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Woman fatally stabbed by her ex; he's fatally shot by a bystander
Seattle Times online ^ | August 5, 2007 | Karen Gaudette and Michael J. Berens

Posted on 08/05/2007 8:54:53 PM PDT by Reagan is King

A Seattle mother of four was fatally stabbed early today despite a court protection order against her knife-wielding ex-husband.

The 33-year-old victim was stabbed nearly two dozen times while attending a birthday party about 1 a.m. at the Veterans of Foreign Wars hall in the 9100 block of Martin Luther King Jr. Way South.

The 39-year-old assailant burst into the hall, grabbed the victim and slashed her with a large knife, witnesses told police. The weapon was recovered at the scene.

A 32-year-old Kent man who was at the party pulled a hand gun and shot the suspect who later died at Harborview Medial Center.

Police spokeswoman Renee Witt said the party guest had a concealed-weapons permit. She said he likely won't face charges since he acted to prevent further harm.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; bystander; concealedweapon; selfdefense
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Too bad he couldn't have shot him sooner but he gave him what he deserved.
1 posted on 08/05/2007 8:55:03 PM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Reagan is King
... he likely won't face charges since he acted to prevent further harm.

Likely won't face charges??? This guy should be given an award, not a court date.

2 posted on 08/05/2007 8:58:15 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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“despite a court protection order”

Yeah, that piece of paper did real well in protecting her. Not.

She should have had a gun of her own.


3 posted on 08/05/2007 9:04:36 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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She should have had a gun of her own.

Nah, that would have made him so mad he might have taken it from her and shot her with it.

4 posted on 08/05/2007 9:12:56 PM PDT by umgud ("When illegals are banned, only greedy businesses and welfare providers will have them)
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To: ConservaTexan
Likely won't face charges??? This guy should be given an award, not a court date.

I agree. But unfortunately, in SC he'd be given a court date. VFW posts serve alcohol, and our state laws don't allow anyone to carry anywhere alcohol is served.

5 posted on 08/05/2007 9:13:10 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: Reagan is King

So much for the restraining order. I’ve never yet heard of a piece of paper that could stop a bullet or a knife.


6 posted on 08/05/2007 9:22:38 PM PDT by Fairview ( Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.)
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True, but isn't it in bars and where signs are posted that no concealed guns can be brought in???? although signs or pieces of paper ever stopped anyone ....
7 posted on 08/05/2007 9:23:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("If builders built airplanes the way FAA writes FARs then the first pilot would have been a woman")
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Served? Or sold? Presumably if you have dinner guests over to your home and open a bottle of wine, they didn’t just become criminals because they happened to be carrying. I would think private clubs would be exempt.


8 posted on 08/05/2007 9:29:38 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: DaveLoneRanger

CCW Ping


9 posted on 08/05/2007 9:43:19 PM PDT by RhoTheta
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To: Fairview

That’s the Liberal way of doing things; whatever makes you feel good doesn’t matter if it works or not.


10 posted on 08/05/2007 9:57:29 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Reagan is King

Protection orders are governments way of excusing themselves from a person getting harmed.


11 posted on 08/05/2007 10:03:15 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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Served? Or sold? Presumably if you have dinner guests over to your home and open a bottle of wine, they didn’t just become criminals because they happened to be carrying. I would think private clubs would be exempt.

In Washington state, only places which must post a "No Minors" sign are prohibited for CCW. Restaurants which serve drinks with meals are not off limits. If the restaurant has a lounge, that place would be posted and is off limits.

The bar area of the VFW is subject to exactly the same Washington Liquor Control Board rules and regulations as a bar or lounge. The rest of the building would not be restricted for CCW.

Typically, the FOE, Elks, and VFW halls around here have dance halls which they rent for parties that are separate fro the lounge.

12 posted on 08/05/2007 10:03:54 PM PDT by Sparticus (They're so open minded that their brains leaked out.)
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To: Reagan is King

Clearly, it is time for the government to ban knives.


13 posted on 08/05/2007 10:05:16 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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“The 33-year-old victim was stabbed nearly two dozen times while attending a birthday party about 1 a.m. at the Veterans of Foreign Wars hall in the 9100 block of Martin Luther King Jr. Way South.”

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14 posted on 08/06/2007 1:41:50 AM PDT by midway
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State laws vary of course, but in many states the establishment has to derive more than 50% of it revenue from alcohol sales to be considered a bar, and even with a license, carry in a bar is usually prohibited.

In Texas all places that serve alcohol must post a sign, but it just says that you can't carry unless you are licensed, but that would be the case if it was a dairy queen. The signs are something of a holdover from the pre CHL days, modified to accommodate the CHL laws. I think non CHL holders get a an enhanced penalty for carrying where booze is sold, but as I said, even if they just sold milk, carry sans CHL would be a no-no

15 posted on 08/06/2007 2:08:46 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Lancey Howard
Clearly, it is time for the government to ban knives.

Don't give them any ideas. In some jurisdictions in England, they do just that. In fact big knives, as this one may have been, are banned in many states. Ironically the Bowie Knife is banned in Texas. (for carry that is, you can still own one).

16 posted on 08/06/2007 2:10:55 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Reagan is King

“likely”

not even probably?


17 posted on 08/06/2007 3:22:18 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Your home for pithy disquistion)
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To: Reagan is King

“likely”

not even probably?


18 posted on 08/06/2007 3:22:21 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Your home for pithy disquistion)
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To: Reagan is King
In March, her husband, Santos Arriola-Rochez, was charged with domestic violence in King County District Court in Burien, prompting a judge to sign a no-contact order between him and the victim. Brooks filed for divorce in the same month, and it was made final July 6, court records say.
19 posted on 08/06/2007 4:22:35 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Reagan is King

The legal and law enforcement systems cannot protect you. They can only document the commission of a crime, apprehend the criminal, give him a trial, and sentence him. All actions taken after the fact.
It is your responsibility to protect yourself.


20 posted on 08/06/2007 4:31:36 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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