — the NAU, and nothing must get in the way of that.


79 posted on 07/23/2007 1:17:51 PM PDT by hershey
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Border ping!


95 posted on 07/23/2007 2:30:08 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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bttt


97 posted on 07/23/2007 2:33:32 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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