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Illinois Pharmacist Wins Battle vs. Wal-Mart in Morning After Pill Lawsuit
LifeNews.com ^ | August 3, 2007 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 08/04/2007 7:33:41 PM PDT by monomaniac

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To: mefistofelerevised

agree.

these people do not know what they’re creating:

down the road some moslem pharmacist will deny christians and jews of medications.


41 posted on 08/04/2007 9:33:43 PM PDT by ken21 (b 4 fred.)
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To: ken21
down the road some moslem pharmacist will deny christians and jews of medications

Wrong.

It's illegal to discriminate against a citizen on the basis of race or creed in places of public accommodation.

Otoh, a medication is not a citizen. A medication does not have a race or creed. A medication does not have civil rights. You may legally discriminate against it.

42 posted on 08/04/2007 9:47:04 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: shhrubbery!; Always Right; mefistofelerevised; Moonman62; BKerr
Pharmacists are middle men. Get another job. Enough of this. Keep your religious beliefs at church, not in medicine.
Many pharmacists think too much of themselves, think we're still in the 1900s... there are few compounding pharmacists left, all a modern pharmacy needs are men and women who can count to a hundred :)
This is the same logic as the Muslims use when they don’t want to handle pork at a cash register due to “moral and/or religious” prohibitions. Pork is not covered by the law.
Some insulin is derived from pork products. Can a Muslim pharmacist refuse to fill a prescription for insulin? Can a Scientologist refuse to disburse any and all psychiatric drugs?`
43 posted on 08/04/2007 11:15:36 PM PDT by Nonesuch (And could a "Christian Science" pharmacist refuse to fill *ALL* prescriptions and keep his job?)
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To: Nonesuch

“.....Can a Scientologist refuse to disburse any and all psychiatric drugs?”

I’ll admit, Tom Cruise and his rant against Brooke Shields’ use of certain drugs for her post partum depression came to mind. But of course, he’s not a pharmacist and I’m not sure if that is the thinking of all Scientologists.


44 posted on 08/05/2007 3:49:06 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Nonesuch; shhrubbery!; Always Right; mefistofelerevised; Moonman62; BKerr
Many pharmacists think too much of themselves, think we're still in the 1900s...

Wow, thanks for the enlightenment. I was unaware that when we entered the 20th and 21st century that it became OK to kill babies. Morality and God are so 1900's....

45 posted on 08/05/2007 4:57:37 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: monomaniac

A pathetic decision which further muddies the waters of freedom of religion and employment in this country. If you don’t want to distribute the drug, either open your own pharmacy or work for an employer that doesn’t sell it.


46 posted on 08/05/2007 5:01:43 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: mefistofelerevised; Huntress; Moonman62

Refusing to dispense a substance intended to kill a child is not in the same category as refusing to serve pork. You would have a point if the pharmacist refused to dispense to a customer who didn’t conform to his/her beliefs, for example, if he refused to dispense medicine to those whom he didn’t approve of, who didn’t dress the right way, who didn’t act in ways he approved, etc.

The pharmacist in question wasn’t demanding that the customer become pro-life or even change in any way, just that the pharmacist was not going to participate in the killing of the customer’s child.


47 posted on 08/05/2007 5:15:40 AM PDT by rimtop56
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To: Always Right; rimtop56
I agree with the pharmacist not wanting to dispense the drug. However, Walmart is making a legal demand. The pharmacist’s recourse is to either come up with some sort of compromise with his employer or find another job.
48 posted on 08/05/2007 5:19:57 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

The Pharmacist is protected by the law as the court said. The problem is Wal-Mart is trying to respond to the governor’s executive order, which in my opinion is an illegal usurpation of power and will be struck down if challenged.


49 posted on 08/05/2007 5:26:38 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Nonesuch
"all a modern pharmacy needs are men and women who can count to a hundred"

I hope your pharmacists overlooks that remark when your doctors prescribe drugs that, when taken in combination, will kill you.

