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ACLU harms the country (time and time again)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42544 ^

Posted on 07/28/2007 11:48:51 PM PDT by tpanther

Has the ACLU gone too far?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: January 25, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By William E. Simon

Believe it or not, there was a time when the American Civil Liberties Union was a respected organization that fought to protect civil liberties for all Americans. But that time is long past. Today the ACLU is a highly ideological organization that opposes the government's efforts to fight terrorism and seeks to overturn traditional religious practices that have nothing whatever to do with threats to civil liberties.

Consider, for example, some recent actions taken by the ACLU. The United States is fighting a war against foreign terrorists who claim to act for religious reasons. The ACLU defends them. Yet at the same time it is suing Americans who wish only to honor their religious heritage.

Though the ACLU points to the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to support its absolutist position on religion and government, the founding fathers made clear that this clause meant only that government could not establish a national religion or favor one religion over another. Indeed, they sought to protect and to promote religion as a vital support for moral virtue and individual liberty. This was the broad understanding of just about every political leader and constitutional scholar down to, roughly, the 1950s.

The absolutist position was in fact the handiwork of several members of the U.S. Supreme Court, led by Justice Hugo Black, who wrote: "The First Amendment has erected a wall between Church and State. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach." This is the doctrine that the ACLU pursues as it seeks to fortify and extend this wall of separation between church and state, between religion and government, and between moral values and political debate.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aclu; enemywithin; lawsuits

1 posted on 07/28/2007 11:48:54 PM PDT by tpanther
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To: tpanther

“Has the ACLU gone too far?”...Do pigeons poop?...


2 posted on 07/29/2007 12:00:44 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: tpanther

I hate when conservatives try to demonize Hugo Black. He was the closest thing to a strict constructionist on con law that has sat on the bench in the 20th century,

he might be an absolutist on teacher led mandatory school prayer, but he also would have ruled against Roe v, Wade (he dissented against Griswold v. Conneticut, the precursor to Roe) or any other activist judicial decision. I have studied the man, and he was basically like “the constitution says what it says”.


3 posted on 07/29/2007 12:08:37 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: tpanther
The implication of Black's "wall" dictum is that moral considerations cannot inform criminal law. Therefore all criminal law is arbitrary and, as such, unenforceable under the Ninth Amendment.

How's about that one?

4 posted on 07/29/2007 12:13:04 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

It would be interesting to see what Hugo Black would say about the ACLU banning anything and everything Christian while giving other religions a free pass.


5 posted on 07/29/2007 12:37:02 AM PDT by tpanther
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Sue them. Yup I said it. File lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit against them. Takw away all government funding and the the hell out of them.

For what? Who cares. Bankrupt them. That’s how you beat communists. You take away their money source.


6 posted on 07/29/2007 4:58:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")
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To: tpanther

There are plenty of other organizations and people hell bent on harming this country, but at least I’m not paying for them with MY taxes. We need to stop the government from funding the aclu now!


7 posted on 07/29/2007 5:29:28 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: tpanther
ACLU Applauds House Armed Services Hearing on Restoring Habeas Corpus Due Process Rights
8 posted on 07/29/2007 7:35:21 AM PDT by lowbridge (A Gun A Day Keeps The Government Away)
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ACLU caught red-handed? Changes view of precedent when it favors Christian group

The ACLU's support of a legal precedent used to gain recognition of a student homosexual group has reversed now that the ruling is being used to back the rights of a Christian club on campus, claims a public-interest law firm.

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ADF points out that in 2003, shortly after Prince v. Jacoby was decided, the ACLU sent an information letter to school officials in Washington state explaining the case "makes it clear that student clubs promoting tolerance for gay students are entitled to the same resources as other clubs."

But now, the ACLU has filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the Truth case that takes the opposite position.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43950

9 posted on 07/29/2007 7:40:15 AM PDT by lowbridge (A Gun A Day Keeps The Government Away)
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I wish the ACLJ would simply find a good test case and take the ACLU into the USSC to challenge the myth of Separation of Church and State. It’s time.


10 posted on 07/29/2007 7:44:38 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB

past time IMO. So much of this country’s heritage is being degraded.


11 posted on 07/29/2007 9:14:10 AM PDT by tpanther
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