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Illegal Aliens Declare War on the United States
www.townhall.com ^ | August 1, 2007 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 08/01/2007 1:31:42 AM PDT by givemELL

While the current administration, as well as Democrats and Republicans in Congress, focus on the war on terror and the war in Iraq, a greater real-time threat to our way of life and the rule of law in the United States, is manifesting itself just down the road a bit from the White House and the Capitol building . In Prince William Country, Virginia, illegal aliens have just basically declared war on the county, law and order, and the very livelihood of innocent Americans. They have done so, and no one in Washington really seems to care.

In the upside down world that is now our nation, these illegal aliens are outraged that the county is now trying to stem their overwhelming influx and the crushing burden their mass migration imposes on already strained county services. As hard as it may be to believe, these illegal aliens and their supporters, have become so enraged that the county is trying to uphold the law, that they have decided to attack the county on a number of levels.

Just last week, thousands of illegal and legal Hispanics living in the county met to plan their response to the rule of law. Voting with raised fists, they decided to punish the county trough a boycott of non-immigrant businesses, a labor strike, and a lawsuit. Town by town, city by city, county by county, these illegal aliens and the far left lawyers that are eagerly facilitating their lawsuits, plan to chip away at the sovereignty of the United States. And as they do, many of our elected officials and leading “news” organizations, are cheerleading them on from the sidelines.

Before the supporters of this illegal invasion demonize me, let me say again, that I am married to a Hispanic-American, I speak Spanish, and am not threatened one bit, by the culture. In fact, I think legal Hispanic immigrants add much to the fabric of our nation.

Illegal immigration however, represents a growing threat to our nation in a number of areas. Not the least of which, being crime. As an example, the police and people of Houston, Texas, are now dealing with organized gangs of illegal aliens from Mexico who are carrying out “express kidnappings” of the local citizens.

An “Express Kidnapping” being when someone is snatched off the street, driven to an ATM to drain their account, forced to have a family member bring down any money or valuables in the home as ransom, and then many times, still shot in the head and left by the side of the road. My wife’s family has fallen victim to a number of these kidnappings.

“Express Kidnappings” have been perfected in Mexico City, Caracas, Venezuela, and a number of large South American cities, and are now being exported to our nation. If you have not heard of them, don’t worry, they will soon be coming to your town.

In closing, the message from these illegal aliens and their supporters could not be more clear. “If you dare try to uphold the laws of your nation, state, county, or town, we will sue you, bankrupt your legal business, go on strike against you, and broaden our borders deeper into your nation. And we will do all of this with the assistance of your federal politicians, your mainstream media, and your lawyers. We will wait you out and we will win.”

Win they may because no one is coming to the rescue. The federal government has abandoned us on this issue. Those politicians are selling their souls for votes that will never come.

Your only hope -- our only hope -- is that state and local officials will make a principled stand against this lawless invasion. If not, the United States of America may soon become but a faint memory.


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aliens; corruption; crime; declare; illegal; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; noamnestyforillegals; princewilliamco; war
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To: bcsco

For your AFIRE ping list


101 posted on 08/01/2007 9:33:04 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: nicmarlo
I sent this to our local television station. Thought I’d waste some electrons, maybe if I do it enough times they’ll get the hint... Suffering the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, thinking about taking up arms against a sea of trouble..
102 posted on 08/01/2007 10:02:22 AM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: marty60

“Then masybe then, people will understand just how important this issue is. Now that is pretty pathetic, it takes the death of innocent Americans to get Washington to take notice.”

Since the borders have intentionally been left unsecured since 9/12, I doubt even another terrorist attack would matter. I do believe, at that point, we would be sold a bill of goods on the need for perimeter security of the continent instead. CFR’s North American Union agenda.


103 posted on 08/01/2007 10:04:49 AM PDT by Kimberly GG (JUST SAY NO TO THE CFR - Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: WildcatClan

“There are few that realize just how quickly we can turn into a 3rd world cesspool.”

One silver lining... more people across the country realize it now that they have seen their own cities change completely in just a few years. Also, this is personal - their homes, their greatest investment, being threatened - not just something you’re reading about that’s happening thousands of miles away.


104 posted on 08/01/2007 10:12:41 AM PDT by Shazolene
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To: givemELL

All politicians that give illegals aliens official sanctuary or local aid should be arrested by ICE for aiding and abetting lawbreakers. That means mayors of major cities.


105 posted on 08/01/2007 10:20:08 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: marty60
And just think Houston (where I use to live) is a sanctuary City.

The former Los Angeles (now Tijuana Norte) is also a huge sanctuary city, with a midget Mexican for a mayor.

I believe events in this area will someday lead to a new civil war. Our "senators" and most of our "reps", and also our "governor" do not seem concerned as long as they sit behind gates in their perfumed seats.

106 posted on 08/01/2007 10:59:13 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Shazolene

“One silver lining... more people across the country realize it now that they have seen their own cities change completely in just a few years.:

In 6 years, illegals have spread from California, to Tennessee to Boston......probably close to 10 million in 6 years.


107 posted on 08/01/2007 10:59:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: kabar

BUMP


108 posted on 08/01/2007 11:01:53 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: janetgreen

“Our “senators” and most of our “reps”, and also our “governor” do not seem concerned as long as they sit behind gates in their perfumed seats.”

