Third possibility, people see what they want or expect to see.. It's like when you buy a new car, you see the same model everywhere.. are there suddenly more models of the same car? No, but your mind picks out those models.. 
Posted on 07/30/2007 6:46:05 AM PDT by claudiustg
Successful conspiracy against power can only happen one of two ways:
Either the conspiracists are so closed-lipped that no one ever finds out about the conspiracy until it is too late, or else the conspiracy is so absurd and ill-considered that no one takes it seriously in the first place.
There appear to be relatively few successful conspiracies of the first sort, probably because it violates human nature too much. The larger the conspiracy, the more likely that someone will tell the wrong person too much and lead the authorities to the truth before the conspiracy can reach fruition...
...On the other hand, sometimes conspiracies are well understood in their intent and even practical application before they are accomplished, and yet the powers-that-be don’t act in a manner fitting for self-preservation. These are the conspiracies that are most dangerous, the ones that are ignored or overlooked the way the brown recluse spider can hide in plain sight and be mistaken for a common house spider.
Such conspiracies are not always successful, of course, but they have a much better chance of success than those that are taken seriously by the authorities. A few simple examples are the rise to power of Adolf Hitler and the Bolshevik Revolution.
I’m not sure if we are in the midst of such a conspiracy today or not, but it seems that there are only two explanations for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America — one is stupidity and the other is conspiracy. That veil of stupidity, of course, is the perfect cover to make an actual conspiracy a success, so in a well-planned conspiracy it could actually be part of the plot.
If you don’t know what the Security and Prosperity Partnership is, welcome to the crowd.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailyinterlake.com ...
Third possibility, people see what they want or expect to see.. It's like when you buy a new car, you see the same model everywhere.. are there suddenly more models of the same car? No, but your mind picks out those models..
Just remember, British system guarantees EVERYONE treatment! Huzzah, huzzarh!
And yet every knows it a conspiracy...
http://www.spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp
Come on guys, it's the government, these people can't even agree on where to go for lunch, and the Titanic had less leaks...
People expect to see conspiracy, they will see all the signs pointing to that conspiracy.. they ignore all the signs pointing away from the conspiracy. This conspiracy, in one form or another, has been around long before our country existed, only the names have changed...
Oh my God! Come to think of it, you are right! It’s a conspiracy...
There is no conspiracy!
And they knew it all along!
The bastards...
I’m not sure if we are in the midst of such a conspiracy today or not, but it seems that there are only two explanations for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America — one is stupidity and the other is conspiracy. That veil of stupidity, of course, is the perfect cover to make an actual conspiracy a success, so in a well-planned conspiracy it could actually be part of the plot.
You're not ridiculous and stupid, you're protecting us from the Nazis. LOL!
Let’s see - the Republicans and the Democrats all agreed on a Shamnesty - until the constituents got involved.
Yeah, it’s just nothing...
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/ca52_hunter/Nafta_hgwy_amendment.shtml
-—HUNTER NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY AMENDMENT PASSES HOUSE
Washington, D.C. – Late last evening, Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) successfully offered an amendment to H.R. 3074, the FY2008 Transportation Appropriations Act, prohibiting the use of federal funds for participation in working groups under the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), including the creation of the NAFTA Super Highway. The Hunter amendment gained strong bipartisan support, passing the House by a vote of 362 – 63.
“The proposed NAFTA Super Highway presents significant challenges to our nation’s security, the safety of vehicle motorists, and will likely drive down wages for American workers,” said Congressman Hunter. “Much like NAFTA, the super highway is designed to serve the interests of our trading partners and will lead to neither security nor prosperity.
“This 12 lane highway, which is already under construction in Texas, will fast-track thousands of cargo containers across the U.S. without adequate security. These containers will move from Mexico, a country with a record of corruption and involvement in the drug trade, across a border that is already porous and insufficiently protected.
“Unfortunately, very little is known about the NAFTA Super Highway. This amendment will provide Congress the opportunity to exercise oversight of the highway, which remains a subject of question and uncertainty, and ensure that our safety and security will not be comprised in order to promote the business interests of our neighbors.”
NOTE: SPP working groups are advancing a plan to build the NAFTA Super Highway – an international corridor extending between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.-—
I am surprised they aren’t calling for the disbanding of NORAD- after all, that is a “North American Security Partnership”...
Did you ever think they just don't want a bunch of conspiracy nutcases within 15 miles of the Presidents?
It’s like a conspiracy, but not really a conspiracy. It is an informal conspiracy rooted in individual psychology where the total behavior forms an institution or system with a life of its own.
