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The Divide between Catholics and Evangelicals
Center Street Baptist Church ^ | 7/17/2007 | Hirsh Chizever

Posted on 07/30/2007 11:07:50 AM PDT by Bosco

As a pastor I’m often asked, "What’s the real issue that divides Catholics and Evangelicals?" Many cite the adoration of Mary, prayers to the saints, and for some it’s papal authority. While these topics can be troublesome for Evangelicals, the fundamental difference lies in our understanding of the cross itself. In a recent series of documents, Pope Benedict XVI clearly brought this cross-centered difference to the forefront when he said,

Protestant, Lutheran and other Christian denominations ... were not true churches but merely ecclesial communities and therefore did not have the “means of salvation.” The other communities “cannot be called 'churches' in the proper sense” because they do not have apostolic succession -- the ability to trace their bishops back to Christ's original apostles -- and therefore their priestly ordinations are not valid...." [1]

Without any ambiguity, the Pope has strongly affirmed the centuries old error that salvation is distributed by the church and not imparted as a gift by Christ Himself (John 10:27-30). The goal is not to pick a fight with the Pope; but to highlight the effectual difference in the way both Catholic and Evangelical theologies approach the cross of Christ.

The difference between Catholics and Evangelicals may best be summed up by answering two simple questions, what did Christ accomplish at the cross and how do we receive the benefits of His work? [2] Evangelical theology teaches that Christ died for our very salvation (Rom 5:8; 1 Cor 15:1-8); and that we receive the benefits of Christ’s death simply by faith (Eph 1:13; Jn 1:12-13). Catholic theology teaches that Christ died only for the possibility of our salvation; and that we receive the benefits of Christ’s death not by faith alone, but as heavenly merit distributed by the Catholic Church through the sacraments. This sacramental system is what the Pope refers to as the "means of salvation." [3]

In contrast to Catholic theology, the Apostle Paul made it clear that God imputes or charges the righteousness of Christ to the believer based solely on trust in the finished work of the Savior (Rom 5:18-19; 2 Cor 5:21; Eph 2:8-9). In the Catholic view of salvation, the finished work of Christ is propped-up by a man-made system that awards grace incrementally; thus infusing the faithful with righteousness that can be gained or lost based on human merit.

Any view of salvation that incorporates human merit can never exclude boasting, a core problem in the Catholic perspective (Eph 2:9). The one who properly works the sacramental system is in a cooperative effort with God for his salvation; in effect, reaching up to God while God reaches down. Genesis Chapter 3 clearly teaches that since the fall of man all humanity is born spiritually dead. A cooperative effort in salvation is like recruiting a new sports team from the local cemetery or a dead man in the emergency room reaching for his own defibrillator paddles (Eph 2:1-7; Rom 3:10-18). In contrast to the Catholic perspective, Evangelical theology embraces this dead condition and rests solely in the grace of God; whereby God reaches down to dead sinners who cannot and will not reach upward. In the end, the Evangelical perspective ascribes all glory in salvation to God alone.

Despite the Pope’s affirmation of a centuries old error, each generation must consider what Christ accomplished at the cross and how we receive the benefits of His work. So what’s the real issue that divides Catholics and Evangelicals? Answer -- it’s the cross!

Your brother,
Pastor Hirsch



[1] Associated Press, “Pope: Other Christian Denominations Not True Churches.” http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288841,00.html. July 10, 2007.

[2] I first heard these two questions posed by John Hannah, Distinguished Professor of Historical Theology at Dallas Theological Seminary, while attending his lectures on church history in 2003.

[3] For an explanation of the Catholic doctrine of salvation see the Catholic Encyclopedia at

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13295a.htm#IV.t


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After the Vatican paper a few weeks ago, I found this and found it interesting and concise. Author is a completed Jew.

When I became a Christian in the early 80's (former Roman Catholic) the difference contained in the article made the biggest impact in my spiritual life.

If anyone wants details on my spiritual journey, feel free to ask.

