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America: A socially engineered society -- defend liberty by running for office
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 8/4/07 | Henry Lamb

Posted on 08/04/2007 12:47:38 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Fifty years ago, the term "social engineering" referred to government policies that forced people to live as government dictated. In the United States, it was a hated term. Americans died to defeat the social engineering that Hitler imposed on the Germans, and tried to impose on the rest of the world. Communism, as practiced in the Soviet Union, was social engineering – the absolute opposite of the freedom Americans enjoyed and employed to limit the power of their government.

How things have changed in 50 years.

In Collier County Fla., – and many other counties – the government has determined that property owners cannot build more than one dwelling on five acres of land. In the Columbia River Gorge – and many other regional areas – a landowner must first get permission from an appointed commission to build even one home – then build it, paint it and landscape it as dictated by the appointed commission.

Actually, in the last two decades, social engineering in America has become the norm, not the exception. What once was hated in American is now welcomed, indeed, demanded. Social engineering was renamed; it is now called "sustainable development." Social engineering is no longer implemented by jack-booted brown-shirted SS types; it is implemented by "comprehensive plans" developed by "visioning councils" adopted by local governments to comply with state law, enacted by state legislatures to be eligible for promised federal funds.

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1 posted on 08/04/2007 12:47:43 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

Good article


2 posted on 08/04/2007 1:02:38 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: JohnHuang2

“visioning councils”

The Russians called them “soviets,” unelected, unaccountable bureaucracies that dictated policies for the Marxist common good, as defined by the state.

This country is filthy with these dictatorships, from regional planning commissions to zoning boards. These illegal facsist councils strip away the right of Americans to vote, via the ballot box, who will lawfully represent them and write the laws.


3 posted on 08/04/2007 5:11:58 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: editor-surveyor

Ping


4 posted on 08/04/2007 6:09:16 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: JohnHuang2
He's harsh at the end.

Freedom in America is being lost, not to a superior force or a better idea; it is being lost by good freedom-loving people who are too busy or too lazy to defend it.

IMO it's not the "too lazy" part.
If we don't keep our jobs (being busy) then we are nothing more than the bottom feeders we're already supporting.

5 posted on 08/04/2007 6:15:31 AM PDT by philman_36
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“If we don’t keep our jobs (being busy) then we are nothing more than the bottom feeders we’re already supporting.”

Yeah, but who wants to work to support bottom feeders? Not me.


6 posted on 08/04/2007 7:09:02 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: philman_36
It's "too lazy" (or indifferent, or whatever). I've worked on local campaigns since the 80s and see the same volunteers over and over. I took a look at this state's FReeper lists and where they're located -- if only 10% of the local FReepers volunteered for local campaigns, our numbers would double.

As it is, we cannot even manage literature drops for ID'ed Republicans in many of the county's precincts because there are too few of us volunteers.

We get the country we deserve. And when I raise the issue on the state board, all I hear back from are the naysayers ("they're all crooked," etc.). Funny how readily these same FReepers kvetch when the folks they failed to oppose to bad things in office. I guess some FReepers just love to complain -- they're certainly making sure they have much to complain about. < / complaint

*\;-)

7 posted on 08/04/2007 7:18:52 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: popdonnelly
Yeah, but who wants to work to support bottom feeders? Not me.
Nor do I, yet that is exactly what we're doing despite our wishes not to. Taxes are supposed to be for the government to function and meanwhile the government thinks its function is to care for the bottom feeders so they keep supporting the 'give me' government. Catch-22.
8 posted on 08/04/2007 8:25:07 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: sionnsar
We get the country we deserve.
We get the country we're given by party hacks!
We deserve the best being nominated for any office and all too often the only person "the party" is willing to back is the one willing to bow down to the party instead of someone willing to stand on their own two feet. And, as everybody keeps reminding us Americans...there is no way a third party candidate can win anything without large party support.
And if you think differently then just consider the candidates from both parties running for POTUS in the next election. The "front runners" are all the rage amongst the hacks and anybody worth really gaining the office is ostracized, ridiculed and pigeon-holed.
JMO and pardon my pessimism.
9 posted on 08/04/2007 8:38:02 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Understand your pessimism. It's easy to come by here too.