Sorry, I was mowing my compound.
What was the question?
Send it in code will ya, they’re watching me...
That’s not a damned conspiracy, that’s freaking congress...
500 people who can’t decide when to eat, much less where to go.
Jeez Louise...
Will it be an invisible secret Super Highway, or will normal people also be able to see it?
Can you imagine how long those signs will last once a bunch of drunk frats see them?
LOL!
Unfortunately, he’s also a flaming liberal.
You sound as you if you don't believe what we're all seeing.... and you hope there MUST be a third explanation, no matter how obvious and open they speak of their plans for more "cooperation" between the North American member states.
And Foucalt's Pendulum was a great book!! :-)
Most people do not see the real world as it is. The real world consists of property lines and rights of way. The Highway already exists in part legally and therefore is reality, yet most do not see it. Normal people can learn to see reality but most don't until their neighbor builds a fence three feet onto their lot.
Very true. Nothing hidden here, as it's all out in the open if you know which back alley to walk down to see it in action.
Back alley, hell they doin’ it on C-Span...
Actually, I look beyond what I am told I should be seeing.. cooperation and trade do not equal loss of sovereignty. A lot of people want there to be a conspiracy because they expect a conspiracy, and thus, they see it in everything. They ignore, for example, in the infamous NAU document by the CFR that there are several conclusions including each country tightening border restrictions, expanding NORAD to include Mexico, trade only, or security only (with the US running the show..) They also ignore that there are many counter proposals to the NAU drafted by the CFR.. after all that is their job, to research and debate various ideas, not to make policy.
-—Will it be an invisible secret Super Highway, or will normal people also be able to see it?-—
It’s all so silly don’t you think or don’t you?
Just checking, because style counts, what tune is normally whistled, when one is walking past a grave yard.
I like something really scary, like the Halloween theme or the one from the Twilight Zone
I’m a little surprised.
YOU’RE ONE OF THEM!
You have been spying on me, looking through my MP3s.
I’m doomed...
Well they love it when it can be labeled as a conspiracy...That way anyone with half more a brain than a box of Cheerios that disagrees with the SSP and its supporters can be labeled as kooks, troublemakers, etc etc...
Maybe 230 some odd years was a good experiment, a good run...
Now that we know what can really screw things up over time can be vetted out when we start over...
From what I’ve seen about the proposed super highway is that trucks will not have to stop at the border, or check in with customs until they reach KANSAS!?!? Does that sound like a safe idea to you? Let me know if I am mistaken on this point, as they may have changed this since the last time I read about it a few months back...
There is nothing wrong with keeping eyes and ears open. Those who continually dismiss things that could end up being a problem in the future are not doing themselves, our country, or anyone any good — indeed it could end up being very harmful to the liberty we currently enjoy.
I would like to see some of the people on this thread who are laughing and joking around grow up just a bit, and think outside the box for a SECOND at least... You may be surprised at what you learn. If you don’t agree you can do so respectfully, and point to fact to dispute people’s understanding if it is faulty — their intentions in exposing and discussing these things are not to cause problems, but to avert them.
Your habit of mocking people only reminds educated people of the attempts in history of governments and agitators to deceive the people through misinformation and propoganda. I don’t think that’s your intention, but that is the result.
Trucks will clear customs before they enter the US.
I would like to see some of the people on this thread who are laughing and joking around grow up just a bit, and think outside the box for a SECOND at least...
Sorry, I strictly operate inside the sanity box.
Your habit of mocking people only reminds educated people of the attempts in history of governments and agitators to deceive the people through misinformation and propoganda.
Sorry if I mock the moonbats, they just make it so easy.
If the tinfoil hat fits, wear it.
The EU’s only claim to fame is the Euro. America should pay more attention to Europe’s failed union, before trying to meld with Mexico and Canada.
I have all sizes...I’ll send you one...
But if you wish to be more discrete, I can send you a complementary “tin-foil” ribbon that shows you care...
;-)
Unless it is your ancestral home that is going to be obliterated to build it. (Just ask Arthur Dent...) ;-)
Ok, it’s out I am a member of the Bavarian Illuminati...
Oh, wait, that’s the BMW car club ...
Yes, it's sad when your house is lost to a road, or a hyperspace bypass, or a school, or a police station. Sad is different from a conspiracy.
I’m too damn old to recognize any of those three, but thank you anyway.
So you are conspiring against them huh...
You see that’s where it all gets started...
Speaking of that, have you tried the food at that new diner Lone Star and Barf were talking about.
Sorry all that high minded Sci Fi stuff makes me think of Spaceballs...
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