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New revelations!: The Case Against the Haditha Defendants is Coming Unglued
Defend Our Marines ^ | July 25, 2007 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 07/25/2007 6:09:15 PM PDT by RedRover

The prosecution’s criminal case against LCpl Stephen Tatum and six other Marines in various stages of judicial process took another nose dive today. Charges that Chessani and his officers failed to adequately investigate or report the circumstances of the ambush at Haditha to higher headquarters were blasted apart by confirmation that a U.S. Air Force RQ-1 Predator was on station above Haditha for more than five hours on November 19, 2005.

Both Chessani and higher headquarters at least at both regiment and division level were watching it do its thing on big screens, an officer revealed. The Predator’s amazing capabilities provide opportunity for anyone in the National Command Authority to watch the fight in real time if they wanted to.

“We had Scan Eagle from about 0830 until 1700. Predator joined in from about 1030-1400 or so. Scan Eagle was used to maintain continuous PID [Positive Identification] on human targets as they fled from neighborhood to neighborhood. We used Predator's IR [Infra Red] camera to identify them within the palm grove (hotspots) where they were attempting to hide and to get the bombs on target. Both were used to guide helos and fixed wing air support on to the targets,” the officer explained.

At least one type of sophisticated UAV was over the battlefield all morning. In addition to 3/1’s organic Dragon Eye and ScanEagle following bands of insurgents move from hiding place to hiding place, theater commanders in Baghdad diverted an orbiting RQ-1 Predator medium altitude, high endurance UAV to watch as well. The super-secret aircraft is launched from Balad Air Base in Iraq and controlled by remote operators at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, the Air Force says. The Predator is operated by the Air Force for the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, and other highly classified intelligence authorities. It allows senior commanders at the Pentagon to see what is happening in real time as well as field commanders in Iraq.

An officer who was there said so many people were watching the fight go down that a faraway Public Affairs Officer wrote 3/1 to suggest it was time to “maximize the coalition coverage of this, pointing out to the locals that insurgents don't care about their children."

Chessani is charged with violating his orders for failing to inform higher headquarters of the situation at Haditha. On November 19 every Marine Corps senior headquarters in Iraq and the United States could watch events in Haditha go down in real time and living color thanks to Predator.

In the words of one expert, “They can run but they can’t hide [from Predator].”

Another blow fell when a spokesman for United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement said that if Naval Criminal Investigative Service special agents threatened Venezuelan native LCpl Humberto Mendoza with deportation if he didn’t cooperate they were at odds with current US law. Jack Zimmermann, the Texas attorney representing Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum suggested NCIS used the ploy to gain Mendoza’s testimony during his examination of the 23-year-old Marine.

A spokesman for ICE in Washington, D.C. said that NCIS could only make such a threat if Mendoza was already convicted of a serious crime. Current immigration law mandates violators must be convicted of a crime providing for “at least one year in jail or more” before it will initiate deportation proceedings, according to Pat Reilly, the Public Affairs Officer for ICE. She noted two exceptions to the law;

1.) If Mendoza lied about his citizenship status and fraudulently enlisted in the Marine Corps;

2.) If Mendoza had already been convicted of two or more crimes.

A spokesman for the Camp Pendleton Media Center said Mendoza’s citizenship status was a question for the Public Affairs Officer for the 1st Marine Division. As of this report the 1st MarDiv PAO has not returned phone calls. Presumably, however, given Mendoza’s unfettered testimony earlier this week he remains in good standing in the Marine Corps. Otherwise the prosecution would have to reveal his tarnished status to the defense.

On December 18, 2005, three days before three Marines from his squad were charged with murder Mendoza was granted immunity from prosecution in return for his cooperation. Despite previous testimony to the contrary Mendoza went from being part of a combat stack of Marines attacking a hostile objective to a lone Marine apparently wandering around in a smoke-filled house grenades had just been thrown into, he testified.

In his post-immunity version of events, Mendoza didn’t shoot anyone except a couple of fellows who must have deserved it. When he discovered innocent civilians huddled in a room behind a closed door he backed away, shutting the door behind him. Despite the early morning gloom stipulated by both sides, he could see the darkened, smoke-filled chamber was full of terrified women and children. Tatum did all the killing, he said.

