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NASA Worker Caught in Acts of Sabotage on ISS Bound Computer
Engedget | July 26, 2007 | Joshua Toposky

Posted on 07/26/2007 5:16:13 PM PDT by John Leland 1789

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To: John Leland 1789
As this appears to be the first ever report of sabotage on the space program, you can expect to hear a lot more on this story in the very near future>

Not sure. Right after the challenger disaster they found a guy who had hidden razor blades in potted plants right near the O-ring inspection area. They found several o rings with slashes on them. I was part of the space program... this is a fact.
21 posted on 07/26/2007 6:15:42 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: stm
I love it. We spent 1-1/2 years in the Pacific Maritime Region (Primorskiy) of Russia. We always joked about the Russians building instant ruins when they erected anything.

I sold some steel-frame housing packages to a construction company in Vladivostok (actually, I sold the idea to them - I made nothing from the company that produced them . . . I was an idiot on that one). The head of the construction company was really a very nice guy. But he really believed that the only way to insulate a building for their climate was to use brick and concrete 18 inches thick. What cold buildings Russians build !!

So, a Korean firm was building a steel frame office complex with terrific insulation products. I took my Russian friend on a tour of it. The walls were about 9 inches thick total, and the R value was unbelievably high.

Until I left Vladivostok, the housing construction firm resisted the steel frame. Only later did they contact the steel frame company in Arizona and shipped the units. (So I didn’t get any commission.)

My point is, in the mid to late 1990s, Russians in technological fields seemed to be very far behind the times.

Vladivostokians in those years were intensely interested in the U.S. Peace Corps (one-world socialist freaks bordering on being an inward cult, from our observations), UNO assistance agencies (more socialists), international environmentalist organizations (more socialists), and of all things, the Baha’i Faith. Well, Baha’i teaches one-world-ism, socialism, deliberate race-maxing, and has its international offices in the UNO complex in New York.

22 posted on 07/26/2007 6:23:17 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: A.A. Cunningham

um, yeah. he has no source. some dude named josh. at least mine was foxnews. and about 6 hours ahead. i wasn’t scolding or anything. just that mine has more information so he might want to check it out.


23 posted on 07/26/2007 6:37:48 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: John Leland 1789

“My point is, in the mid to late 1990s, Russians in technological fields seemed to be very far behind the times.”

You DO recall that they did beat us into space, right ?

It’s the Russians political system telling them how things should be done that keeps them behind in many areas.


24 posted on 07/26/2007 6:42:32 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: thefactor

Sure you weren’t. You need to attend HTML Bootcamp.


25 posted on 07/26/2007 7:05:33 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: RS
You DO recall that they did beat us into space, right ?

Yep

It’s the Russians political system telling them how things should be done that keeps them behind in many areas.

And it was the US political system telling us how to do things that allowed them to beat us into space. Rather than use those nasty militaristic Army employed Germans,like von Braun, who actually had some experience with big rockets, we gave the job to NASA's predecessor, NACA with funding via the National Science Foundation.

Project Vanguard, the NACA/NSF program, was a disaster. Five days after getting the go ahead to use an Army missile instead, Explorer one went into orbit on a Jupiter C, a version of the Redstone, both products of the von Braun group.

Vanguard 1. (Video Here

Explorer 1 Launch on Jupiter C.

:)


26 posted on 07/26/2007 7:09:40 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
ugh, i've been there so many times in the past six years but i have only retained how to post pictures. like this one:


27 posted on 07/26/2007 7:10:35 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: John Leland 1789; Gondring

“But what is it in me that just can’t wait to see a name?!”

Wonder what it is in me that makes me suspect you would really, really want to know the guys religion rather then his name ?


28 posted on 07/26/2007 7:11:44 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
You DO recall that they did beat us into space, right ?

The major reason for this is because they couldn't build small H bombs. We could. So we build relatively small IRBMs and ICBMS. They could not, so they had to build huge ones. Even then they couldn't build a big motor, so they clustered many smaller ones. Essentially copied from captured V-2s.

29 posted on 07/26/2007 7:13:29 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Jaysun; Borax Queen
Whoever sabotaged this computer also sabotaged another one 1.5 weeks ago.

fyi ping.

30 posted on 07/26/2007 7:14:40 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: RS

Is it too late to join in the betting on what religion he or she is?


31 posted on 07/26/2007 7:20:52 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: El Gato

“And it was the US political system telling us how to do things that allowed them to beat us into space. “

well, von Braun’s object might have been to get into space, but I’m sure he was directed here, same as in Germany to figure out how to drop things a long distance away. At the time, dropping things was much more important then orbiting a tape recorder.

When we decided that orbit was important, we did good at it, just like they did.

You have to give credit where it is due, considering their country WAS invaded and bombed to pieces not so many years before.

We screw up when we underestimate people - That’s why so much in the world now has a Toyota or Samsung label on it.


32 posted on 07/26/2007 7:43:55 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: El Gato

“The major reason for this is because they couldn’t build small H bombs.”

Don’t think that big or small matters very much as long as you have a way to get thenm there, right ?

... and I’ve allways thought that clustering proven designs was a pretty good idea on their part.

For a screwed up economy and political system they gave us a good run for the money.


33 posted on 07/26/2007 7:54:30 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: StolarStorm
Right after the challenger disaster they found a guy who had hidden razor blades in potted plants right near the O-ring inspection area. They found several o rings with slashes on them. I was part of the space program... this is a fact.

I never have heard of this. Please provide a link or some kind of accredidation for this "fact".

34 posted on 07/26/2007 8:00:54 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: Yossarian

Ok, how am I supposed to do that when it was something I was told and read about while at work? Link? Hardly.


35 posted on 07/26/2007 8:03:05 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Yossarian
Fyi about your "fact" insult/insinuation...

If this was something that was in a publicly available link or document you'd already know it. I don't give a damn if you believe me or not. Sure, I guess I could show you my employment records... but then I don't owe you anything.
36 posted on 07/26/2007 8:06:25 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm

“Ok, how am I supposed to do that when it was something I was told and read about while at work?”

Interesting, if you were told about it it’s one thing ... but if you read about it it’s totally another - more info regarding this could have someone generate a FOIR if you really think that this information should be out in the wild.


37 posted on 07/26/2007 8:15:03 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: RS
Don’t think that big or small matters very much as long as you have a way to get thenm there, right ?

Sure, but if you've already built big rockets it's a lot easier to convert those to throw small objects into orbit than it is to build an entirely new rocket.

I've allways thought that clustering proven designs was a pretty good idea on their part.

They worked with what they had. However there's a big weight penalty, eventually limiting how heavy a "something" you can toss, and costing lots more in fuel and rocket components. Still those big clustered rockets are what is still used to loft the larger components of the Space Station. We take up the bulky but not so heavy stuff in the shuttle. They take up the not so bulky consumables, along with fresh "lifeboats" every so often.

38 posted on 07/26/2007 8:53:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

“Endeavour”? Wow, someone’s out of the running for Employee of the Month.


39 posted on 07/26/2007 9:04:14 PM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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To: El Gato

Not sure your point ... the Saturn 5 was a cluster, and the shuttle uses the boosters and 3 main engines.


40 posted on 07/26/2007 10:03:36 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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