They have the money to leave if things get too bad.


109 posted on 08/01/2007 11:03:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: givemELL
I speak Spanish, and am not threatened one bit, by the culture.

Well good for you but I certainly am. That is a major part of the problem. From the criminality, to the socialistic nature of most Hispanic countries, to the Spanish language which is overrunning everything etc etc. This idea that we have no culture and any will do is complete BS and partially what is destroying this country.

110 posted on 08/01/2007 11:08:21 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: hedgetrimmer; Czar; calcowgirl; AuntB

FYI. A very interesting thread.


111 posted on 08/01/2007 11:13:48 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: hedgetrimmer; Czar; calcowgirl; AuntB

FYI. A very interesting thread.


112 posted on 08/01/2007 11:14:03 AM PDT by texastoo ((((((USA)))))((((((, USA))))))((((((. USA))))))))
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To: nicmarlo

Bookmark!


113 posted on 08/01/2007 11:19:55 AM PDT by yorkie
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To: Malesherbes

I picked up on that as well, and thought how successful these pro-illegals are in getting us on the defensive by making us think that we must precede our comments with a “some of my best friends are . . .” disclaimer. It’s about time we stopped that. I wrote the author in that same vein.

I like Victor Davis Hansen’s reply to the “Racist!” cry - “That slur is SO pre-911.” I can’t wait to use it.


114 posted on 08/01/2007 11:32:06 AM PDT by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Altura Ct.

” From the criminality, to the socialistic nature of most Hispanic countries, to the Spanish language which is overrunning everything etc etc. This idea that we have no culture and any will do is complete BS and partially what is destroying this country”

Amen!!


115 posted on 08/01/2007 12:03:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: nicmarlo
Thanks for posting all that information, nic. I copied and pasted it and sent it to everyone on my e-mail list.

Knowledge is power, and this information needs to get out. Most of the "news" people are deaf and dumb.

116 posted on 08/01/2007 12:32:29 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: givemELL; All

Good article, great thread. Thanks to all contributors. Another BTTT!


117 posted on 08/01/2007 1:51:19 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: marty60

Unfortunately, I am afraid you’re right . . .it will take another terrorist attack to wake people up.


118 posted on 08/01/2007 2:00:38 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: givemELL
Aztlan keeps growing and growing....


119 posted on 08/01/2007 2:08:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: PGalt

Must reads!!...Contrast the printed article below with another wonderful piece by Fjordman on why the EU must GO: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2266/print

Bush OKs ‘integration’ with European Union
Congress never asked about new obligation
Posted: May 8, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

President Bush

President Bush signed an agreement creating a “permanent body” that commits the U.S. to “deeper transatlantic economic integration,” without ratification by the Senate as a treaty or passage by Congress as a law.

The “Transatlantic Economic Integration” between the U.S. and the European Union was signed April 30 at the White House by Bush, German Chancellor Angela Merkel – the current president of the European Council – and European Commission President José Manuel Barroso.

The document acknowledges “the transatlantic economy remains at the forefront of globalization,” arguing that the U.S. and the European Union “seek to strengthen transatlantic economic integration.”

The agreement established a new Transatlantic Economic Council to be chaired on the U.S. side by a cabinet-level officer in the White House and on the EU side by a member of the European Commission.

The current U.S. head of the new Transatlantic Economic Council is Allan Hubbard, assistant to the president for Economic Policy and director of the National Economic Council.

The current EU head of the council is Günther Verheugen, vice-President of the European Commission in charge of enterprise and industry.

(Story continues below)

The Transatlantic Economic Council was tasked with creating regulatory convergence between the U.S. and the EU on some 40 different public policy areas, including intellectual property rights, developing security standards for international trade, getting U.S. GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Practices) recognized in Europe, developing innovation and technology in health industries, implementing RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) technologies, developing a science-based plan on bio-based products and establishing a “regular dialogue” to address obstacles to investment.

At a joint press conference, Bush thanked the other two leaders for signing the “trans-Atlantic economic integration plan,” commenting that, “It is a recognition that the closer that the United States and the EU become, the better off our people will be.”

Barroso said the Transatlantic Economic Council is meant to be “a permanent body, with senior people on both sides of the Atlantic.”

As WND has reported, Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez repeatedly has pushed for North American integration, much as the April 30 agreement proposes closer U.S.-EU integration.

Mexico’s ambassador to the U.N., Enrique Berruga, has called for a North American Union to be created in the next eight years.

But the Bush administration’s push for North American integration is facing increasing opposition within Congress.

WND reported Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., has introduced House Concurrent Resolution 40, which opposes the administration’s Security and Prosperity Partnership, blocks a NAFTA Superhighway System and expresses opposition to the U.S. entry into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

WND also has reported a movement led by Phyllis Schlafly of Eagle Forum has led to an increasing number of state legislatures proposing resolutions opposing a North American Union.


120 posted on 08/01/2007 2:33:36 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: singfreedom

Illegals are as bad as herion to American businesses. They paid all these illegals c**p to come in and take Americans jobs, now look at the housing market. Now that Americans are having trouble hanging on to their homes. Who are they going to sell the houses to, $3.00 hour illegals. AHHHH, what is that saying. Revenge is a dish best served cold. Well it’s small confort, but there is some justice.


