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To: dwhole2th
Oh, stop with the noble Science crap. Read my byline and understand that Science is being hijacked for various nefarious political purposes by the Libs. Just turn on Discovery or National Geographic channel and hear all about mankind causing all kinds of ills and how aborted fetuses will cure all disease, or how this or that monkey was our great ancestor.
76 posted on 08/01/2007 11:43:39 AM PDT by razzle (Liberal Science: Experiments on unborn babies, man-made global warming, and darwinism.)
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To: razzle
Just turn on Discovery or National Geographic channel and hear all about mankind causing all kinds of ills and how aborted fetuses will cure all disease, or how this or that monkey was our great ancestor.

Abortion and global warming are similar to evolution? I'm against embryonic stem cell research, however those embryos are hardly "aborted fetuses". Get your facts straight before trying to preach.

You are closer to the enviro wackos and the pro-aborts because you already have a set conclusion that you wish to make the facts conform to. Whereas they morph facts around their principles of socialism and abortion, you do the same for a literal Old Testament. That's not science; science exists independently from your dated creation myths.

77 posted on 08/01/2007 12:05:01 PM PDT by GunRunner (Come on Fred, how long are you going to wait?)
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To: razzle

The basis of scientific method is the elimination of bias.

You seem to not accept that fact, therefore you argue from a world view that excludes you from the scientific community.

It’s fine with me if you want to interpret the natural world, made by God, according to your biases.

But, there exists a worldwide community of scientists who are dedicated to discovering the true nature of the universe we live in. Even you are a recipient of benefits made possible because of that dedication.

I stand by my statement that science is dispassionate. Good science never attempts to mould the world into a preconceived view. That’s what creationists do to science. That’s why creation science is not good science. It comes at the process of finding truth with a preconceived notion of what truth ought to be, not with a mind open to whatever the truth will be.

When science proved that the solar system was not geocentric the Catholic church changed it’s dogma. That was a pretty smart thing to do, otherwise the Church would have had to maintain a position based in ignorance of the truth. That change did not undermine the fundamental belief system within the Church which is salvation through the Lord Jesus Christ.

Maintaining a position against science does not improve on the fundamental message of Christianity. And looking to the Bible for scientific information does not improve the fundamental knowledge we have of the universe.


78 posted on 08/01/2007 12:47:13 PM PDT by dwhole2th (''God gets you to the plate, but once you're there, you're on your own". Ted Williams)
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To: razzle

The idea of a creation museum is exactly like what Dan Rather pulled when he said his news report on Bush was based on documents that were fake, but accurate.

Exactly the same thing. The creation museum is based on fake science. That doesn’t seem like a good way to lead people to the truth. In fact, it’s probably counter productive because people who understand science even a little bit will probably be pushed away from religion if they perceive that religion needs fake science to validate the message.

Better to leave religion in the faith department and leave science to real scientists.


79 posted on 08/01/2007 1:08:02 PM PDT by dwhole2th (''God gets you to the plate, but once you're there, you're on your own". Ted Williams)
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