Zimmermann subsequently suggested during his examination of Mendoza that the NCIS told Mendoza his citizenship was at stake if he didn’t cooperate. If they did it was a hollow threat. It would particularly be true if the NCIS special agents knew Mendoza was neither convicted of a crime or in violation of any citizenship statutes, one Missouri county prosecutor said. In most jurisdictions the court would call that type of behavior coercion, she said.

At Haditha, Mendoza was fighting alongside Tatum, Sharratt, Sgt. Francis Wolf, the late Miguel “T.J.” Terrazas, and Joe Haman, all who paid so dearly at Fallujah the year before. Marines who know the fighting caliber of these fighting Marines find it simply incredulous that a rookie Marine rifleman who had just shot two men in a firefight would even be capable to shutting down the way Mendoza claims he was able to.

Someday the truth will be available for everybody to see for themselves. The continuous video should be 8-10 hours, and includes the entire fight, one Marine said.

“[It]… finishes with the insurgent holding a child in order to avoid getting bombed again,” he added, “before we swarmed in to capture him.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; iraq; marines
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Nat Helms served three tours in Vietnam and, most recently, is the author of My Men Are My Heroes: The Brad Kasal Story (Meredith Books, 2007)

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Nat Helms is now confirming what he first reported here. There was a Predator in the sky above Haditha that morning, and the scale of the battle was known up and down the chain of command.

We'll also stay on this story about LCpl Mendoza. I'd hate to think that NCIS did something at odds with US law, wouldn't you? This should get very interesting so stay tuned!

1 posted on 07/25/2007 6:09:19 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover

AMEN


2 posted on 07/25/2007 6:09:57 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Satan is working both sides of the street in World Socialism and World Courts.)
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To: 4woodenboats; aculeus; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ...

3 posted on 07/25/2007 6:11:12 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
1.) If Mendoza lied about his citizenship status and fraudulently enlisted in the Marine Corps; 2.) If Mendoza had already been convicted of two or more crimes.

I'd like to place 20 down on #2 please.

4 posted on 07/25/2007 6:15:37 PM PDT by lilycicero (Nice title.)
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To: All
The Article 32 hearing for LCpl Stephen Tatum concluded today with closing statements. The case is now in the hands of the Investigating Officer. LtCol Paul Ware.

For more about the LCpl Humberto Mendoza testimony at the LCpl Tatum hearing, see this thread.

Marine Lance Cpl. Stephen B. Tatum, right, arrives with his civilian defense attorneys Jack Zimmerman, left, and Kyle Sampson, center, for his Article 32 Investigation Hearing at Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Base in San Diego County Monday, July 16, 2007. (AP Photo/Denis Poroy)

5 posted on 07/25/2007 6:16:16 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Great post!


6 posted on 07/25/2007 6:18:40 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover

Can murtha be prosecuted for making false alllegations?


7 posted on 07/25/2007 6:20:58 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: All
If you would like to help with the civilian lawyer’s legal fees for the
Haditha Marines you can do so by going to these sites.

Defend Our Marines

Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt

SSgt. Frank Wuterich

Lance Cpl. Stephen B. Tatum

Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani

Military Combat Defense Fund


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8 posted on 07/25/2007 6:23:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
Thanks for the ping. The truth of what went on continues to show the Marines did nothing more then carry out routine missions with no britches in the ROE.
The NCIS had better pay for this travesty big time.
9 posted on 07/25/2007 6:27:04 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Hunter in 2008)
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To: Lancey Howard
Mendoza went from being part of a combat stack of Marines attacking a hostile objective to a lone Marine apparently wandering around in a smoke-filled house...

Funny how a story can change when you think you'll be deported back to the land of Hugo Chavez!

10 posted on 07/25/2007 6:27:36 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; jan in Colorado
Someday the truth will be available for everybody to see for themselves. The continuous video should be 8-10 hours, and includes the entire fight, one Marine said. “[It]… finishes with the insurgent holding a child in order to avoid getting bombed again,” he added, “before we swarmed in to capture him.”

Lock Murtha in a cell and make him watch it over and over again...

11 posted on 07/25/2007 6:27:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: RedRover

Another good piece by Nat Helms.

I believe we’ll hear a lot more about LCpl Mendoza should any of these Marines go to court-martial and he testifies for the prosecution but we’ll hear it from defense attorneys.