121 posted on 08/01/2007 3:27:46 PM PDT by marty60
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To: janetgreen

How true, The politicians ride around in Limo’s. They don’t have smell, see, or fear the underground anarcy that most Americans deal with every day. ESPECIALLY in Sancuary cities.


122 posted on 08/01/2007 3:34:23 PM PDT by marty60
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To: nicmarlo
Outstanding summary of the width and length of the illegal alien scourge upon America, courtesy of our very own federal government.

Hang on to your data.

123 posted on 08/01/2007 3:36:30 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

Were these the figures? I got these from the www.michaelsavage.com website on official illegal immigrant ‘contribution’ statistics...

ILLEGAL ALIEN “CONTRIBUTIONS” TO THE U.S.
2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants

CRIME
95 % of Warrants in LOS ANGELES are for ILLEGAL ALIENS
83 % of Warrants for MURDER in Phoenix Arizona are FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS
86 % of Warrants for MURDER in Albuquerque New Mexico are for ILLEGAL ALIENS
75 % of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix, Albuquerque are ILLEGAL ALIENS
24.9 % OF ALL INMATES in California detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY
40.1 % of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican Nationals here ILLEGALLY
29 % (630,000) Convicted ILLEGAL ALIENS felons fill our state and federal prisons at the cost of $1.5
Billion Annually
53 % Plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas
are perpertrated by ILLEGAL ALIENS
50 % Plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are ILLEGAL ALIENS
71 % Plus of all apprehended Cars stolden in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California were
stolden by ILLEGAL ALIENS or “Transport Coyotes “
47 % of cited / stopped Drivers in California have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the
vehicle of that 47 %, over 92 % were ILLEGAL ALIENS
63 % of cited / stopped Drivers in Arizona have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for the
vehicle of that 63 %, over 97 % are ILLEGAL ALIENS
66 % of cited / stopped Drivers in New Mexico have NO License, NO Insurance, and NO Registration for
the vehicle Of that 66 %, over 98 % were ILLEGAL ALIENS

BIRTHS
380,000 Plus “ANCHOR BABIES” were born in the U.S. in 2005 to ILLEGAL ALIEN PARENTS, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S. Citizens 97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid for by American taxpayers.
66 % OF all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid by taxpayers

HOUSING
300,000 plus illegal aliens in Los Angeles Country are living in garages
Nearly 60 % of all occupants of HUD properties in the United States are illegal aliens.

TV & RADIO STATIONS
14 out of 31 TV stations in L.C. are Spanish only16 out of 28 TV stations in Phoenix are Spanish only
15 out of 24 TV stations in Albuquerque are Spanish only 21 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish only
17 radio stations in Los Angeles are Spanish only 17 radio stations in Albuquerque are Spanish only

SCHOOLS
34% plus of Arizona students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 24% plus are non-English speaking
39% plus of California students in grades 1-12 are illegal aliens and 42% plus are non-English speaking
In Los Angeles County, 5.1 million people speak English - 3.9 million speak Spanish

SOCIAL SERVICES
43 % of all Food Stamps issued are to illegal aliens
41 % of all Unemployment Checks in the United States are to illegal aliens
58 % of all Welfare payments in the United States are issued to illegal aliens
Less than 2 % of illegal aliens are picking crops but 41 % are on welfare

POPULATION
Over 70% of the U.S. annual population growth (and over 90% of CA, FL, and NY) results from immigration

EMPLOYER PROFITS
The estimated profit to U.S. corporations and businesses employing illegal aliens in 2005 was more than 2.36 trillion

TAXES
62 % of all “undocumented immigrants” in the U.S. are working for cash and not paying taxes, predominantly illegal aliens are working without a green card
The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 (last known calculation by Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University) was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay), $70 Billion per year. [What are the 2006 costs?]
The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average illegal alien is $55,000 cost to the American taxpayer in a 5-year span. You personally pay $11,000 every year to illegal aliens.
JOBS (per Center for Immigration Studies - September 2006): Between 2000 and 2005, 4.1 million immigrant workers arrived in the U.S., accounting for 86% of the net inrease in the total number of employed persons (16 & older), the highest share ever recorded in the U.S. Of the 4.1 million, between 1.4 and 2.7 million are estimated to be illegal aliens. Also, between 2000 and 2005, the number of young (16 to 34) native-born men employed declined by 1.7 million - at the same time, the number of new male immigrant workers increased by 1.9 million. [Do you still believe the gov’t employment rate stats?]
ACTION: Please share this data with elected officials, particularly those who spew the PCBS about all the “contributions of illegal aliens to our society” AND “our economy would collapse without them”! However, NONE of this will matter IF our borders are not secured OR Pres. Bush succeeds in abolishing them (via his SPP, NAU, NAFTA Hwy), and illegal alien murders, drug smugglers and terrorists continue to be welcomed into our country


124 posted on 08/01/2007 3:47:44 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: indylindy

Thank you, indylindy. Bump for reading tonight.


125 posted on 08/01/2007 3:49:10 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

This thread is one of the most informative yet. Our new FReeper has shared some very enlightening posts.


126 posted on 08/01/2007 3:58:11 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: nicmarlo

Indeed and it is not only a financial cost. The very essence of what an American is, our history, our culture and even our familes and posterity is at stake here.


