This guide was a great help in our search.
Posted on 08/05/2007 12:25:01 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
even still...so instead of tenured transgendered studies professors, you’ll have nontenured transgendered studies professors. You’ll have the same kids that will treat college as a place for guys to get drunk and girls to get wild. Tuitions will keep rising.
Abolishing tenure is a quick fix and I just don’t see it as the root of the problem.
Other people may have different experiences. I would like to hear them. This was mine, and even tho I’m a supporter of CCs and have some additional knowledge of them as my mother taught at one for years, my choice would be to send my child to an affordable 4 yr school.
I saw some of what you speak of, students who just were filling a seat, or blowing off class or not taking class seriously at all.
Then I met the people who were really motivated to learn and understand and actually grasp what was being taught, granted they were maybe 20% or so of the students but they were quite sharp and highly achievement oriented.
And it should be pointed out that the same apathy can be found at a BA college or university, only it costs more to do it there....caveat emptor.
Tenure represents the ultimate restraint of trade in the market for college level educators. Eliminating it would restore competition and consumer choice. I doubt many of the people now paying the bill would continue to be so inclined if they were given a say in the matter.
They work for the government, or for "nonprofits" getting money from their friends in the government.
We need to zero all subsidies to higher education yesterday...
interesting read
Colleges....in the face of world wide web information availability, may well be anachronisms...captitol cost and investment outweighing the return.
Thanks for the heads up — and yes I’m scared. Amen.
I will tell you why I was raised to believe a college education was so important. My brother and I [both of us now right around 50 yo] were the first to attend college in my family. Our grandparents came off the boat from Eastern Europe at the turn of the century, they worked in the steel mills and coal mines in southwestern PA. My grandmothers cleaned houses for a living and they helped my parents pay for my brother and I to go to college. It was the American dream to have your kids and grandkids be better educated and to do better in life than you and your parents. They wanted you to do a job that didn’t entail “getting dirty”. My brother would have been perfectly happy being a motorcycle mechanic, but that wasn’t an option in our house. it was college, PERIOD. he is a very successful petroleum engineer now. I graduated from college and went to law school.
Graduate school, majoring in something that will get them a job, or Law School.
As a GIGILO???
The founder of the new university that can charge only $10,000 a year and deliver a better education, less overrun with leftist pap, filth, and wasting of everyone's time with the latest French navel gazing exercise...
and mo wrote:
Colleges....in the face of world wide web information availability, may well be anachronisms...captitol cost and investment outweighing the return.
You folks must want to abdicate the sciences and engineering to other nations. Do either of you have any idea what it costs to train a competent scientist to do research at the state of the science in chemistry, physics, or materials science?
For example, a research grade field emission transmission electron microscope, required to study virus structure at atomic resolution or nanoparticle structure at atomic resolution costs approximately $2M (or more, depending on attachments.) Other instrumentation (e.g. a secondary ion mass spectrometer or x-ray photoelectron spectrometer) to study surface composition or a nuclear magnetic resonance spectrometer to study chemical composition have similar price tags. Do you really want students to graduate with a BS or higher degrees without ever having touched this kind of instrumentation? Currently, such instuments are funded by government grants, alumni donations, and tuition.
Not all of the university's money goes to support profs like Ward Churchill... Is there largess without return on investment? Yes. But let's not "throw out the baby with the bath water."
This guide was a great help in our search.
We weren't about to spend our retirement just so they could get a college degree. We planned to put them through 12 years of Catholic school; the rest was up to them.
The oldest did get a full scholarship to a State school, where he ended up staying for five years, because he changed majors so he could get ready for Law School. He did loans for his three years of Law School, and is now working as an attorney in Boston. #2 son didn't get a scholarship, but we got Financial Aid because #1 was in school at the same time. The FAFSA form didn't ask if the other kids in college had scholarships. ;o) He went to a private university, though, so he had some hefty loans. He wanted to go to Grad school, and was feeling down that he'd have to get even more loans, but SirKit told him to go somewhere where THEY'D pay for grad school. He's now at UT Austin in his 4th year of a 6 year PhD program.
#3, our only daughter, was homeschooled through high school, and she ended up getting a 3/4 scholarship for a small Catholic university. She's going into her Sophomore year. Our youngest son is going into his Senior year, and he's already thinking about reasonably priced colleges to attend.
I am sure that you are gakrak, it’s tough out here in the world so to speak, but if you have raised your daughters with values then you may have given them more then a college education can give them.
IMO, successful people all have the same traits no matter their degrees.
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