12 posted on 07/25/2007 6:29:23 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

All of this makes me sick. It is hard enough, in the fog of battle and house to house fighting to distinguish civilian from combatant especially when the combatants shied themselves behind women and children.
If NCIS, or any other government agency, is somehow cooking the facts for the sake of politics, I say we are in deep shit.
I think I would be in jail today if we have video cameras and picture cell phones in Nam.
The PC war appears is impossible.


13 posted on 07/25/2007 6:35:59 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: jazusamo; All
Yes indeed.

There hasn't been any indication yet that the IO, LtCol Paul Ware, took Mendoza's testimony seriously. The recommendation in the LCpl Sharratt hearing took three weeks from the close of the hearing. We may not know until mid-August just what LtCol Ware thinks about all this. He did not go easy on NCIS and the prosecution in the Sharratt case and doubt he will here either.

BTW, for people trying to follow what happened in the LCpl Tatum case, here's a handy diagram...


14 posted on 07/25/2007 6:42:49 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
Excellent investigation to find the truth and another outstanding article by Nat Helms. So who are all these division level folks who knew this was a major engagement? Why did everybody try to act like the Haditha "incident" was an isolated event in these 4 houses? Why the silence from division level?

An officer who was there said so many people were watching the fight go down that a faraway Public Affairs Officer wrote 3/1 to suggest it was time to “maximize the coalition coverage of this, pointing out to the locals that insurgents don't care about their children."

Ummmmmmm.....has he been called to the witness stand in any of these hearings?
15 posted on 07/25/2007 6:47:18 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: freeangel
Only if there's a ruling that Murtha was acting outside his duties as a congressman. At the moment, Murtha is being protected by the Department of Justice. They denied a request by SSgt Wuterich's attorneys for a deposition. The decision is currently being appealed.

There have been cases of congressmen being sued. Sen. Proxmire, most famously.

An interesting wrinkle in the Murtha case is that he made all those false allegations from his campaign headquarters in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. That's part of the argument that Murtha was acting outside his role as a congressman.

I would think that it'd be clear enough that no elected representative has the right to falsely accuse citizens of being cold-blooded murderers. But President Bush's DOJ apparently thinks otherwise.

16 posted on 07/25/2007 6:53:41 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Why so long for this to come out?
I don’t want to go down the tinfoil hat road, but WTF?


17 posted on 07/25/2007 6:54:37 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; freema; lilycicero; smoothsailing
I don't know where, but I firmly recall Conlin stating that "in his opinion" that Chessani should have been out in the field instead of "looking at grainy images at the CP".

Seems we now have confirmation that they were anything but "grainy images" and gave him and the rest of his chain of command a far better tactical vision than could be had by radio riding around from hot-spot to hot-spot. And if everyone up to and including Mathis could have monitored real-time, and I'm sure watched replays -- WHY THE HELL ARE THESE MEN ON TRIAL? Winter and Walker both deserve to walk the plank.

18 posted on 07/25/2007 6:56:19 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Girlene
Could it be why Col. R. Gary Sokoloski, Gen Huck's aide, refused to testify in the Haditha hearings? He's certainly afraid to own up to something (while letting Marines down the chain be hung out to dry).
19 posted on 07/25/2007 6:58:04 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Regardless of what happens, and regardless of which version of the story is true, it’s a shame that Mendoza turned out to be a weasel. “Semper fidelis” obviously has no meaning for that scumbag. A real ‘stand up guy’, that Mendoza.


20 posted on 07/25/2007 7:05:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover

About time. We knew about the predator how soon after it happened? Sheesh. Excellent post Red.

Has anyone touched on the morgue angle yet?


21 posted on 07/25/2007 7:07:31 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Jane Doe and I carry. Dems hate Bush as much as they love terrorists. Thanks jackv)
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To: RedRover

Damn good news Red! Any reports from the closing statements today?


22 posted on 07/25/2007 7:09:40 PM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: freeangel

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200707/NAT20070713b.html

“Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood,” Murtha said, before calling for U.S. troops to be “redeployed” out of the country.

POS, and I don’t mean the ‘+’ post on a battery.

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Bush should pardon our Marines from this non-sense, and politicians better be prepared for ruthless bombing of enemy countries so no American Troops ever have to endure the Rep John Murtha (D-Pa.) types.


