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Study: Many Boomers Lack Retirement Fund
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070730/boomers_savings.html?.v=2 ^

Posted on 07/30/2007 7:31:07 PM PDT by traumer

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To: Choose Ye This Day

Spouse says 2 more years.


81 posted on 07/30/2007 9:56:04 PM PDT by FrogMom
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To: Smokin' Joe

Great point about the marriages.. my family knows a number of people who should be filthy rich, but divorces in midlife meant they had to rebuild, and now they are just going to make it for retirement.


82 posted on 07/30/2007 9:56:58 PM PDT by ran20
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Of course, we could BE retired if we didn’t involuntarily give half of everything we earn to the big pig trough in the sky.


83 posted on 07/30/2007 9:59:42 PM PDT by FrogMom
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To: ran20

The slight problem is they all have the same plan, and the younger generation doesn’t have much money.

You’re exactly right. A lot of us are counting on the younger generation to come along and bail our butts out of the boat and it may not happen !!!


84 posted on 07/30/2007 10:00:10 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: FrogMom

Yowch. I hope it wasn’t a huge percentage drop in the whole nest egg. It’s never fun watching it go down shortly before you need to use it.

Ever listen to this guy, Ray Lucia?
http://www.businesstalkradio.net/weekday_host/Archives/rl.shtml

He has an excellent, common-sense financial planning radio show (and a new book) that is specifically geared toward people that are about to retire.

You may enjoy it. (Then again, you may not.)


85 posted on 07/30/2007 10:00:20 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Ask not what you can expect from life; ask what life expects from you. -- Viktor Frankl)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Will give it a look, thanks!


86 posted on 07/30/2007 10:01:54 PM PDT by FrogMom
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To: Obie Wan

Where in any part of this thread did I bring up taxation or a vampiric lust for more of it?

How is pointing out that many boomers will be tapping their built up home equity to fund their retirement an attack on free-market capitalism or cheerleading for taxation?


87 posted on 07/30/2007 10:05:10 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

If you could address #77.


88 posted on 07/30/2007 10:06:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Choose Ye This Day
you know sonny, the mortgage interest rates were like 10% back in the 80's and early 90's.......

many items were out of the question for a lot of us....prices are much lower now for you youngins, like calculators, which used to run up to $100 for a tiny little thing, or color tv's or microwaves and vhs players....

so some of we boomers paid high for household goods, paid high interest rates, lost pensions, lost retired medical benefits, exp. enormous property tax rates, and most of us didn't get breaks for our kids in college because we made slightly more than the poverty level.....

things weren't fair for us and won't be in the future...things won't be fair for you neither.....live with it...

89 posted on 07/30/2007 10:06:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

You will be fine, no need to be worried.

One rule of thumb I’ve seen is that if you’ve accumulated 2 years gross salary in your 401k by your early 40s, you will have enough to basically maintain your standard of living with that money alone at the normal retirement age of 65.

If your income permits might I also suggest a Roth, where you can save for retirement, or anything else. All contributions can be accessed for any reason, and earnings can be used for higher education or first-time home buying.

I’m planning on utilizing the substantially equal periodic payments exception to access my retirement accounts without penalty, hopefully in my early 50s (but I’ll settle for mid-50s when I’ll only have one child left still in college.) C’mon son, get that scholarship! LOL


90 posted on 07/30/2007 10:11:07 PM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: cherry

EXACTLY what I wrote, Ma’am. Some things were better then, some things are better now.

Some things were worse then, some are worse now.

For every thing the government “giveth” with one hand, they find a way to “taketh” something else with the other.

That’s why I say that it’s silly to assert that the Boomers are THE most-taxed generation ever.


91 posted on 07/30/2007 10:11:56 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Ask not what you can expect from life; ask what life expects from you. -- Viktor Frankl)
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To: Publius6961
I notice no great effort is made to define "comfortable".

There was an article in the New York Times a few weeks back about how $1 million in retirement savings was no longer enough to finace a "comfortable" retirement and the new standard was that you needed to have saved $5 million by age 65.

92 posted on 07/30/2007 10:13:22 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Choose Ye This Day
There was AMT, but it only nailed a very few people. But marginal tax rates were much higher, and usually only the wealthiest could get the writeoffs.

I was fairly poor at the time of the last tax code and I sure remember saving up all of those sales tax receipts. I hated to conform my private and work life to the tax code and welcomed the Reagan revolution. I assure you that many of us were far from being the "wealthiest", however everyone who worked enjoyed numerous tax deductions.

As far as AMT is concerned you are correct that it was around. It effected a handful of people, where as now days it effects millions. The millions that it effects are those very people who are older and are in the most financially productive years of their lives.

I think this is something you should ponder. Ponder the situation where those who should be saving for retirement are now caught up in the worst form of tax taking. Also ponder these are the very same people who are of age to send their kids to college (no financial aid because of income) and also of the age where they are in many cases taking care of their parents. If you are an honest person you will admit that the tax code in many ways is far worst than the previous generations.
93 posted on 07/30/2007 10:13:57 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: dragnet2

Sure, prices did go up in Florida, and probably more so than in Indiana.

But who says he’s moving to Florida? What if he wants to stay in Indiana where his family members are? And what if he wants to get a smaller house or even a condo, so he doesn’t have to mow the lawn? then, he makes out well.

Even if he DOES move to Florida (or Arizona, or wherever), maybe by buying a SMALLER house or condo, he’ll still come out ahead, even with housing appreciation in the retirement areas.

He shouldn’t make a move if it’s not advantageous for him to do so. But if it is, that retiree may benefit from such a move.


94 posted on 07/30/2007 10:16:56 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Ask not what you can expect from life; ask what life expects from you. -- Viktor Frankl)
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To: PA Engineer

I agree with all...but I also think that far too many Boomers allowed the educational establishment to hoodwink them into thinking that parents must go broke paying for their kids’ college education.

Heck, no. Whatever my kids don’t get covered by scholarships, they can work and take out loans, like I did. And state school is just fine. I’m not hocking my wife’s and my financial future paying for a bunch of liberal know-nothings to try to indoctrinate my kids.


95 posted on 07/30/2007 10:22:31 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Ask not what you can expect from life; ask what life expects from you. -- Viktor Frankl)
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To: FrogMom
My retirement fund lost 7K last week. I’m STILL crying!

So now it's back to the level it was at the end of June. Duh. Don't fret the minor fluctuations in the market. How is it doing compared to where it was five years ago?

96 posted on 07/30/2007 10:23:53 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: dragnet2

Mr. Boomer plans to stay in Indiana and face what options Mr. Boomer has is one of many options.

If retirement savings and social security will cover the bills. Then thats fine.

If it won’t cover, then the food, medical, gas, and housing bill money will have to come from somewhere. (Continues to work, children sending money, reverse mortgage, etc, etc....)

The issues facing boomers and retirement can be very different depending on savings, region, and demographics. I know that.


97 posted on 07/30/2007 10:23:53 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
But who says he’s moving to Florida?

The other poster did. He implied that many boomers are retiring to Floriida and Arizona. Here are some quotes.

>>>we need to allow million of illegal immigrants into our country each year because they will eventually pool their money together and buy the homes retiring boomers need to unload.... and that they'll be moving to places like Florida and Arizona.<<<<

98 posted on 07/30/2007 10:24:54 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: PA Engineer

worst=worse


99 posted on 07/30/2007 10:25:27 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: FreedomCalls

If your planning on retiring to the Hamptons, probably.


100 posted on 07/30/2007 10:25:53 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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