127 posted on 08/01/2007 3:59:05 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: givemELL

I beleive that is it time for patriotic Americans to start taking the law into our own hands since our own government will not protect us. We are the most civilized country in the world and our tolerance and our generosity will be our downfall. If Americans are’t willing to fight to keep our country then we dont deserve to keep it. Illegal immigrants are counting on the fact that Americans will just sit their with our mouths shut while our country is taken away right under ournoses.


128 posted on 08/01/2007 4:03:09 PM PDT by Buffettfan (3rd Battalion, 6th Marines - 1971 - 1974)
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To: indylindy; nicmarlo
Our new FReeper has shared some very enlightening posts.

Oh, great!

We just got back from the Navajo Reservation, and even up there, people are talking about the border problems. I couldn't believe it - I didn't start the conversation - they did! We went up there to get away from the illegal aliens, but apparently that's not possible anymore...

129 posted on 08/01/2007 4:06:36 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Altura Ct.

WE are in an advanced stage of dissolution at all levels as a nation-state...Saudi Arabia has just purchased for over $11 bil GE plastics, one of our national security, militarily valued companies..We have already been appraised, delivered, sliced and diced, and now, we are assigned to brokers for distribution. It is very, very late in the game...we, as a public have never seriously entered the game...many, many hands have already been played. Still, the public response over the legislative aspect at the national level was heartening and bodes well for the future of the interests of the US public..most people do not desire to go the way of a sheep in Montana, and, at the same time be shorn of everything they hold dear as a national culture. This thread has been a big surprise for me with regard to the interest it has generated as well as the appreciated quality of the replies and contributions it has generated....eom


130 posted on 08/01/2007 4:13:30 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL
As WND has reported, Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez repeatedly has pushed for North American integration, much as the April 30 agreement proposes closer U.S.-EU integration. - Mexico’s ambassador to the U.N., Enrique Berruga, has called for a North American Union to be created in the next eight years.

With all these Mexican demands, I want to know what WE (the Americans) get in return from Mexico? Like most Americans, I'm sick to death of donating to Mexico, who always has its hand out.

131 posted on 08/01/2007 4:15:48 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: givemELL

Correction..’the public response over the legislative aspect at the national level’ is in relation to the immigration issues recently in Congress which the public responded to en masse with positive effect...we can still do it!


132 posted on 08/01/2007 4:17:37 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: janetgreen

But, they have given us their people, their culture...the INS and the FBI know (none from the 29 ruling families, of course).
The ‘contributions’ are extensive. We apparently are not grateful enough. NY state leads the pack with ‘gratefulness’...get this..http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1869660/posts


133 posted on 08/01/2007 4:24:47 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: Buffettfan

Buffet had great finesse, so do old people...before taking the law into ones own hands, guide the law to the right response and action...here is a true event reported from Meridian, MS..lots of common sense there...HOW TO CALL THE POLICE WHEN YOU’RE OLD AND DON’T MOVE FAST ANYMORE.
>
> George Phillips of Meridian, Mississippi was going up to bed when his
> wife told him that he’d left the light on in the garden shed, which she
> could see from the bedroom window.
>
> George opened the back door to go turn off the light but saw that there
> were people in the shed stealing things.
>
> He phoned the police, who asked “Is someone in your house?” and he said
> “no”. Then they said that all patrols were busy, and that he should
> simply lock his door and an officer would be along when available.
> George said, “Okay,” hung up, counted to 30, and phoned the police
> again.
>
> “Hello, I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people
> stealing things from my shed Well, you don’t have to worry about them
> now because I’ve just shot them.” Then he hung up.
>
> Within five minutes three police cars, an Armed Response Unit, and an
> ambulance showed up at the Phillips’ residence and caught the burglars
> red-handed.
>
> One of the Policemen said to George: “I thought you said that you’d shot
> them!”
>
> George said, “I thought you said there was nobody available!”
>
> (True Story) - Don’t mess with old people!!


134 posted on 08/01/2007 4:30:33 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL; AuntB
No, but yours add nicely to the rest of the illegal alien horror story.

Thanks.

And welcome to Free Republic.

135 posted on 08/01/2007 4:38:19 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: givemELL

LMAO! Shared it with my hubby.


136 posted on 08/01/2007 4:46:33 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Oatka

I agree wholeheatedly. This is a very good point. It is also the insidious nature of PC. Without even realizing it we have succumbed to the effects of it. We have all been indoctrinated to be “careful”. It doesn’t matter weather it is true or not only the appearance of it. In addition what happens is the accused is held to a different standard then the accuser. Hypocricy abounds. IMO it has made us into cowards who would rather avoid be labeled a “hater” then stand up for our country and way of life. They know this and manipulation is easy when concern for labels overides everything else and free speech is often checked for political correctness. Every time we react with the examples given we are playing into the hands of the OBL or race-baiters in general.


137 posted on 08/01/2007 4:52:31 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Borax Queen
We went up there to get away from the illegal aliens, but apparently that's not possible anymore...

Sorry, its the same way here anymore. It took more time for it to get bad, but the effects have been terrible on the ER's and schools. Not to forget that the gangs, murder, and drugs are up and it has destroyed our police force.

Now I feel bad for pinging you. You go away to get away from it and now you get some more of it here!

