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Western Wildfires Update: Hundreds near Calif. fire ordered out
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/3/07 | AP

Posted on 08/03/2007 9:43:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

LOS OLIVOS, Calif. - A huge wildfire grew significantly in a national forest Friday night, raining ash on communities miles away and forcing hundreds of people to evacuate their rural homes and campgrounds.

The month-old fire in northern Santa Barbara County has burned an estimated 38,000 acres — or 60 square miles — and was 70 percent contained. However, fire officials said the blaze had grown during the day.

"We got additional wind on it today and the fire started burning more actively midmorning," said Kathy Good, Los Padres National Forest spokeswoman. "Now it's headed south-southeast."

Told to evacuate were 300 people in 160 homes, 300 people from five campgrounds, 75 children and 12 staff members from Los Prietos Boys Camp, and an unknown number from an RV camp, said William Boyer, a county spokesman.

No homes were immediately threatened, Boyer said, but evacuation was ordered because "the way the fire is moving, we want to give them enough time to get out."

The fire was burning through heavy vegetation, which is "generating a lot of smoke and ash that's extending over to Santa Barbara and Montecito, basically to the coast," Good said.

The area is crowded with thousands of visitors for Santa Barbara's annual Old Spanish Days Fiesta.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was in the area and declared a state of emergency in the county to free up state resources for fighting the fire.

The blaze was started July 4 by sparks from equipment repairing a water pipe. To date, the fire has cost about $42.8 million to fight.

Firefighters battled blazes across the West and another in New Jersey.

In southwestern Montana, 25 houses threatened by a wind-whipped fire were ordered evacuated about 20 miles from Philipsburg, said Karen Semple, a fire information officer. The houses are east of a 2,400-acre fire, she said.

Other residents north of Helena who fled a 49-square-mile fire Thursday night were allowed to return to their homes. But the Lewis and Clark County sheriff told them to be prepared to leave again.

Crews had contained 33 percent of the fire burning in the Gates of the Mountains Wilderness since July 21. Fire managers hoped progress achieved during the week would not be reversed as forecasts called for 35 mph gusts, said Cheryl Larsen, a fire information officer.

"We've had a window of opportunity the last couple of days to make some good advances, continuing construction of the fire line and fortifying it," Larsen said.

In Washington state, at least 400 firefighters were being deployed to battle the nearly 500-acre blaze sparked by a helicopter crash on Thursday, fire information officer Scott Crawford said. Four people died in crash about 60 miles east-southeast of Seattle on the east slope of the Cascade Range.

"We have one way in and one way out, which is a big safety challenge," he said. "There's going to be a super focus on safety in fighting this fire."

The fire was not immediately threatening any buildings. An unoccupied cabin sits about a mile away.

In Idaho, fire crews contained a blaze that had scorched more than 1,000 square miles and forced the evacuation of two small towns near the Nevada line. No homes were destroyed, fire officials said.

Hot, dry conditions persisted as crews fought 13 other large fires that had burned 600 square miles across the state, including a fast-moving fire in northern Idaho. It grew to 100 acres — less than a fifth of a square mile — by Friday evening but forced the evacuation of several homes, officials said.

Another fire torched 3,000 acres — about 4.7 square miles — in a remote corner of the Wharton State Forest in New Jersey. Fire officials could not estimate when the blaze might be contained, but no homes have been threatened.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: Idaho; US: Montana; US: New Jersey; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: california; hundreds; lospadres; wildfires
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1 posted on 08/03/2007 9:43:25 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Have you heard of the Boeing-Weyerhauser Cardboard Boxes filled with waterballoons that fly like parachutes?


2 posted on 08/03/2007 9:53:30 PM PDT by JohnA
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To: NormsRevenge

Something else for the Forest Service to putz with for a decade or longer.


3 posted on 08/03/2007 9:54:39 PM PDT by JohnA
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To: JohnA

errata:

Weyerhaeuser


4 posted on 08/03/2007 9:56:28 PM PDT by JohnA
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To: JohnA

No. news to me.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 9:57:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: NormsRevenge

http://www.knbc.com/news/13816562/detail.html


6 posted on 08/03/2007 9:58:24 PM PDT by JohnA
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To: NormsRevenge
Weyerhaeuser, a paper company with thousands of acres of trees, says they'll use it on their own forest until the government catches up.

The Martin-Mars (6600 USG), North America's largest waterbomber, was developed along the same lines and owned/used by big BC forestry corporations with an option on govt to use in dire emergencies. It's a Humphrey Bogart-era plane.
7 posted on 08/03/2007 10:01:53 PM PDT by JohnA
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To: NormsRevenge

Fire fighting is a blank check from the goverment...there are no limits on how much can be spent. When I was a firefighter, I often heard phrases like “ Where there’s smoke, there’s money.” and “every lightning flash means cash.”

Now, after 9-11, firefighters are treated like heroes...even if they don’t deserve it and are total slackers.

Add this attitude with a blank check from congress and couple it with unnatural forest fuel loads due to gov’t mismanagement - or in other words, no management at all ( benign neglect) due to environmentalist lawsuits, - and we have the perfect recipe for catastrophe.

All I can say is that I hope your house is not sacrificed for the greater good.


8 posted on 08/03/2007 10:04:17 PM PDT by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: NormsRevenge

Must be something in Montecito and Santa Barbara! I’m in Ventura 25 miles down the coast, and at 6 the smoky clouds from the north were low over this part of town, clouding over the sun.


9 posted on 08/03/2007 10:07:18 PM PDT by Moonmad27
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To: JohnA

Thanks! whatever it takes to put out the fire.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 10:15:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: forester

Correction: Greater Good should be in paranthesis because that is not my thoughts...they are the thoughts of the Sierra Club and nature conservancy who always respond “ It’s a shame that all those houses burned up, but gee whiz, they should never have been built in the wilderness.”

This is such crap. This line is often applied to 100 year old structures.

I ask you: why is it that after a hundred years that these houses are suddenly deamed : “shouldn’t be there”?


11 posted on 08/03/2007 10:16:54 PM PDT by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is what it would take but the Forest Service will fight this for another 12 years and it doesn't look all that promising politically.
12 posted on 08/03/2007 10:18:24 PM PDT by JohnA
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The Ilyushin 76 tanker

Huge “payload” for sure,, but like you say, the West may be burning for years before it flies here.


13 posted on 08/03/2007 10:21:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: NormsRevenge

Associated Press hangs up the ‘phone.


14 posted on 08/03/2007 10:22:51 PM PDT by JohnA
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To: NormsRevenge
OTOH, if things get really, really, really bad, there is always this.
15 posted on 08/03/2007 10:24:22 PM PDT by JohnA
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Here’s a good resource for tracking fires...

http://www.nifc.gov/fire_info/nfn.htm


16 posted on 08/03/2007 10:26:43 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: JohnA

I don’t know about that flying.. ;-)


17 posted on 08/03/2007 10:27:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: NormsRevenge

The EU’s environment man is trying to put a disaster response package together. So Europe may have better firefighting sooner than the mighty USA if/when that happens. If this year’s successes are any measure it will be largely based on Russian firefighting aircraft.


18 posted on 08/03/2007 10:34:09 PM PDT by JohnA
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More power to them,, they need it too, quite a few fires on the Continent these days..


19 posted on 08/03/2007 10:35:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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Governator's been briefed on the IL-76 waterbomber.

It would be good if he'd just call in the Russians but the DC-10 is back so, politically, it needs to be given another chance. I hope nobody gets hurt.
20 posted on 08/03/2007 10:38:48 PM PDT by JohnA
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