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Romney flip-flops on abortion...again!
Eye on 08 . com ^ | Soren Dayton

Posted on 08/07/2007 12:57:26 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan

http://www.eyeon08.com/2007/08/06/romney-flip-flops-on-abortion-again


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; president; republican; romney

1 posted on 08/07/2007 12:57:29 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: AFA-Michigan

...for those of us not able to go to the video, could you summarize?

(At work here and all video is blocked by our firewall)


2 posted on 08/07/2007 1:06:01 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

To sum up, Romney didn’t flip flop, he said he was a federalist and it should go to the states, and said unfortunately Mass is a pro-choice state, then said he personally is pro-life.

I’m sorry folks that hate Romney, can you please keep DIGGING to find an ACTUAL argument?


3 posted on 08/07/2007 1:16:19 AM PDT by RealTeen (Right- Correct, Right- Conservative. Are You Right on the Right?)
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To: RealTeen

The federalist argument is the principled argument of the conservative movement however it is not the argument of the “pro-life movement” which sees Roe vs. Wade as an imposition on states that should be reversed by any means including federal imposition on states.

Romney’s problems on this issue are related to flipping. My own congressman (Rep. Todd Platts-R 19th District Pennsylvania) ran for state rep as “pro-choice.”

He changed to “pro-life” a year or so ahead of his congressional campaign and now that he’s in Washington he’s voting for federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research which is definitely not pro-life.

Romney clearly moved from one camp to the other and in the tradition of all politicians and most former presidents (”govern from the middle”) will not advance anything that is really pro-life as president.

Governor Romney forced employers to provide “health care” coverage and forced employees to take it. That’s Hillary Lite with a government imposed but not directly controlled by the government plan.

Old Mitt is the “moderate” just like his father who ran between Goldwater and Rockefeller (conservative and liberal) when he first put his hat in the presidential ring in 1964.


4 posted on 08/07/2007 2:45:22 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: RealTeen

He is not our guy.

September, our nation goes Right! I’m with you big guy!

Run Fred, Run!


5 posted on 08/07/2007 2:47:43 AM PDT by mmanager (Fred instead of Purebred, Crossbred and the Hothead)
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To: mmanager

Fred hired Spence Abraham as a campaign manager!
You fine with him hiring a guy who refused to condemn Palestinian terrorism and Yasser Arafat?


6 posted on 08/07/2007 3:13:17 AM PDT by RealTeen (Right- Correct, Right- Conservative. Are You Right on the Right?)
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To: Nextrush

Old Mitt is a Liberal.

How does a Republican get elected as Governor in a state whose registered Democratic voters out number their Republican counterparts 3 to one, and the state legislature is 85% liberal?


7 posted on 08/07/2007 3:32:00 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: RealTeen

Advisor not manager.

LLS


8 posted on 08/07/2007 4:23:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: mmanager

Mitt’s not my guy, either, and I’m hopeful about Fred... but how’s Fred’s position any different on this? Isn’t he a turn-it-back-to-the-states guy?


9 posted on 08/07/2007 4:25:34 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Nextrush

Sen. Jim Demint (SC) one of the best pro-life advocates in the country and he endorses Mitt.

YouTube - DeMint on Mitt Romney - Not just a talker but a doer.

YouTube - DeMint Fox News Interview -- Romney Endorsement

10 posted on 08/07/2007 8:39:10 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: AFA-Michigan

I’d say Romney has a very good chance of winning the nomination. He just keeps getting better with each debate.

A Romney/Hunter ticket would be difficult to beat, as would a Romney/F Thompson ticket.

I’m not sure how I feel about this evaluation, btw.


11 posted on 08/07/2007 8:41:12 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: RealTeen

RealTeen is either correct, or he’s entirely missed the point. Trouble is, we won’t know which until Romney is further cornered to force him to provide a more precise response to the question of whether he now suddenly supports a Human Life Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which he has not supported in the past.

Romney’s post-2005 position (until yesterday) has been as Teen described: he says he believes Roe should be overturned and that as a result, New York and Massachusetts should be free to continue to allow the termination of prenatal children’s lives if they so choose, while other states outlaw abortion on demand.

In the video clip provided, Romney (1) said he supports the GOP platform, which includes a call for a Human Life Amendment that would constitutionally guarantee prenatal children’s Right to Life in all fifty states, and (2) said he supports the call for a HLA being in the platform.

This calculated rhetoric is obviously intended to make it SOUND LIKE Romney supports a HLA. (However, anyone who’s watched this guy’s evolving machinations on abortion and other issues has learned, whenever Romney is speaking, to see Bill Clinton explaining what the definition of the word “is” is.)

The clearly suggestively pro-HLA rhetoric aside, Romney did not actually precisely say in the video is that he supports the HLA.

He said he supports the platform (in my opinion, merely a generality) and said he supports the HLA being in the platform. Given Romney’s hyper-specific word-parsing, that’s not the same thing as saying he’s for the HLA.

“I support the HLA being in the platform” is the same as “I support the Boy Scouts’ right to set their own policy on homosexuals.” In both cases, it’s intended to SOUND LIKE he agrees with the actual policy, but as we know from the latter, exactly the opposite is true: Romney opposes the Scouts’ actual policy.

So until he’s further cornered into admitting whatever the new “truth for the day” is, we don’t know for sure whether Mitt (1) truly has evolved yet again, now supporting something (the HLA) he hasn’t supported before, or (2) is merely guilty of once again using deceptive rhetoric intended to give a misleading impression.


12 posted on 08/07/2007 12:53:14 PM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: Rameumptom

I am happily uncommitted but not about to believe in Mitt Romney as a great conservative or pro-lifer.

Jim DeMint can endorse who he wishes and who he believes will win the election.

Giuliani the mayor and Romney the governor are good examples of the kind of out of DC type of candidate most likely to win.

But they have liberal baggage on them, too.

Among the others don’t forget Mike Huckabee the governor and even the Fred’s and Newt’s out there know that Washington is very unpopular now and you have to run as an outsider to win.


13 posted on 08/07/2007 6:08:19 PM PDT by Nextrush
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To: AFA-Michigan

My name for Mitt... Mitt the malleable

If he became the leader of the GOP he would effectively make it a third party in status because he would permanently sunder the delicate coalition for victory that Ronald Reagan created.

Mitt will kill the GOP as a power party.

If you want the GOP dead... VOTE ROMNEY!


14 posted on 08/08/2007 12:10:09 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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