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Pope: Creation vs. evolution clash an ‘absurdity’
MSNBC ^ | 7/24/2007

Posted on 07/25/2007 12:57:22 PM PDT by mngran

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To: Resolute Conservative
Either the whole Bible is to be taken literally or none of it is.

You need a lot a interpretation room to get around the self-contradictory nature of the bible. So that leaves us with none.

21 posted on 07/25/2007 1:15:34 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: ZULU
the Evolutionary radicals think Darwin is a religious prophet.

Does that include the atheists who accept evolution? Or are you just parroting the anti-science people who think that by labeling science a religion it somehow makes their religion valid?

22 posted on 07/25/2007 1:16:33 PM PDT by narby
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To: mngran

Perhaps you need to actually read what B16 said instead of believing what MSNBC SAID he said.

Cause if you are sure that the Pope said that your church wasn’t “real”, my FRiend you are taking the word of the MSM.


23 posted on 07/25/2007 1:16:36 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
“Either the whole Bible is to be taken literally or none of it is.”

Parts of the bible are someone recollections of visions and dreams. There are parts that are by design subject to interpretation.

24 posted on 07/25/2007 1:18:26 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Dinsdale

Popcorn bump for later.


25 posted on 07/25/2007 1:18:42 PM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: narby

“He doesn’t want to give people who understand science a reason to reject faith. Smart guy.”

There are many people who disbelieve evolution because of science.


26 posted on 07/25/2007 1:19:08 PM PDT by bigcat32
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To: Marie2
See why I’m not a Catholic? He just denied Scripture.

No, no, no... He didn't deny Scripture, he defined Scripture for all us common, fallible, unwashed, unholy laypeople.

27 posted on 07/25/2007 1:19:47 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: netmilsmom
"Oh, THAT’S never gonna happen!!!!"

I just remember how indignant mngran got when the Pope cited the historical fact that Christ founded ONE church through Peter. It is interesting how so many can recite scripture without ever attempting to understand it.

28 posted on 07/25/2007 1:20:25 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: mngran

I wonder how he thinks God performed all those other miracles in the Bible. For example, is Jesus still yet to be raised from the dead after a long evolutionary process? How did God create life from death in that instance?


29 posted on 07/25/2007 1:20:29 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Dinsdale
You need a lot a interpretation room to get around the self-contradictory nature of the bible.

Yes. Such as the *two* different creation stories in Genesis. Once you loosen your standards to interpret the two as being two interpretations of the same creation, then you've relaxed your standards enough to shove in the Big Bang and evolution. But of course, many can't see that forest for the trees.

30 posted on 07/25/2007 1:21:12 PM PDT by narby
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“Parts of the bible are someone recollections of visions and dreams. There are parts that are by design subject to interpretation.”

Amen to that!


31 posted on 07/25/2007 1:22:19 PM PDT by dellbabe68
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To: mngran

Wow, does your anti-Catholicism has your underwear bunched up today. Must be giving you a giant wedgie from the looks of your biased rant.

If you are really interested in learning what Pope Benedict has been saying, and not the clips the left wing news media has been printing, then I suggest you spend a few minutes and read the actual documents. They are not that long, and you might realize that Benedict is not some nut case.

I pray for the day when the Roman Catholic Church is re-united with the Orthodox churches and then with most of the Protestant denominations.

We do all believe in Jesus Christ, do we not?


32 posted on 07/25/2007 1:22:29 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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Benedict also said the human race must listen to “the voice of the Earth”

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA...

Just when I thought I'd heard it all.

33 posted on 07/25/2007 1:22:57 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: edcoil

John Wayne once said in character, “Pretty bold talk for a one-eyes fat man” :)

The problem lies is he qualified to make that interpretation, for myself I say absolutely not.


34 posted on 07/25/2007 1:23:07 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: mngran
evolution can coexist with faith.

Yes, but atheism cannot exist with either intelligent design or the Bible.

35 posted on 07/25/2007 1:24:49 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Resolute Conservative

“The problem lies is he qualified to make that interpretation, for myself I say absolutely not.”

Why not? God made you in his image, he gave your brains to think, hands to build and a soul to understand.


36 posted on 07/25/2007 1:24:58 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: mngran

Augustine supposedly postulated that God put in place processes that led to the existence of all the animals, not the animals themselves. Not out of the bounds of Christian thinking, imo. That said, natural selection, Darwinism, as the driver of evolution itself is weakly supported. It’s just an assertion when you come to the big changes in creatures, not at all proven that dogs become horses, or rodents elephants, or however they claim it happens. The “missing links” are still missing and the structures in bodies seem too complex to be randomly generated, they require tens of inter-related structures to operate at all and all would have to develop at once to have a positive impact on survival. Scientists are missing too many pieces of the puzzle to worry much about it theologically, imo.


37 posted on 07/25/2007 1:25:49 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Resolute Conservative
Either the whole Bible is to be taken literally or none of it is.

So God literally didn't know where Adam and Eve were when they "hid" themselves in the garden?

38 posted on 07/25/2007 1:26:08 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: Resolute Conservative

Yeah, the pope is a doofus. What does he know about the Bible?


39 posted on 07/25/2007 1:26:12 PM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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To: Natural Law; mngran
I just remember how indignant mngran got

Here's the courtesy ping you forgot, NL.

40 posted on 07/25/2007 1:27:02 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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