Skip to comments.Russia Could Re-establish Naval Base in Syria
Posted on 08/04/2007 6:50:45 PM PDT by F15Eagle
(IsraelNN.com) Russia is seeking to establish a naval base in the Middle East most likely in Syria, experts said. "For the Black Sea fleet, the Mediterranean has the highest strategic importance," the RIA Novosti and Interfax news agency quoted Admiral Vladimir Masorin as saying in the Ukrainian port city of Sevastopol. "I think a permanent presence of the Russian navy should be restored there using the forces of the North and Baltic fleets."
During the Cold War, the Soviet navy had a permanent presence on the Mediterranean, using the Syrian port of Tartus as a supply point. Russia recently denied that it had refurbished the former site and said that it had not stationed any men or vessels at Tartus.
The ugly had of communism reaches out again.
Had = hand.
Well anybody who expects Russia to help “democratize” the world is someone I want to talk to,because I’ve got ocean front property in Arizona for sale at a good price !!!
I really don’t consider Russia anything more than bombast.
Putin is turning into a real imperialist. Unfortunately, this word is only used to attack the USA.
It would be in Israel’s best interest to render that base useless the moment it appears that attack is imminent. Before the Russians move in, for sure.
I'd say Russia is biting off far more than it can chew (again).
Even in Russia’s heyday, reports had it that locals didn’t like Russian bases. Unlike Western forces they put next to no money into the local economy. One story from just before the fall of communism ( late 80s ) had the Vietnamese reaction to Russians based at Cam Ranh Bay. The locals said that the Russians didn’t pay for anything and they hoped Americans would come back instead.
But without another Reagan who knows.
In the 80’s, the Russians had an anchorage off Libya and while we ran back and forth across the MED for 6 months, the Russian ships never left that anchorage. Not once.
If you don’t train, underway, you can’t fight, effectively.
Around 1990, A Sovremeny DDG and a Slava CG visited Norfolk Naval Base. These were among their latest ships.
Missile doors were painted shut, caked with paint. Their damage control systems were almost nonexistent. There was very little compartmentability. Combat systems, in general, were clearly not maintained properly.
If the Russians truly wish to have an effective naval presence, they have a long way to go.
That was 1990.
Also, the Russians then were heavily into deception ops, many of which we bought, some of which we didn’t. Such as, sending the same ships out of various ports with different names and numbers etc. Rigging entire phony airbases with dummy planes, to be seen by our sats. Etc.
Also, over the past 60 years, in the air, our planes have done a fair bit of work and done very well. There's no question that we have little competition in the air (maybe the Brits, maybe Israel -- but we aren't going to fight either of them).
But to the subject: in the past 60 years, naval combat has been almost non-existent. I don't think many people realize how utterly dominant the US is in this arena. People haven't seen what we can do. China may be foolish enough to challenge us at some point (they're building rapidly), but Russia hasn't got a prayer. They sink their own subs, for goodness sake!
That was then. This is now. Russian’s aren’t traveling broke these days.
Putin has also talked about opening bases (Both naval and army/airforce) in Cuba and Venezuela.
Had the Soviets been sitting on the pile of cash that is in Russia today, the USSR would never have collapsed (The first time)
I’m puzzled. What has Russian tourism to Israel to do with eliminating a naval base which could be used by any number of enemies to strike at Israel?
I meant that they need to do it BEFORE the Russians establish a presence there, so Russians don’t get killed in the process. That leaves no excuse for Russia to join in the attack on Israel.
Had Lenin slipped on a banana peel at the Helsinki Station, Kerensky might have...
Sigh. Oh well.
What is in Israel's best interest is the same as America's which is removing Russia's terrorist exporting proxies in the Mid-East. Iran and Syria are at the top of the removal list. Since Moscow arms our enemies around the globe, guess what that makes Putin and his KGB thugs?
I’ve seen this coming for quite awhile now : the predator always goes for the youngest, oldest, weakest member of the caribou herd. Thus the russians and/or chinese are going to try to take over gaza, lebanon, syria, iran as new “colonies”. Putin is trying to bring back the old USSR empire, thus the planting of the russian flag on the arctic seabed, jacking up oil prices, now this russian seabase in syria. Reagan knew how to stand up to the russian thugs, too bad our current president can’t, he’s in the hip pocket of the globalists as we see in this sea treaty that gives the oceans of the world to the UN, in order to appease all these pisant dictators like putin.
Ah. The plot thickens.
If Russia and Israel were enemies, (which they are not) do you sincerely believe Israel would be out there beating the bushes for Russian tourists?
The generation I came up in (except for the long haired, maggot infested, dope smokin' red diaper doper babies) will never fully trust the Russians, just as my father's generation never trusted Japs or Germans. A knife in Israel's back from Russia would not be a big surprise!
Russian Fleet Worries Israel - The major Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot reported yesterday that Israeli intelligence holds that the presence of Russian ships in Syria is a direct threat to Israels security. In particular, the bases in Tartus and Latakia will turn into centers of electronic surveillance that will be able to monitor not only Israel, but the entire Middle East. There is also concern in Israel that Russia will share that information with its Muslim partners, especially Syria and possibly Iran. In addition, Russia will certainly create a major air defense system to defend its bases that will be able to defend much of Syria from attack as well.Israel should worry, especially after KGB Putin deployed 2 battalions of mohammedan Chechen "former rebels" to Lebanon to help Hizballah wage jihad against Israel.
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