50 posted on 08/05/2007 5:37:12 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: Always Right

Usurpation is right. The lawmakers, who represent the people, pass a law. And the King—I mean the Governor—issues an edict commanding the opposite of the law.


51 posted on 08/05/2007 6:49:46 AM PDT by rimtop56
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To: kcvl
HEY, NANCY, keep your legs crossed if you don’t want to get pregnant, honey, which shouldn’t be too hard for you to do!

I don't know anything about Nancy and have never seen her picture, but if she looks and behaves anything like most of the pro-abort orgs' leadership hags she doesn't need to keep her legs crossed to avoid pregnancy. Just be yourself Nancy and you won't have to be concerned about any of that giving birth stuff.

52 posted on 08/05/2007 7:03:11 AM PDT by epow ( "The more guns you take out of society the fewer murders you will have" Rudy--6/20/00)
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To: boop
I have no problem with a private company having it be their policy, and people making the choice to work under these conditions.

My thoughts exactly. Walmart has the right to set work rules and the employees have the right to quit their job if it requires them to violate their conscience. But the state has NO legitimate power to mandate what a business MUST sell. It can legitimately say what a business CAN'T sell, but not what it MUST sell.

53 posted on 08/05/2007 7:11:17 AM PDT by epow ( "The more guns you take out of society the fewer murders you will have" Rudy--6/20/00)
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To: Huntress
Sorry, you said "owner", not "get other shareholders".

I think you need to refine your thinking on the matter a bit ~ all we have in this deal so far are the "management team" and they are not "the owner" ~ just the custodian or agent of the property.

The President of the company is just another employee.

Absent the owner(s) even addressing this issue Wal-Mart's corporate management team must be required to adhere to the law. The judge has just told them what the law is.

I doubt the management team can get a "defy the law" motion passed by the stockholders.

54 posted on 08/05/2007 7:15:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Proud_texan
Technically speaking the pharmacists are more correctly referred to as "medical" than the modern physician. After all, those guys' trade arose out of the practice of cutting hair.

I think some people believe prescribing a medicine is more important than making sure the patient doesn't die from it though.

55 posted on 08/05/2007 7:20:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Petronski

Bwahahahaha, the kitties got it.


56 posted on 08/05/2007 7:52:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: muawiyah
"I think some people believe"

Very true.

I also think some people believe that substituting the states "superior" judgement over that of an individual, even if one disagrees with that individuals judgement call, is something to be desired.

I don't see how even the most tortured reading of the commerce clause can support that so I'm guessing the right to always get some medication is covered in the penumbra of the Constitution. Or maybe it's rooted in Scottish law.

57 posted on 08/05/2007 9:12:28 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: LanPB01
If you don’t want to distribute the drug, either open your own pharmacy or work for an employer that doesn’t sell it.

I might be wrong, but this executive order did not allow private pharmacists with a moral objection to refuse the sale of this abortifacient. It forced all pharmacists to sell it. This was just one of many of Blagoidiot's bad ideas.

58 posted on 08/05/2007 6:47:04 PM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil

I believe you’re correct. The executive order is a terrible idea, but so is the idea that a pharmacist can tell his employer he refuses to do his job.


59 posted on 08/05/2007 7:03:45 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: kcvl
Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America

“Illinois residents should thank Gov. Blagojevich for standing up for women’s health and privacy. Gov. Blagojevich’s actions reflect the values of freedom and personal responsibility—and that means timely access to birth control that could prevent unintended pregnancies and reduce the need for abortion,” Keenan said. “The governor’s latest proactive step to guarantee that pharmacies fill valid birth-control prescriptions makes Illinois a clear leader among the states.


Should my doctor be forced to preform an abortion on the baby of any woman, or child, that ask for the procedure. I sure hope the answer is NO.

60 posted on 08/05/2007 7:30:19 PM PDT by CHEE
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