1 posted on 07/30/2007 11:07:53 AM PDT by Bosco
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To: Bosco

So you think this is breaking news?


2 posted on 07/30/2007 11:09:14 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Bosco

Is this an open topic for critique?


3 posted on 07/30/2007 11:12:45 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: Bosco

THIS oughtta be fun to watch.


4 posted on 07/30/2007 11:12:53 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: OpusatFR
Was it posted in the 'Breaking News' section?

It wasn't there as of a few seconds ago from this post.

5 posted on 07/30/2007 11:14:14 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: OpusatFR
So you think this is breaking news?Are you seeing this in the Breaking News section? I don't. Or are you being glib?
6 posted on 07/30/2007 11:15:01 AM PDT by GreenAccord
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To: tgusa
Looks as though it's a furball about to happen.

'disingenuous' was already put in the keyword place. And the thread post is only about 8 minutes old.

7 posted on 07/30/2007 11:15:42 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Bosco
You were a Christian when you were a Catholic. It sounds as if you were poorly Catechized and made no effort to learn anything about the faith that was handed down to you.

By the way, did you ever expend the effort to read the Catechism?

8 posted on 07/30/2007 11:16:00 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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Thanks for the post Bosco....

This is "breaking news" to a lot of people who are confused about the differences...

9 posted on 07/30/2007 11:16:28 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

“Was it posted in the ‘Breaking News’ section?”

My mistake. I’ve always considered the news portion of the forum “breaking” rather than religious.


10 posted on 07/30/2007 11:16:33 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Bosco

All comments about the Pope’s attack on Protestants will be viewed as Catholic bashing.


11 posted on 07/30/2007 11:16:42 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Bosco

Are you implying that Catholics aren’t Christians?


12 posted on 07/30/2007 11:16:52 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

It’s happening. Hang on .....


13 posted on 07/30/2007 11:17:18 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Bosco
When I became a Christian in the early 80's (former Roman Catholic)...

Hate to break it to you, pal but we Catholics are considered Christians too.

14 posted on 07/30/2007 11:17:25 AM PDT by Bigoleelephant (Lawyers are to America what lead was to Rome.)
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To: Bosco
Without any ambiguity, the Pope has strongly affirmed the centuries old error that salvation is distributed by the church...

Stopped reading right there. Sheesh!

15 posted on 07/30/2007 11:17:32 AM PDT by LisaFab
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To: OpusatFR

Sounds to me that this guy wants to divide all religions even further and his opinion is Gospel. He brings everything down to the “Cross”, forgetting everything else about Christ’s life and teachings. This guy is missing the boat entirely. If one were to believe this, one could totally stop their education about Christ and his teachings. Even within the Catholic Church, they always enforce the idea of continuing education. Can this guy explain why the people in those times spoke in parabels? Does he understand why things were done in the bible the way they were. I have the feeling he can’t.


16 posted on 07/30/2007 11:18:01 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Bosco

Heck fire...I’m just glad that “Il Papa” properly separated us Lutherans from the rest of the “protestants”. (Although for the wrong reason...)

Ephesians 2: 8-10


17 posted on 07/30/2007 11:19:58 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: GreenAccord

“Or are you being glib?”

I’m never glib. Much too easy.

Sarcastic, nasty, picky and wry, yes, but never, never, never glib.


18 posted on 07/30/2007 11:20:14 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Roman Catholics can be Christians, but not all Roman Catholics are necessarily Christian. The same with evangelicals, other Protestants, Orthodox, etc. They may or may not be Christians. Only God has that information.

And faith is not passed down by genes, it is something between the individual and God--though the probability of a Christian arising out of a Christian household is higher than a Christian coming from a non-Christian background, though there are plenty of those, too.

19 posted on 07/30/2007 11:20:28 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: OpusatFR
So you think this is breaking news?

When the Pope makes a derogatory statement about Protestants, it makes breaking news. Now a minister defends his religion against the Pope and it's not breaking news?

20 posted on 07/30/2007 11:21:12 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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