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1 posted on 08/01/2007 6:20:19 PM PDT by SelectiveJNJ
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Just like NO... “it’ll never happen here, so let’s buy some new toys for our city/county/state”.


2 posted on 08/01/2007 6:21:50 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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Quite possible — bear in mind that “functionally obsolescent” could be something as simple as having lane widths which are less than how we would build on a similar bridge today.


3 posted on 08/01/2007 6:23:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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All those road taxes and fuel taxes went WHERE ?


4 posted on 08/01/2007 6:24:05 PM PDT by ikka
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Not to be too skeptical, but the standard questions apply:

1. What was the sample size (or a census?)
2. Do the authors have a financial interest in the outcome?
3. Who funded the study?


5 posted on 08/01/2007 6:26:04 PM PDT by ovs.in.texas
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Pelosi’s and Reid’s fault.


7 posted on 08/01/2007 6:28:26 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (RINO cleaner - the backbone restorer)
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This ceratinly is a new report, but the results are the very same as the reports when I was a kid in the 1960’s, 40 years ago.

I remember that one clearly, as I had to cross a very small bridge regularly, and went down to examine it myself. It looked OK to me way back then. I must have been right, it’s still in use.


11 posted on 08/01/2007 7:07:17 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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Just ask the drivers in Minneapolis.


15 posted on 08/01/2007 7:13:29 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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Right off the bat, I noticed that “structurally deficient or functionally obsolete” statement, too. Gee, does that sound like weasel wording.

Even “structurally deficient” could mean anything from “near critical failure”, to “fails in one inspection area—excessive rust on 1 bolt”.

But “functionally obsolete” takes the cake as being meaningless gobbledygook. The function of a bridge is to bridge something. If it is properly doing that, it is functional.

Obsolete, on the other hand, is not based on what the bridge is doing, but what you want to do with it. Obsolescence just means that you are no longer satisfied with what it is, you want it to do something it currently cannot. Something becomes obsolete with the stroke of a pen.


17 posted on 08/01/2007 7:24:04 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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The use of NaCl to melt ice and snow for 40 or 50 years
on a bridge IMO had an effect on the structual integrity.


18 posted on 08/01/2007 7:30:20 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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Yes but how many years can we extend the useful lives of these Bridges if we go back to Horse and Oxen for Transportation?

Green Living will set us Free! Praise ALGORE!!!

Besides Hillary is going to take from us, to make everything Perfect anyway, I assume since she is perfect, bridges are in her plan, everyone knows her plan is perfect and covers every contingency, she just won’t tell anyone except Joe Biden and she pillow talks a little to Janet Reno whose little Girl friends pass a little off to Bill when they are not having non sexual relations (understand that regular sinks are a big turn off to the Ex).

Seriously though Politicians have squandered Money that has been allotted or set aside for Bridge Replacement, County Commissioners etc have had control over those funds, granted sometimes areas grow faster than projected and new Bridges need to be built, but... increased Population Pays for it, moving Money Around is “THE” Politicians Shell Game and they need to be charged, convicted and punished (execute two or three like they do in China and you will probably get their attention), short of that you get the Government that you deserve.

TT


20 posted on 08/01/2007 7:42:56 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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Great....


21 posted on 08/01/2007 7:50:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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More and more billions upon billions are spent each year on welfare and badly spent on “education” yet our infrastructure systems are falling apart.

Here in Colorado we had one Democrat governor after another spend more and more on welfare and education while stealing monies from infrastructure. We finally got Republican Bill Owens in office and he immediately got us the T-REX, or I-25, project in place, and many other projects. Funny thing was that all those previous Democrat governors said they couldn’t do such a thing.


29 posted on 08/01/2007 8:17:12 PM PDT by CodeToad
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Bricks and Mortar are not flashy enough for the politcians.


32 posted on 08/01/2007 8:28:11 PM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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I’ve been watching the local Fox coverage where the bridge collapsed...they keep saying things like this doesn’t happen here...they happen in other states. I couldn’t believe these people...the attitude was shocking...


33 posted on 08/01/2007 8:29:12 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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Here is the next Interstate bridge that will probably fall into the water. 
The old I-10 bridge in Lake Charles, LA

This bridge is old, built in the 50s, is steep, shakes, they cannot
keep light bulbs burning because the vibration  burns out the bulbs,
scary to cross, is rusted, has way more traffic than it was designed
for, and was weaken by hurricane Rita. 
 


34 posted on 08/01/2007 8:31:47 PM PDT by Ramtek57
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U.S. Infrastructure Found to Be in Disrepair
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1830529/posts May 9, 2007

Is aging infrastructure slowing the U.S.?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1857078/posts 06/27/2007


38 posted on 08/01/2007 9:12:41 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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And why is that? They have money for maintanence, but just you watch.

They are going to call for a ‘public/private’ partnership with some foreign company like Macquerie or Cintra, because Americans can’t afford to build their own highway bridges. To make it worth their while, the foreign company is going to charge tolls with a guaranteed return by the US taxpayer.

You wait and see.


39 posted on 08/01/2007 9:15:30 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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What’s the date on this survey?

It’s White Paper.


43 posted on 08/02/2007 2:19:19 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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Can you imagine NY’s bridges falling down and the two tunnels? At what age will these crumble? Those structures are VERY OLD.


44 posted on 08/02/2007 2:20:18 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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Nothing lasts forever... especially outdoors.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

46 posted on 08/02/2007 3:58:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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