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1 posted on 07/30/2007 3:56:26 AM PDT by theothercheek
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The New York Times


2 posted on 07/30/2007 4:00:07 AM PDT by buck61
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The Saudis our good friends, should amply rewarded for undermining us in Iraq. Great move!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 07/30/2007 4:04:22 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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I see make up fraudlent accusations against the Saudis in the Politically Corrupt media by siteing “unnamed sources” then use the farudlent propaganda as “proof” of your accusations.

Considering how frequently the NY Times has been caught in lies when they publish these propaganda hit pieces, For example the “Bush is drawing up plans to close Gitmo, and Bush is going wobbly on Iraq” the NY Time published in July that both turned out to be complete lies, I would expect “Conservatives” to be a lot less gulliable in jumping at every red herring the Politically Corrupted media waves at them.

So here we go again. The Liar Media wave around abunch of unsubstaitated accusations and the rabid Know Nothing geeks on the Right go into hysteria. Just like on Dubai Ports.

Did any of the Know Nothing idiots ever bother to look at a map? See that country called Iran the Saudi’s border?

Yeah, LET’s not do a smart deal that keeps these nations dependent on American made weapons and military supplies. Let not do a deal that rewards them for their intelligence and political support against the Terrorists. Which contary to the propaganda from the proven liars at the NY Times is their REAL record. Let us not do a deal that keeps our Defense contractors at work and drives up our exports. Let not do a deal that significantly increases support for Israel at the same time. Let us not do a deal the helps reduce the cost per unit for weapons procurment for our OWN military.

No lets drive these nations into the arms of the Chinese or the Russians or the French, (or worse a neutrality pack with Iran)just because a bunch of American political trash, along with their Leftist allies in the US Junk Media, hate the current Preisdent for not granting their every domestic political whimsy the second they decided they wanted it


6 posted on 07/30/2007 4:11:00 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("TodayÂ’s task is three dimensional chess in the dark". General Rick Lynch in Baghdad)
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I don’t see a picture. Could you post it again?


22 posted on 07/30/2007 5:50:23 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (WARNING: Dangerous to pregnant women and small children. May burst into flames at any time.)
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We need to hit our Congress critters just like we did with the immigration bill. No arms sales to Islamicist countries!


25 posted on 07/30/2007 6:15:47 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Yeah there a real smart tactic. Scream your ignorance LOUDER rather then bother to learn a single thing that does not validate your emotion based 100%er political dogmas.

Curious, does George Soros send you a Christmas card to thank you for the way you relentlessly propagandize for the Moveon.org Left?

Cause what ever your real political opinions, your whine all the time ranting are the exact sort of thing a Democrat National Committee activist would use as political PR.

Surprise us one time. Instead of desperately seeking everyday any excuse to stick a knife in what is suppose to be your own side's back, actually ONE time attack the Leftists on ANYTHING.

29 posted on 07/30/2007 6:57:36 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("TodayÂ’s task is three dimensional chess in the dark". General Rick Lynch in Baghdad)
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Undermining prime minister Nuri al-Maliki by giving financial assistance to his political opponents...

Financing Maliki's political opponents is not undermining Maliki or his Iranian backed friends. The [reasonable] demands of elected Sunni officials in the Iraqi Parliament include the dis-armorment of Iranian backed militias responsible for the Balkanization of Iraq. They are protesting Maliki's inability or unwillingness to curb Iran's influence in Iraq and curb the stratification of Iraqi society because of militias. Indeed, Saudi support is doing the opposite of what this article suggests. Saudi support is stabilizing Iraq by protesting Maliki's policies on Iran backed militias.

waging a months-long campaign to recruit other Persian Gulf countries to give financial aid to Sunni tribal groups;

This [tribal] effort is driving the successes we've witnessed in Al-Anbar and Diyala against terrorists there. Why? Because we've finally realized that our success must go through legitimate, indigenous forces willing to be helped, and willing to help others. In the process of democratization, the voice of the Iraqi people will be heard. It remains to be seen if the world is willing to listen.

and looking the other way as some 60 to 80 foreign insurgents from Saudi Arabia enter the fray in Iraq each month.

While any number of foreign fighters entering Iraq is unacceptable, the idea that the Saudis are looking the other way is a fabrication. The Saudis have gone to great lengths to prevent their people from engaging in violence in Iraq's theater of operations. But, let's take this lie at face value. Even if the Saudis were only looking the other way, that implies they are not encouraging more violence in Iraq. Iran, on the other hand is officially encouraging violence in Iraq through rhetoric and action. The Saudis know Iran is prone to destabilize nations through support of Shiite [opposition] movements in those nations. The pattern is clear. Last year, Mahmood Ahmadinejad's Mecca trip called for Muslim solidarity against the enemies of Islam - essentially nullifying the importance of Middle Eastern governments who work with the United States. Tehran is openly crowning itself region master and what's happening in Iraq, Lebanon, Palestine, Venezuela, to name just a few... are signs that make the Saudis very concerned.

When it comes to the Saudis as a reliable global trading partner, no one should underestimate the role Saudi plays in stabilizing [or conceivably disrupting] the global economy. If you have any doubt about how the global economy works, how our service based economy works, how reliant the majority of the products you buy are on petroleum - then you should reconsider your tone when you write about our friends the Saudis. Does any of what I just said claim that our International relations with the Saudi government is not strained at times by official Saudi policies; yes problems exist. But the article you posted does not approach them.

30 posted on 07/30/2007 7:52:36 AM PDT by humint (...err the least and endure! VDH)
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“What’s Wrong With This Picture?”

What picture?


31 posted on 07/30/2007 7:56:03 AM PDT by CJ Wolf
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