138 posted on 08/01/2007 4:52:58 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: Travis McGee

Yup, they are growing and growing, and, you know what?...they have an insatiable appetite..they publicly state they want your land, your house, your car, your job, your assets, your identity, as well as pics of you heading out..the territory they want is on a diagonal from Northern CA to Houston, TX..they are a mature organization dedicated to removing ALL European,especially Anglo-Saxon culture from the area. They are prepared for violence when they are ready. I know that you know this from your post..just thought I would describe what the people in your picture are all about..eom


139 posted on 08/01/2007 4:55:50 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

I largely agree with what you said.

“most people do not desire to go the way of a sheep in Montana, and, at the same time be shorn of everything they hold dear as a national culture.”

I hope you are right. I sometimes have my doubts. I don’t know for sure if we still have the blood of patriots like Washington, Jefferson, Henry, Travis, Bowie, Crockett et al still running through our veins.


140 posted on 08/01/2007 4:58:40 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: givemELL

I’m on a first name basis with the Cops who patrol my neighborhood ($750k to get in) and some of the DTs at the Pct. This was a ‘nobody locks his doors’ town but now they tell me they are seeing a steady increase of burglaries by ‘hispanic males’. These break-ins spike every summer now. The appearance of day-laborers mowing folks’ backyards is just a coincidence, I’m sure.


141 posted on 08/01/2007 5:02:32 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Altura Ct.

We still have some, they have mostly volunteered in the services already..if we could only see more of them in the media..more are here..by education deprivation they have suffered, however, with regard to ‘who we are and where we come from’ (THe Last Samu.rai)....but there really are enough..we are not bereft of fine leaders..they will appear..there are actually many waking up In this regard, Britain has completely, in the last month, eliminated Churchill, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin from their ‘high school’ curricula..nothing like erasing history, cleaning the board, and, incidentally, leaving it clean by graduation time with a public reward for having been caught leaving no butt-mark on the seat of any classroom while they were there...eom


142 posted on 08/01/2007 5:11:53 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: DCPatriot
Finally noob....you aren't getting absolution from me just because you supposedly have a Hispanic wife and speak Spanish. It only provides more evidence that you're a troll trying to incite.

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Scores of posts by dozens of freepers and every one of them in support and appreciative of our 'noob'...

Every one but you. To you he is a troll.

You really are in the wrong place.

143 posted on 08/01/2007 5:13:08 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911

wtc911, I am a “newbie”, and I can spell too. Like your moniker. Illegal immigration has exposed us to many growing, undetected dangers we are constantly reminded of by the media..Al-Qaeda, etc. Your ‘wtc911’ brought this to mind..here is an important report from the South Asia Analysis Group headed up by a former cabinet secy of the Indian Govt. re a change in tactics by Al-Qaeda in the West, including the US...it is well that as many readers as possible be aware of a new term to them..Jundallah...here it is...
Paper no. 2303

18.07.2007

AL QAEDA CHANGES TACTICS: TO RELY ON JUNDULLAHS MORE & MORE - INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM MONITOR: PAPER NO. 258

By B. Raman

Al Qaeda has changed its tactics——particularly for its operations in the Western world and other non-Islamic countries such as India.

2. Future operations will be carried out not by organisations such as Al Qaeda itself or by the member-organisations of the International Islamic Front (IIF) formed by it in 1998. They will be planned and carried out by Jundullahs (Soldiers of Allah), who are individual Muslims, self-motivated, self-trained through the Internet and deciding on their targets and actions autonomously without the need for a centralised command and control.

3. The future role of Al Qaeda outside Iraq and Afghanistan would be to indicate targets through the messages of Ayman al-Zawahiri, its No.2, and through the messages of its propaganda wing (As Sahab), and to disseminate, via the Internet, training instructions on the basis of its experience in Iraq and Afghanistan.

4. Let jihadis arise wherever they can and whenever they can. Let them act however they can. There is no need to claim responsibility or credit on behalf of Al Qaeda or any other organisation. That is its message to the potential jihadis across the world.

5. Al Qaeda’s command and control and training infrastructure based in Pakistan’s tribal areas would continue to guide and co-ordinate its operations against Western forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Its leadership wants jihadis in other countries to assist it in its operations in Afghanistan and Iraq by sapping the will of the Western public opinion to stay and fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. It feels time is on its side.

6. The recent video of Al Qaeda’s propaganda wing carrying excerpts from past messages of Osama bin Laden and other Al Qaeda fighters glorifying the Islamic concept of martyrdom has been disseminated in pursuance of this new tactics. “Arise wherever you are and martyr yourself”——that is the hidden message it has sought to convey.

7. The latest video’s central message is: “‘By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to attack and be martyred, then attack again and be martyred, then attack again and be martyred.’”

8. Al Qaeda wants to aggravate the divide between the Muslims and non-Muslims in the non-Islamic world, including the West and India.

9. The more the Jundullahs, the more the suspicion and fear of Muslims in non-Muslim communities. The more the suspicion and fear of Muslims in the non-Muslim communities, the more the Jundullahs. That is Al Qaeda’s calculation.

10. Al Qaeda’s new tactics has to be countered operationally. The only way of doing so is by denying it victory in Iraq and Afghanistan. The time is not for the withdrawal of the Western forces from there. It is for making them more effective than they are today. Al Qaeda has to be made to realise that the time is not on its side, but on the side of the civilised world.