23 posted on 07/25/2007 7:10:07 PM PDT by Son House (>Every Democrat plan leaves Troops in Iraq, they need to answer for that.<)
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To: Lancey Howard
I actually feel some sympathy for Mendoza. I know he chose his own destruction as a Marine, but he never would have been put in that position without this prosecution.

The scuttlebutt is also that Mendoza has an illegal alien wife who was threatened with immediate deportation if he didn't play ball.

24 posted on 07/25/2007 7:12:28 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: brityank

It’s evident to me at this point in the hearings that much of what has come out in these hearings wasn’t turned over to the defense in a timely manner.

IMO it has been that some of the evidence was classified but should have been made available to the defense, some of the NCIS investigators were and are inept and/or biased and lastly the prosecution is guilty of misconduct. All three reasons should be enough to dismiss all charges against all these Marines.

I agree that Winter and Walker should be fired and that a full investigation of the NCIS be conducted.


25 posted on 07/25/2007 7:13:37 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
To a vet, this is disgusting. The Marines are sacrificing their own on the alter of PC (it looks like). Consider what these Marines went through and are going through. Murtha should be censured and removed from Congress.
26 posted on 07/25/2007 7:15:32 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: RedRover

Good point about COl. Sokoloski. I’m also wondering how Gen. Huck feels about his testimony during Chessani’s hearing? The predator may not have been aloft when the civilians were killed in those houses, but it and the Scan Eagle make it obvious the insurgents were spreading out and taking on the Marines elsewhere. The Haditha “incident” was not an isolated engagement. It was part of a full day of combat.


27 posted on 07/25/2007 7:16:05 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: RedRover; freeangel
But President Bush's DOJ apparently thinks otherwise.

Mr. Bush's DOJ is constitutionally wrong:

Article I Section. 6.
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.
They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.

Murtha's statements were made, not only on the Floor of the House, but in a public venue both before and after his Floor speeches. Also notice that "Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace" ARE causes for arrest on the Floor.

28 posted on 07/25/2007 7:22:49 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: RedRover

Oh my...


29 posted on 07/25/2007 7:23:36 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: caisson71
If NCIS, or any other government agency, is somehow cooking the facts for the sake of politics, I say we are in deep shit.

When are they not cooking the facts for the sake of politics?
30 posted on 07/25/2007 7:23:57 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: brityank; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

Hell yeah, ping.


31 posted on 07/25/2007 7:24:06 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, NIECE)
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To: AliVeritas
The morgue angle came up in this hearing though it wasn't reported at all in the media. The Iraqi hospital reports did not match the determinations of the prosecution's pathology experts. It was pretty farcical (in a horrendously grim kind of way).

Granted, prosecution experts based their determinations about causes of death on photographs so it wasn't two conclusions based on the same evidence. But it showed that prosecuting Marines for murder when no one really knows how the "victims" died is ridiculous.

32 posted on 07/25/2007 7:24:07 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Anybody up for some serious debunking?

From Newshounds...
“He cited as one of his examples the mainstream media’s reporting on Haditha. Last I checked, the media got it right about that. But Bozell didn’t elaborate and Hannity didn’t ask.”

http://www.tiny.cc/pgMHD


33 posted on 07/25/2007 7:26:25 PM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: aruanan

Like much of the news today, we don’t read/hear about all that is going right with many government agencies. I believe - and that is all I can do - that there are many honest and hard working people in gov’t agencies doing excellent work for this country, keeping us safe and promoting the betterment for all. It’s the “dirty dishes” we see and smell.


34 posted on 07/25/2007 7:29:02 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: caisson71
All of this makes me sick.

You aren't the only one.

35 posted on 07/25/2007 7:29:42 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: RedRover
Saaay Whaaat?? **bug-eyed bewilderment**

An officer who was there said so many people were watching the fight go down that a faraway Public Affairs Officer wrote 3/1 to suggest it was time to “maximize the coalition coverage of this, pointing out to the locals that insurgents don't care about their children."

They have VIDEO of this!! Remind me again why these men were charged??

And this:

On December 18, 2005, three days before three Marines from his squad were charged with murder Mendoza was granted immunityfrom prosecution in return for his cooperation. Despite previous testimony to the contrary Mendoza went from being part of a combat stack of Marines attacking a hostile objective to a lone Marine apparently wandering around in a smoke-filled house grenades had just been thrown into, he testified.

