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To: Steak
"Ethanol is NOT a dopey idea. You are actually being shortsighted. Corn based ethanol? Yes, it is a joke. Costs more or as much to produce as the energy you get from it. Where it can work, is creating the infrastructure for ethanol. In a few years, you will have cellulosic ethanol, made in large part by waste products of current logging and farming. If the infrastructure is there, the businesses will be willing to take the risk. They will not invest the billions needed, without the infrastructure they need to make it viable. When we can use wood pulp, unneeded agricultural products (corn stalks/husks, grasses, etc.) it will be huge. It will not happen if we don’t begin the switch." Exactly, the current market is a grasshopper, only interested in the short profit, thusly they will not, on their own, see the need to build and infrastructure to support Ethanol transition in things like fleet vehicles and E85 for automobiles, with no quick profit, there will be no investment. Now the smart ant will see that it is only a matter of time until China and India BOTH use as much gasoline as the we the US do, meaning market scarcity will drive up costs of gasoline use. Build now, or cry later under European type prices for gasoline. That is ant thinking, we know a winter will come, how will we prepare for it? The fed govt's role should be to facilitate the building of infrastructure, and BTW we would bankrupt Iran if we do it quickly enough....
34 posted on 07/26/2007 8:30:05 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
it is only a matter of time until China and India BOTH use as much gasoline as the we the US do, meaning market scarcity will drive up costs of gasoline use

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The fed govt's role should be to facilitate the building of infrastructure, and BTW we would bankrupt Iran if we do it quickly enough...

It appears that you are undermining your own argument. How, exactly, are we going to "bankrupt Iran" by reducing US oil consumption, when according to your own statement, growing demand in China and India will more than replace the US demand?

43 posted on 07/26/2007 9:12:30 PM PDT by Zeppo (We live in the Age of Stupidity. [Dennis Prager])
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