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To: neverdem
It's simple--we sat back while the liberals brought up a generation of kids to expect government to GIVE them stuff.

No one here at FR would give up their Social Security check, I'll wager. Even we've gotten comfortable with the government regulating our money and our lives for us.

I am very, very pessimistic about not only the 2008 election (I've written off the Repubs already), but--

I'll just avoid all the silly posts about "bringing us down" and "quitting," which is what one gets from the those wearing rose-tinted glasses around here. You get the gist.

2 posted on 08/03/2007 12:32:08 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (PRO-FRED (Use all caps--it bugs the Fred-haters ;))
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To: Darkwolf377
No one here at FR would give up their Social Security check, I'll wager. Even we've gotten comfortable with the government regulating our money and our lives for us.

It's not like anyone was given a choice about this system... well some President somewhere did suggest changes but many at FR seemed to have other priorities at the time and didn't bother hammering Congress over THAT issue. Snooze you lose, I guess.

9 posted on 08/03/2007 2:17:03 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Darkwolf377
"No one here at FR would give up their Social Security check, I’ll wager. Even we’ve gotten comfortable with the government regulating our money and our lives for us."

This bill cuts medicare for seniors to help pay for the expansion of health insurance for children up to 25, so I guess that seniors are giving up part of their SS benefits.

19 posted on 08/03/2007 3:59:31 AM PDT by kjhm
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To: Darkwolf377

“It’s simple—we sat back while the liberals brought up a generation of kids to expect government to GIVE them stuff.”

1) *I* am not raising liberal kids. I hope.
2) We need school CHOICE, and any conservative who is against school choice is unwittingly for the future socialist America.
3) The best way to fight that expectation is to fight that reality. Be against any and all welfare programs.

“No one here at FR would give up their Social Security check, I’ll wager.”

I would, so long as you stop taxing me on it too.


I am very, very pessimistic about not only the 2008 election (I’ve written off the Repubs already), but—”

Pessimism is unwarranted. History hasn’t been written. This is an awful awful Congress, that is taxing and spending worse than any congress in a long time. Their incompetence is unprecedented and the badness of the bills passed is incredible.

With such a bad Congress, we have the opportunity to get people to WAKE UP and see how voting Democrat is bad for the country.

“I’ll just avoid all the silly posts about “bringing us down” and “quitting,” which is what one gets from the those wearing rose-tinted glasses around here.”

Telling people not to quit is not a ‘rose-tinted glasses’ comment. That is simply Success 101 - Winners never quit. You only fail if you give up trying.


31 posted on 08/03/2007 11:36:07 AM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: Darkwolf377
No one here at FR would give up their Social Security check, I'll wager.

I hope you have a lot of money to lose.

I'm 48 years old, It would be a no brainer to get out the dollars I put in without any interest back and invest it myself.

I would do it in a heartbeat

35 posted on 08/04/2007 4:56:11 AM PDT by Popman (I removed my Bushbot brain chip after he didn't veto the McCain Feingold election anti freedom bill)
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