But we recently replaced a worthless party hack chair (actually a series of same) with a SOLID and capable conservative. Sometimes one has to start locally and work one's way up -- but it is possible to do.

10 posted on 08/04/2007 7:31:42 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
And how long do you estimate it'll take before that "capable conservative" becomes beholden to the party players who selected him/her as a candidate for election in the first place?
Perhaps about the same time that he/she realizes their reelection depends on "going along to get along or it's out on your keester, buster"?
11 posted on 08/04/2007 10:24:41 PM PDT by philman_36
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Perhaps it’s a good thing you’re not involved. Have fun at your job.


12 posted on 08/05/2007 7:32:39 AM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
Perhaps it’s a good thing you’re not involved.
Am I too direct?

Have fun at your job.
I'll try, but it's rather boring in general.

13 posted on 08/05/2007 8:48:12 AM PDT by philman_36
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LOL, perhaps. Look, I have yet to see a candidate who is perfect on all things (probably never will unless I run and even then... *\;-) and on occasion I have worked on campaigns just because the alternative would be far, far worse. In this bluest county of the heavily blue and dominant region of the state it can be really bad!

And never yet have I seen a candidate who voted perfectly when elected, but at least our last R state rep (Toby Nixon, a relatively libertarian Mormon but one of the most conscientious legislators I've worked with -- also one of exceptional IQ) had carefully considered and thoughtful answers to our questions. We might still disagree, but at least we understood and could appreciate why he voted as he did. (Unfortunately he was targeted in the the last elections, and the Republican volunteer turnout was diminished, so he went down to defeat.)

My wife and I are also "citizen lobbyists" in areas of particular interest. Actively working on campaigns makes us known to our legislators and gives us readier access -- granted, more readily at state level than federal, but even our R congressman knows us by name.

But there is also this to consider: politicians have to keep a number of groups happy -- but at least at (WA) state levels their volunteer base is critical. Anger the volunteers and you've got no hope (though we're not formally organized we are a big network of friends).

Sorry about the job! Sometimes wish mine were more like that.

14 posted on 08/05/2007 5:39:46 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: philman_36; 1Old Pro; aardvark1; a_federalist; abner; alaskanfan; alloysteel; alfons; ...
"Freedom in America is being lost, not to a superior force or a better idea; it is being lost by good freedom-loving people who are too busy or too lazy to defend it."

IMO it's not the "too lazy" part.
If we don't keep our jobs (being busy) then we are nothing more than the bottom feeders we're already supporting.

Exactly. And the socialists always schedule important meetings in a way that makes it almost impossible for a working stiff to attend.

15 posted on 08/05/2007 7:02:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: editor-surveyor; AuntB; SierraWasp

Thanks for the ping


16 posted on 08/05/2007 7:15:17 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Duncan Hunter for president!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Turn it around. We can have our own meetings and have our own impact on the education of the American citizen.

A small group meeting in a home, a larger group meeting in a restaurant of meeting hall, we can make presentations that people will understand and support.

It has to be done locally and it has to be done one voter at a time, I’m afraid. And it will cost us our savings and our leisure time, that is also a given.


17 posted on 08/05/2007 7:24:15 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: editor-surveyor
the socialists always schedule important meetings in a way that makes it almost impossible for a working stiff to attend.

"Almost impossible" is the key. Sometimes we make it to meetings regardless -- but the more I hear such indifference on FR, the more I think I just need to retire outside the country and leave the indifferent FReepers to the future they passively accept for themselves and all the rest.

18 posted on 08/05/2007 7:29:19 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar; philman_36
Understand your pessimism. It's easy to come by here too.

WRT working for getting good candidates in place, there are a bunch here that contributed time and money to three slots here in PA that the RNC blew us off -- Specter/Toomey, Santorum/Casey, and Irey/Murtha. The RNC is its own worst enemy.

19 posted on 08/05/2007 7:36:08 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: sionnsar
"Almost impossible" is the key. Sometimes we make it to meetings regardless -- but the more I hear such indifference on FR, the more I think I just need to retire outside the country and leave the indifferent FReepers to the future they passively accept for themselves and all the rest.

There are so many erroneous conclusions in that reply, that I find no room for a reply less than five pages long, which your posting history doesn't justify.

20 posted on 08/05/2007 7:38:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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