Posted on 07/31/2007 9:15:42 PM PDT by goldstategop
some nice history and analysis - thanks very much for the post.
some nice history and analysis - thanks very much for the post.
Are you saying that the attacks on the Jews did not happen?
Americans, if they’re doing their job, being “american”...will always be hated by the rest of the world. We’re the rejects from most countries...the guys who won’t put up with the $%it going down locally. Historically, most places have been HAPPY to be rid of us, as we challenge the local status quo. The liberal left is delusional if they ever think the rest of the could or should “love” us...because fundamentally the rest of the world is a MESS!!
Yes, that is the case. Lefties hate religious conviction because they fear it I think.
If I may practise a bit more amateur psycology, another reason these types support Pally terrorists may be because they see the same childlike rage and weakness that they see in themselves.
I say maybe, I may be wrong.
The left tends strongly towards atheism and do have a strong aversion to Christianity and Judaism. Both Marx and Engels scornfully rejected the religions of their fathers. There is a (small?) religious left in America. I find the sincerity and depth of their religion so be suspect.
Several posts challenge Medved’s view that the left hates the military. Maybe he is right locally but not universally. Certainly America’s left has had disdain at best for the military since the 60s. In WWII, our military fought the same Hitler who had attacked Stalin. The left supported our military then. Given their way on all things, I think the left would prefer a police state to a military that merely resisted external threat.
Lately, I’ve been thinking about the topic of envy and of coveting the belongings of others. Banish this and one banishes the Democratic party and socialism in general.
God is used by Leftists when it is convenient.
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He’s probably right about the animus of the left... but not the Arabs. Islam has traditionally been spread by the very simple concept of “my god can beat up your god.” That’s the mentality behind the bedouin tribal conflicts and it survives to this day. That is why you never hear Islamists acknowledge defeat. Everything is a setback... until they can rearm and try again. See Saddam for one recent example.
Israel represents the most awful catastrophe that could have happened... Jews won. To not contest this victory until one side or the other ultimately capitulates is religious anathema. To suggest that it was more than a setback is to suggest that their religion (and their god) isn’t the strongest... and that creates far too many inconvenient truths for them.
Socialist Jews thought that Arabs would be willing to trade land for "progress" but Zhabotinsky knew better. They were "a people, not a rabble" and would never trade their birthright for a few shekels. Sure, the Jews of the time were buying the land (for the most part)...but what that meant was that rich Jews were buying it from rich absentee Turks. Poor Arab tenant farmers were then evicted or forced to work for people they really didn't like.
Jewish members of the first aliyah complained about poor treatment by their Arab neighbors but by 1890 that had reversed and Ahad Am (spelling) wrote tellingly about mistreatment of Arabs by Jews.
Fact is, different cultures and religions do not mix well. That's true historically worldwide.
The parallel is not exact because laws and customs of the Ottomans at the time were different but rich Turks saw a chance to make money and enlightened officials thought Jews might bring progress and wealth to a backward area, but the poor saw nothing of the sort - only suffering and humiliation in exchange for a little money.
I saw something similar in Guatemala in 1974...just before the revolution.
Because of oil, and the power of its wealth. Period.
LOL. There's some truth to this. But were muslims pro-American, the left would trot out their "Ignoble-Uppity Savage, Unable-to-Understand-Where-He-Belongs" exception to the "Noble Savage" rule. This rule is normally reserved for folks like Clarence Thomas.
That muslims typically have brown or black skin is a big plus for them in the lefty handbook. But pro-Americanism would override that in a moment.
Joy in other people's success?
These are the same liberals who call the people of Kansas "savages" and loudly proclaim their defense of "reason" from "primitive superstition."
Leftists need to cut down ANY pillar of society other than their beloved "state". Like Nero, they want to burn it all down in order to rebuild it to their own specifications.
What they (fascists/muslims/leftists/etc) really hate is individual freedom. Individual freedom and the desire to protect that liberty is what gives us our remarkable military. Belief in a loving and compassionate God who forgives the penitent makes us strong.
Hate driven by fear and jealousy is what Satan’s minions are full of. And make no mistake, Satan is right in the middle of that fear and loathing.
I believe anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism is rooted in the resentment of America and Israel as "artificial" nations whereas every other nation on the face of the earth emerged organically from its sacred mother soil.
