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1 posted on 07/30/2007 1:24:40 PM PDT by r-q-tek86
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SShhhh. Other liberal papers like the AJC might be forced into reporting this if it gets out that the nyt did it. :)


2 posted on 07/30/2007 1:27:00 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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Damn! It must be going pretty damn good if the fishwrapper is reporting it.


3 posted on 07/30/2007 1:28:48 PM PDT by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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It's positioning.

If a Democrat is elected in 2008, as the NYT hopes, that Democratic President will have to face the grownup reality that we cannot simply leave Iraq on January 22, 2009.

The NYT is saying nowthat the Iraq can be won, so they can credibly claim that a Democrat actually won the war at some point in the future.

Spin: "After years of Republican mismanagement and failure, a progressive administration has figured out a way to win this war and bring our troops back home."

4 posted on 07/30/2007 1:28:53 PM PDT by wideawake
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Hmmm. I wonder what their ulterior motive is. It can’t just be to tell the truth.


5 posted on 07/30/2007 1:30:14 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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They’re (libs) prepping the political battlefield.

They know the facts in Iraq have not/never did support their bashing of Bush...so...they are laying the groundwork for a democratic presidential candidate who supported the war (before she didnt) to run...geeee...I wonder who that was...


6 posted on 07/30/2007 1:30:27 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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We could have won this thing outright in about 2 years, maybe less, had our guys not been forced to fight with one hand tied behind their backs. I blame that directly on GWB.

But nobody in the White House gets this. And I mean nobody.


7 posted on 07/30/2007 1:31:06 PM PDT by navyguy (tax)
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Well something is up in the MSM.The good news is maybe our troops can finish their mission. And Democrats are not operating out of a vacuum. They have intell or something that tells them the surge is working and they are CYA move here. Time will tell.


9 posted on 07/30/2007 1:31:54 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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I wonder if Hillary made some calls and said: “I’m getting beat over the head by Obama on that dang vote for the war so I now want you all to report the truth about it and take away his argument. Once I get the nomination and I’m running against a Republican you can go right back to your regular gloom-and-doom reporting.”
10 posted on 07/30/2007 1:33:15 PM PDT by Gator101
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We have to get the public ready for the victory which is inevitable once the Democrats control the war.


11 posted on 07/30/2007 1:33:21 PM PDT by webheart
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60 second ad of the Democrats stating how the war is lost, interspersed with media headlines the war is lost.

End of commercial “Democrats and the Media are losers.”

then

“Republicans were for winning, before winning was cool”


15 posted on 07/30/2007 1:35:27 PM PDT by listenhillary (¿Qué parter DE "illegal" ousted no entente?)
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Yeah, but it isn’t clear if “we” refers to Al-Qaeda or the U.S. Since it’s the NYT it’s safest to assume the former.


16 posted on 07/30/2007 1:39:08 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Bestowing kindness on the evil visits cruelty on the good.)
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Dems know if they win the White House they are going to inherit this war, and won’t be able to play politics of blaming the republicans for the fact they aren’t withdrawing...

So now the spin will be, war is going better.... why we can’t leave etc etc...

Until election day, if an R wins the spin will go right back to we can’t win... if its a D, then well its obvious we are winning can’t quit now.

Amazing the group that has ZERO credibility at all can declare an adminstration has none....

Funny, seems to me the previous administration bald face lied to the american people.. not political rhetoric but bald face lied ... and you seemed to think they had credibility.

The MSM by and large is an abject joke.


17 posted on 07/30/2007 1:39:18 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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The liberals play down the war, accept it is going well enough to be in the bag, then focus the American people on domestic issues.

War = Republican President in 08
Domestic Agenda = Democrat President in 08


18 posted on 07/30/2007 1:39:20 PM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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Twilight Zone episode perhaps???....


19 posted on 07/30/2007 1:40:03 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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I’m glad Bush isn’t repeating the disastrous mistakes Truman made.

In 1945, the US freed South Korea from Japan.

In 1949, President Truman withdrew our troops from S. Korea.

In 1950, North Korea invaded South Korea and occupied much of the country.

In 1950, Truman sent US troops BACK to fight in Korea. Truman told the American people, via a radio address, that the US roops were going to fight a police action against bandits.

From June 1950 to January 1953, (the remaining 30 months of Truman’s presidency) 30,000 Americans died in Korea and the severest censorship in memory was imposed on US correspondence out of Korea.

*****The Korean War would not have taken place if Truman had not withdrawn our troops from South Korea. *****

We should have maintained a strong presence in South Korea, just as we did in Germany and Japan.

We should maintain a strong presence in Iraq.


23 posted on 07/30/2007 1:42:55 PM PDT by syriacus (If the US troops had remained in S. Korea in 1949, there would have been no Korean War (1950-53).)
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The libs know that serious progress is being made and that Gen. Petraeus will be reporting results that cannot be dismissed.

Staying on the wrong side of this will turn the public against them and they’ll have no out from being branded as the losers they are.


25 posted on 07/30/2007 1:45:49 PM PDT by vietvet67
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I think the MSM learned (through leaks) that PM Brown of the UK was going to praise America's efforts against terrorism.

They realized they couldn't swim against the tide of positive news out of Iraq and public support of Bush by Brown.

28 posted on 07/30/2007 1:50:06 PM PDT by syriacus (If the US troops had remained in S. Korea in 1949, there would have been no Korean War (1950-53).)
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It’s a start. Now how about an apology to the Commander-in-Chief for the shameless pummeling they gave him in the press over the last four years. How about a hat-in-hand, “you-were-absolutely-right” apology. . . .

I’ll wait.


29 posted on 07/30/2007 1:51:47 PM PDT by Juan Medén
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The NYT did a poll and found out more people than ever supported the original invasion. They couldn’t believe the results and took the same poll again. Same results.

When they start openly trashing Hillery, we’ll know something is up.


30 posted on 07/30/2007 1:53:27 PM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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".....How extraordinary to read this in the New York Times."

Not really, the Times is just hedging its bet.

35 posted on 07/30/2007 2:06:52 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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