11. There has been too much focus on Al Qaeda’s perceived strengths as one could see from the latest US National Intelligence Estimate released on July 17, 2007. It is important to identify its weaknesses, which can be exploited. It is important to demonstrate that the determination of the international community to co-operate in countering Al Qaeda and other kinds of jihadi terrorism remains as strong as ever and will remain as strong as ever till jihadi terrorism withers away. It is equally important to demonstrate that the national and international consensus on this subject remains as strong as ever.

12. Somehow or the other, Al Qaeda and its jihadi associates are getting an impression that international co-operation, national will and consensus are weakening. This impression has to be removed.

NOTE: This may please be read in continuation of my earlier articles mentioned below:

(a).THE JUNDULLAH PHENOMENON at http://www.saag.org/papers23/paper2211.html

(b).THE JUNDULLAH IN UK? at http://www.saag.org/papers23/paper2285.html

(The writer is Additional Secretary (retd), Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, New Delhi, and, presently, Director, Institute For Topical Studies, Chennai. E-mail: itschen36@gmail.com)

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144 posted on 08/01/2007 5:47:22 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

One example already of this in a nearby town...not AlQaeda, but just an individual nevertheless..there is a Holy structure, a mosque in the town..it is located on Bombing Range Road, a leftover WWII B-17 training field which was gradually approached by progress in the ensuing decades. The founder of the mosque, a well respected man in the community, came from a familiar country in the ME. A son, graduation from this towns high school, about a year and a half-ago, having moved to a larger city, deliberately mowed down with his vehicle as many Semite citizens as he could in front of a well known local civic center..he admitted his action was a religiously motivated deed. AlQaeda is now institutionalizing what has been an individual jihadist approach to terrorism..expect to see it here more frequently, and hope that it does not actually appear more frequently...eom


145 posted on 08/01/2007 5:55:33 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: indylindy

No, I’m so glad you did ping me! Really! I’m just disgusted by how the invasion has spread. Driving through Sedona, we saw large groups of “day laborers.” They close down some formerly beautiful water pools each summer because of all the fecal matter they toss. The aliens were simply everywhere. I think I’ll just hide in my house now :0)


146 posted on 08/01/2007 6:06:29 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: givemELL

The general public is not aware of the Muslim Brotherhood project discovered in a Swiss rain in 1982. The MB was founded in Egype in 1928, became closely associated with Nazism in later years..it is the Godfather of all Muslim terror, extremist organizations on the ‘salafist, wahabbist, sunni’ side of Islam as opposed to the Khomeinist terror side related to Persian Shiites (Iran and its Mullahs)..Sunnis compete with Iranian Shiites for the privelege, honor, holiness, power of establishing the next Caliphate..big internal struggle going on here even as they spar in such a deadly fashion with modernity. The MB is a highly sophisticated organization, firm imbedded in every Western country from small communities to the highest levels of govt. Our first Muslim Congressman, Ellison from Michigan was sponsored by the MB as well as the HAMAS originated CAIR in the US which has so sucessfully functioned with the ACLU in advancing MB causes...here is an old www.frontpagemag.com article detailing the MB....

The Muslim Brotherhood “Project”

By Patrick Poole
FrontPageMagazine.com | 5/11/2006
One might be led to think that if international law enforcement authorities and Western intelligence agencies had discovered a twenty-year old document revealing a top-secret plan developed by the oldest Islamist organization with one of the most extensive terror networks in the world to launch a program of “cultural invasion” and eventual conquest of the West that virtually mirrors the tactics used by Islamists for more than two decades, that such news would scream from headlines published on the front pages and above the fold of the New York Times, Washington Post, London Times, Le Monde, Bild, and La Repubblica.

If that’s what you might think, you would be wrong.

In fact, such a document was recovered in a raid by Swiss authorities in November 2001, two months after the horror of 9/11. Since that time information about this document, known in counterterrorism circles as “The Project”, and discussion regarding its content has been limited to the top-secret world of Western intelligence communities. Only through the work of an intrepid Swiss journalist, Sylvain Besson of Le Temps, and his book published in October 2005 in France, La conquête de l’Occident: Le projet secret des Islamistes (The Conquest of the West: The Islamists’ Secret Project), has information regarding The Project finally been made public. One Western official cited by Besson has described The Project as “a totalitarian ideology of infiltration which represents, in the end, the greatest danger for European societies.”

Now FrontPage readers will be the first to be able to read the complete English translation of The Project.

What Western intelligence authorities know about The Project begins with the raid of a luxurious villa in Campione, Switzerland on November 7, 2001. The target of the raid was Youssef Nada, director of the Al-Taqwa Bank of Lugano, who has had active association with the Muslim Brotherhood for more than 50 years and who admitted to being one of the organization’s international leaders. The Muslim Brotherhood, regarded as the oldest and one of the most important Islamist movements in the world, was founded by Hasan al-Banna in 1928 and dedicated to the credo, “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”

The raid was conducted by Swiss law enforcement at the request of the White House in the initial crackdown on terrorist finances in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. US and Swiss investigators had been looking at Al-Taqwa’s involvement in money laundering and funding a wide range of Islamic terrorist groups, including Al-Qaeda, HAMAS (the Palestinian affiliate of the Muslim Brotherhood), the Algerian GIA, and the Tunisian Ennahdah.