Look at how far "right" the Left has gone. Instead of attacking nationalism and stressing the unity of all workers the Left now celebrates the most recidivist and mystical forms of nationalism. "Afrocentrists" regurgitate the old Nazi claim that "Ve infented Zivilisation!" Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, and even Marcus Garvey (!!!) are now embraced by the "left." The religions of the "oppressed nations" are exempt from Marx' withering critique (which is reserved for that of the "foreign devil") and instead celebrated (see Kenny Bunk's post about the "noble savages"). "Indigenousness" (called "autochthony" by the far right) now trumps all other considerations (especially economic ones). Even the Soviet-supported "wars of national liberation" subordinated class to national identity much as Mussolini's class collaboration did. In fact, almost every nationalist movement of the nineteenth century in which long conquered nations wished to reassert their sovereignty and identity were socialist! Contrary to popular belief, socialism is not at all inherently international or inimical to nationalism. In fact, from the perspective of history, anti-nationalist international socialism is the departure from the socialist norm.
And it isn't just non-whites who benefit from the new Leftist nationalism, even today. Ireland, perhaps the most white, chr*stian, northwestern European country in the world (unless you want to count Iceland) has had its nationalism celebrated by the Left for over two hundred years (the same Bolshevik Russian government that outlawed Zionism as "bourgeois" endorsed an independent Ireland). In fact, there doesn't seem to be a "rightwing" Irish nationalist movement in existence at this time.
But hold on! The Irish are the most obvious beneficiaries of Leftist blood and soil worship among white chr*stian Europeans but they're not the only ones! Every Celtic group (the Scots, the Welsh, the Bretons, and even the Cornish) all have nationalist movements that identify with the Left. The Scottish National Liberation Army, a Maoist organization, basically advocates "ethnic purity" for Scotland by threatening to run every "Englishman" out of the country--despite the fact that the Angles arrived in what is now Scotland a century before the Scots did! The Basque terrorist ETA's name translates as something on the order of "Basque Home and Fatherland," which doesn't seem very class-conscious. And even the French-Canadians of Quebec, who can hardly be said to have emerged from the bosom of that land, are also the beneficiaries of Left nationalism.
It's too dang bad the Louisiana Cajuns are associated with the South (one form of white nationalism the Left doesn't endorse-yet). I can see a map of the vast original Louisiana Territory (as purchased from France) emblazoned with the words "Restored Socialist Louisiana!!!" (Outside Israel and America, "socialism" seems to mean nationalism and militarism whereas here and in Israel it implies wimpiness and self-loathing).
European neo-Nazis are avowedly in favor of a "planet of peoples," meaning a world of "organic" nations living in their own homelands and creating their own equally valid worldview in their own image. They contrast this with the "rootless, cosmopolitan, capitalistic Judaeo-American" worldview. Neo-Nazis actually join Leftist marches against America and Israel for this reason. The leftists still treat them like pariahs, though from their own ideology it's hard to understand why. In fact, Francis Parker Yockey (the author of the neo-Nazi "classic" Imperium and mentor of Willis Carto) actually aligned himself with the Communists in the Fifties when they came out against Israel and advocated a Nazi-Communist alliance against "Judaeo-America" (he also visited, and was welcomed by, Communist dictator Gamal Abdel Nasser). It seems that the old bastard was merely ahead of his time.
But even this isn't the whole picture. If you look closely enough you will see that the great "crime" of the Jews and Judaic America is to remind the world of where it came from. There is no such thing as an "autochthonous" or "indigenous" people. Everyone came from somewhere else. In fact, the only human being in history who literally emerged from the soil was 'Adam HaRi'shon! Jewish and American "rootlessness" remind the world of this fact and of the True G-d Who created Adam and to Whom we owe our loyalty and obedience. The rest of the world wishes to forget the Objective G-d and Objective Truth and create subjective national myths for themselves--they want to pretend they emerged from their mystical mother soils and that they each have their own "gxd" whose "chosen people" they are. No wonder such fanatical national subjectivists react to the open "rootlessness" and Biblicism of Judaism and America with horror and hatred.
Well that's my theory, y'all. I've entertained it for some time. And the behavior of the Left has done nothing but reinforce it.
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