This story has so many holes, swiss cheese would blush.

Oh, and finally this nugget:

“[It]… finishes with the insurgent holding a child in order to avoid getting bombed again,” he added, “before we swarmed in to capture him.”

Uhhh, wouldn't this be a smoking gun?? If I were the judge, it would be "Dismissed, WITH prejudice!" thwap, thwap, thwap (my gavel). Oh and then,"Now bring me Tim McGirk and John Murtha!" thwap, thwap, thwap. (Obviously more a civilian court fantasy.)

This has gone from being just "hinky" to a total farce of a prosecution. What on EARTH is going on here??

36 posted on 07/25/2007 7:29:46 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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To: brityank
I don't know where, but I firmly recall Conlin stating that "in his opinion" that Chessani should have been out in the field instead of "looking at grainy images at the CP".

Yes, that statement is bugging me. Wouldn't Conlin actually be AWARE of the technology capabilities of the Scan Eagle? And if he was, why would he spout off something so ridiculous, on its face?

37 posted on 07/25/2007 7:40:24 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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To: dynachrome
It's taken all this time to come out because NCIS investigators ignored any evidence that was exculpatory. You may remember that the Article 32s were delayed a month from their original commencement dates. Prosecutors were made aware of the existence of this evidence months after charges were filed against the Marines.

Also, portions of this evidence were only recently declassified and are still being kept largely under wraps. Understandably, no one is eager to let the enemy know just how we monitor them.

38 posted on 07/25/2007 7:42:04 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: brityank; Girlene; All
You raise a very important point. The "grainy images" that Conlin referred to were the result of compressed images. As has come to light, Conlin was not shown the video in its original state. The version he saw had degraded image quality to save on storage space and download time. That's what gave the impression of "grainy images".
39 posted on 07/25/2007 7:48:47 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Shelayne
Wouldn't Conlin actually be AWARE of the technology capabilities of the Scan Eagle?

Probably not.
Recall that Conlin was in Iraq in 2003, and they didn't have division-level flying eyes until 2005, and the newer ones didn't arrive until then either. He based his wrong-headed opinion on only what he had experienced, not on what he should have learned in the Leadership Training Continuing Ed courses he should have had. He, and the rest of the Rear Echelon Military Fakes need to take some remedial Operations courses and see what the real Marines are doing today, not what they were doing three years ago.

40 posted on 07/25/2007 7:49:55 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger; Girlene
I didn't see any reports about closing statements or about the testimony on Monday and Tuesday. I know Lucian Read testified for the defense but have no idea what he said. It's going to make writing our usual summary of testimony a real challenge!
41 posted on 07/25/2007 7:50:42 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; Girlene; All

As I said in #49, Conlin didn’t know, and didn’t care.


42 posted on 07/25/2007 7:52:16 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank; Girlene; All

Sheesh! #40 !!


43 posted on 07/25/2007 7:53:01 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: RedRover
The Case Against the Haditha Defendants is Coming Unglued

The LIES about the Haditha Defendants ARE COMING OUT

would be a more accurate headline I think.

44 posted on 07/25/2007 7:53:02 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Yeah. And the bill for ALL of their lawyers fees should be picked up by Murtha and the media, who had them tried and convicted before it even came to court. My choice words can’t be posted.


45 posted on 07/25/2007 7:54:44 PM PDT by StarCMC (This country is not free by the pen but by the back,brains and bullets of a soldier. ~advertsng guy)
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger; RedRover

I can’t raise that link via my Verizon link and Firefox: Firefox can’t find the server at www.tiny.cc. Can you verify it please?


46 posted on 07/25/2007 7:57:14 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine
Murtha callously used these Marines to help turn Americans against the war in Iraq, and to help tip Congress to the Democrats in 06. Mission accomplished.


47 posted on 07/25/2007 7:57:52 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
It's taken all this time to come out because NCIS investigators ignored any evidence that was exculpatory.

Hmmm...That sounds like a "cover-up".


48 posted on 07/25/2007 7:58:23 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Chickenhawk Warmonger

Ditto brityank.


49 posted on 07/25/2007 8:00:18 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Shelayne

See post 39.


50 posted on 07/25/2007 8:03:35 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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