Included in the documents seized during the raid of Nada’s Swiss villa was a 14-page plan written in Arabic and dated December 1, 1982, which outlines a 12-point strategy to “establish an Islamic government on earth” – identified as The Project. According to testimony given to Swiss authorities by Nada, the unsigned document was prepared by “Islamic researchers” associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

What makes The Project so different from the standard “Death of America! Death to Israel!” and “Establish the global caliphate!” Islamist rhetoric is that it represents a flexible, multi-phased, long-term approach to the “cultural invasion” of the West. Calling for the utilization of various tactics, ranging from immigration, infiltration, surveillance, propaganda, protest, deception, political legitimacy and terrorism, The Project has served for more than two decades as the Muslim Brotherhood “master plan”. As can be seen in a number of examples throughout Europe – including the political recognition of parallel Islamist government organizations in Sweden, the recent “cartoon” jihad in Denmark, the Parisian car-burning intifada last November, and the 7/7 terrorist attacks in London – the plan outlined in The Project has been overwhelmingly successful.

Rather than focusing on terrorism as the sole method of group action, as is the case with Al-Qaeda, in perfect postmodern fashion the use of terror falls into a multiplicity of options available to progressively infiltrate, confront, and eventually establish Islamic domination over the West. The following tactics and techniques are among the many recommendations made in The Project:

* Networking and coordinating actions between likeminded Islamist organizations;
* Avoiding open alliances with known terrorist organizations and individuals to maintain the appearance of “moderation”;
* Infiltrating and taking over existing Muslim organizations to realign them towards the Muslim Brotherhood’s collective goals;
* Using deception to mask the intended goals of Islamist actions, as long as it doesn’t conflict with shari’a law;
* Avoiding social conflicts with Westerners locally, nationally or globally, that might damage the long-term ability to expand the Islamist powerbase in the West or provoke a lash back against Muslims;
* Establishing financial networks to fund the work of conversion of the West, including the support of full-time administrators and workers;
* Conducting surveillance, obtaining data, and establishing collection and data storage capabilities;
* Putting into place a watchdog system for monitoring Western media to warn Muslims of “international plots fomented against them”;
* Cultivating an Islamist intellectual community, including the establishment of think-tanks and advocacy groups, and publishing “academic” studies, to legitimize Islamist positions and to chronicle the history of Islamist movements;
* Developing a comprehensive 100-year plan to advance Islamist ideology throughout the world;
* Balancing international objectives with local flexibility;
* Building extensive social networks of schools, hospitals and charitable organizations dedicated to Islamist ideals so that contact with the movement for Muslims in the West is constant;
* Involving ideologically committed Muslims in democratically-elected institutions on all levels in the West, including government, NGOs, private organizations and labor unions;
* Instrumentally using existing Western institutions until they can be converted and put into service of Islam;
* Drafting Islamic constitutions, laws and policies for eventual implementation;
* Avoiding conflict within the Islamist movements on all levels, including the development of processes for conflict resolution;
* Instituting alliances with Western “progressive” organizations that share similar goals;
* Creating autonomous “security forces” to protect Muslims in the West;
* Inflaming violence and keeping Muslims living in the West “in a jihad frame of mind”;
* Supporting jihad movements across the Muslim world through preaching, propaganda, personnel, funding, and technical and operational support;
* Making the Palestinian cause a global wedge issue for Muslims;
* Adopting the total liberation of Palestine from Israel and the creation of an Islamic state as a keystone in the plan for global Islamic domination;
* Instigating a constant campaign to incite hatred by Muslims against Jews and rejecting any discussions of conciliation or coexistence with them;
* Actively creating jihad terror cells within Palestine;
* Linking the terrorist activities in Palestine with the global terror movement;
* Collecting sufficient funds to indefinitely perpetuate and support jihad around the world;

In reading The Project, it should be kept in mind that it was drafted in 1982 when current tensions and terrorist activities in the Middle East were still very nascent. In many respects, The Project is extremely prescient for outlining the bulk of Islamist action, whether by “moderate” Islamist organizations or outright terror groups, over the past two decades.

At present, most of what is publicly known about The Project is the result of Sylvain Besson’s investigative work, including his book and a related article published last October in the Swiss daily, Le Temps, L’islamisme à la conquête du monde (Islamism and the Conquest of the World), profiling his book, which is only available in a French-language edition. At least one Egyptian newspaper, Al-Mussawar, published the entire Arabic text of The Project last November.

In the English-language press, the attention paid to Besson’s revelation of The Project has been almost non-existent. The only mention found in a mainstream media publication in the US has been as a secondary item in an article in the Weekly Standard (February 20, 2006) by Olivier Guitta, The Cartoon Jihad. The most extensive commentary on The Project has been by an American researcher and journalist living in London, Scott Burgess, who has posted his analysis of the document on his blog, The Daily Ablution. Along with his commentary, an English translation of the French text of The Project was serialized in December (Parts I, II, III, IV, V, Conclusion). The complete English translation prepared by Mr. Burgess is presented in its entirety here with his permission.

