Posted on 07/25/2007 9:12:48 PM PDT by gpapa
For the sake of argument, imagine that opponents of the war in Iraq are right. Suppose that our military -- designed to confront a different enemy, on a different battlefield, in a different era -- has met its match. Suppose that the war against al-Qaeda in Iraq, as well as against various Iranian-backed Shia militias, can not be won, and that staying on in Iraq can do nothing to protect America’s vital national security interests.
If that’s true, we must prepare for defeat in Afghanistan as well. There is no reason to believe that the strategy being used against us in Iraq will be less effective 1,400 miles further east.
After exiting from Iraq and Afghanistan, it is inconceivable that we would then send U.S. forces into the wild and mountainous “frontier” provinces of northwest Pakistan where Osama bin Ladin has been rebuilding his base. Nor will we be able to exert much pressure on Pakistan’s government to take serious action. Pakistan enjoyed cordial relations with the Taliban and al-Qaeda prior to 9/11/01. Only after that attack, when Americans rose up in anger, did Pakistani leaders decide it would be wise to realign. Expect Pakistan to shift yet again should America retreat in humiliation from Iraq and Afghanistan.
(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...
It’s unbelievable how people can think our military is losing to a bunch of rag-tag arabs attacking us with munitions made from platic and duct tape. For every troop they kill, we kill thousands. We’re absolutely obliterating them. Compare the fatalities of Troops in iraq to, say, south central LA and you’ll see that even a first world nation has shooting deaths.
Good article. Iraq is a battle in a war that we cannot lose.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/attack/140133_bushiraq18.html
Bush: No Iraq link to 9/11 found
President says Saddam had ties to al-Qaida, but apparently not to attacks
"No, we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with September the 11th," Bush said.
Words from the wise: Never underestimate your enemy my good friend.
Damn the Demoncrats... If we bring the troops home I say unleash them on the liberals.
btt
Saddam was supporting and training islamic terrorists, including al-queda and we were very concerned that he would provide wmd to them. He was directly involved in the 1993 bombings of the World Trade Center and Oklahoma City, tried to assassinate 2 US presidents, daily targeted and shot at Coalition aircraft and refused to abide by the ceasefire agreement from the first Gulf War.
Iraq is now the central fight as zawahiri has admitted. Whether by chance or design, that's where the terrorists are. Like moths to a flame they are drawn there.
Understand this, I'm in the military, now. So I'm not soft on terrorists, nor am I afraid of them.
What bothers me is that by going into Iraq, it appears that we've taken our eye off the ball. Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all sorry to see ol' Saddass gone, but at what cost? Remember, Iraq had no airforce, no navy, and not much of an army. They'd been kept tied down for a dozen years with our sanctions, and while he took pot-shots at our planes, that was more for show. You can shoot a pop-gun all day long at a fighter jet, but it ain't a gonna do much.
In his state of the union address, the president identified 3 members in the "axis of evil". Since Iraq was contained, why spend our limited military resources on a basket case? Since we've gone in, what's happened in Iran? Korea? Heck, how about Pakistan(where Osama bin Sh*thead is), or in Saudi Arabia(where 15 of the 19 hijack-offs came from)?
Think about this, if President Bush is right(do you agree with him?), then why aren't we pursuing those @$$holes who did have ties to 9/11?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/886590/posts
http://www.jaynadavis.com/
Above are a couple of links. You'll probably have to copy and paste. Just search ramzi yousef and abu yasin. They flew from Baghdad on Iraqi passports, set off the bomb in the WTC in 93 and Yasin fled back to Iraq where saddam greeted him as a hero. It is believed that yousef fled to iraq also and then to the Phillipines and then Pakistan.
Zarqawi fled the war in Afghanistan to Baghdad for medical treatment and set up there eventually starting the poison gas plot to attack Jordan in 1999.
We know that there were "diplomatic" relations between saddam and bin laden for years. The Czech Intelligence is certain that mohammed atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague before 911. We know that saddam trained and gave sanctuary to some of the worlds most evil terrorists, including abu nidal.
Saddam was not contained by any logical measure. Oil for Food ring a bell? The sanctions were gutted and saddam was just biding his time before resuming full scale. We found everything saddam needed to make a nuclear weapon in iraq. Yellowcake and enriched uranium and parts and plans for centrifuges to enrich to bomb grade. Plans for making nuclear devices. Remember when the nyt got their knickers in a twist because the DOD had this info on their website? They scooped the times and they had a hissy fit.
Above and beyond all, according to the Kay and Duelfer reports, saddam had the intent to resume full scale activity and kept in place the dual use tecnology.
The jihadis do not respect borders, there is only 1 caliphate. The shiites and the sunnis kill each other 3 days a week but 4 days a week the work together to kill Crusaders and Jews.
Look at the map. The next threat is iran and it is now completely surrounded. Also as in Afghanistan, Chechneya, Bosnia, Iraq has become the central front as admitted by zawahiri. Thousands and thousands of jihadis are going to Iraq to slay the Crusaders and are instead meeting their virgins. This war has been going on for 1400 years only now they have the financing and the technology to really achieve their sick dream.
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