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To: Liz

Liz, should you run, you have my vote. :) I posted on my local board that we should not squander the Shamnesty momentum and keep on the pressure till they build the fence and get serious about enforcing our laws. No one even responded to my comment. I don’t get the rightful anger in opposing Shamnesty and then the seemingly lax attitude towards 12-20 million illegals. FYI, I think 12-20 is inaccurate and am not really sure how they could know as these are, “illegals” we are speaking about here. The numbers I see myself in Smalltown, USA and rural areas tells me 12 million is far from accurate. In my opinion, it is at least 24 million and possibly 30. I have had some of the same ideas you have had and some with slight differences. It’s my opinion that anytime an illegal is caught, either sneaking into the USA or in the interior, or commits a crime, Mexico should get the bill along with the understanding it will be deducted from any US aid they might receive. Also any costs associated with illegal inmates should be billed to Mexico. 9-11 was tragic and horrible and required a firm response, but with the borders practically wide open, just how secure are we really? I have suggested a database with the fingerprints of all illegals caught in the interior and trying to sneak in at the border. If you’re in the database you are automatically disqualified for US citizenship, visas, etc. I would wonder how many US citizens have been killed (DWI) or murdered (homicide) by illegals since 9-11. I know the number would be high and one is one too many. I have to question how “secure”, Homeland Security truly is when Chertoff can’t even get a fence built.


45 posted on 08/03/2007 2:25:21 PM PDT by WildcatClan (Hunter '08)
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To: WildcatClan; Kevmo; Tennessee Nana; Mrs.Nooseman; nicmarlo; stephenjohnbanker; indylindy; ...
Here's a repost of FReeper KEVMO's excellent suggestion:

RICO — Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO).

The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations. Here’s what I’ve been pushing: it’s time to file Racketeering, Influencing, and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) lawsuits. RICO lawyers could turn it around in a few years and MAKE MONEY at the same time. I’m surprised they haven’t done it already.

In the absence of enforcement, we can get the word out in the meantime that there is money to be made in filing RICO lawsuits against employers who hire illegal aliens. Employers would have no trouble shutting down the border if they could get sued by someone under the RICO statutes for hiring these people in the first place.

CASE IN POINT When an illegal alien kills someone in a drunk driving accident, the victim’s family would file under RICO statutes to seek compensation from the illegal's employer.

If this catches on, we would see a swift backlash against illegal immigration; no employer would go near them; illegals would have no recourse but to return home.

(Other violations of law would apply under RICO since they are (a) done in groups and (b) exhibit a "pattern:"

1 - Invaders' using illegal ID or documents

2 - Invaders' Federal income tax evasion

3 - Re-entry into USA after deportation

4 - Obtain/Operate vehicles with illegal ID

5 - ID theft/fraud - Social Security fraud

6 - Knowingly gaining employment fraudulently

7 - Recruiting other illegal aliens workers

8 - Transporting illegal aliens across the border

9 - Harboring &/or housing illegal aliens on American soil

10 - Endangering Americans by undermining US national security

11 - Registering/Voting using fraudulent documentation

12 - Conspiracy to violate federal statutes

13 - Uttering false statements to public officials

14 - Obstructing law enforcement

15 - Sham marriages to avoid deportation)

48 posted on 08/03/2007 3:35:39 PM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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