The lack of public discussion about The Project notwithstanding, the document and the plan it outlines has been the subject of considerable discussion amongst the Western intelligence agencies. One US counterterrorism official who spoke with Besson about The Project, and who is cited in Guitta’s Weekly Standard article, is current White House terrorism czar, Juan Zarate. Calling The Project a Muslim Brotherhood master plan for “spreading their political ideology,” Zarate expressed concerns to Besson because “the Muslim Brotherhood is a group that worries us not because it deals with philosophical or ideological ideas but because it defends the use of violence against civilians.”

One renowned international scholar of Islamist movements who also spoke with Besson, Reuven Paz, talked about The Project in its historical context:

The Project was part of the charter of the international organization of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was official established on July 29, 1982. It reflects a vast plan which was revived in the 1960s, with the immigration of Brotherhood intellectuals, principally Syrian and Egyptians, into Europe.

As Paz notes, The Project was drafted by the Muslim Brotherhood as part of its rechartering process in 1982, a time that marks an upswing in its organizational expansion internationally, as well as a turning point in the alternating periods of repression and toleration by the Egyptian government. In 1952, the organization played a critical support role to the Free Officers Movement led by Gamal Abdul Nasser, which overthrew King Faruq, but quickly fell out of favor with the new revolutionary regime because of Nasser’s refusal to follow the Muslim Brotherhood’s call to institute an ideologically committed Islamic state. At various times since the July Revolution in 1952, the Brotherhood has regularly been banned and its leaders killed and imprisoned by Egyptian authorities.

Since it was rechartered in 1982, the Muslim Brotherhood has spread its network across the Middle East, Europe, and even America. At home in Egypt, parliamentary elections in 2005 saw the Muslim Brotherhood winning 20 percent of the available legislative seats, comprising the largest opposition party block. Its Palestinian affiliate, known to the world as HAMAS, recently gained control of the Palestinian Authority after elections secured for them 74 of 132 seats in the Palestinian Legislative Council. Its Syrian branch has historically been the largest organized group opposing the Assad regime, and the organization also has affiliates in Jordan, Sudan, and Iraq. In the US, the Muslim Brotherhood is primarily represented by the Muslim American Society (MAS).

Since its formation, the Muslim Brotherhood has advocated the use of terrorism as a means of advancing its agenda of global Islamic domination. But as the largest popular radical movement in the Islamic world, it has attracted many leading Islamist intellectuals. Included among this group of Muslim Brotherhood intellectuals is Youssef Qaradawi, an Egyptian-born, Qatar-based Islamist cleric.

As one of the leading Muslim Brotherhood spiritual figures and radical Islamic preachers (who has his own weekly program on Al-Jazeera), Qaradawi has been one of the leading apologists of suicide bombings in Israel and terrorism against Western interests in the Middle East. Both Sylvain Besson and Scott Burgess provide extensive comparisons between Qaradawi’s publication, Priorities of the Islamic Movement in the Coming Phase, published in 1990, and The Project, which predates Qaradawi’s Priorities by eight years. They note the striking similarities in the language used and the plans and methods both documents advocate. It is speculated that The Project was either used by Qaradawi as a template for his own work, or that he had a hand in its drafting in 1982. Perhaps coincidentally, Qaradawi was the fourth largest shareholder in the Al-Taqwa Bank of Lugano, the director of which, Youssef Nada, was the individual in whose possession The Project was found. Since 1999, Qaradawi has been banned from entering the US as a result of his connections to terrorist organizations and his outspoken advocacy of terrorism.

For those who have read The Project, what is most troubling is not that Islamists have developed a plan for global dominance; it has been assumed by experts that Islamist organizations and terrorist groups have been operating off an agreed-upon set of general principles, networks and methodology. What is startling is how effectively the Islamist plan for conquest outlined in The Project has been implemented by Muslims in the West for more than two decades. Equally troubling is the ideology that lies behind the plan: inciting hatred and violence against Jewish populations around the world; the deliberate co-opting and subversion of Western public and private institutions; its recommendation of a policy of deliberate escalating confrontation by Muslims living in the West against their neighbors and fellow-citizens; the acceptance of terrorism as a legitimate option for achieving their ends and the inevitable reality of jihad against non-Muslims; and its ultimate goal of forcibly instituting the Islamic rule of the caliphate by shari’a in the West, and eventually the whole world.

If the experience over the past quarter of a century seen in Europe and the US is any indication, the “Islamic researchers” who drafted The Project more than two decades ago must be pleased to see their long-term plan to conquer the West and to see the Green flag of Islam raised over its citizens realized so rapidly, efficiently and completely. If Islamists are equally successful in the years to come, Westerners ought to enjoy their personal and political freedoms while they last.


147 posted on 08/01/2007 6:08:03 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

Darn the typos..it is a ‘Swiss raid’, not rain.


148 posted on 08/01/2007 6:09:28 PM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: givemELL

bttt


149 posted on 08/01/2007 6:36:54 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: givemELL

This is what happeneds when our feckless politicians make these illegals feel as though they count and we as Americans owe them something. GET OUT THE BUSES AND SHIP THEM ALL BACK! They are in MY country ILLEGALLY! If the politicians put up a stink send them and thier families with the illegals! IM SICK OF THIS PANDERING NONSENSE!


150 posted on 08/01/2007 6:41:14 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (I'd rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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