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In The Belly of The Beast: Jamaat ul-Fuqra
The New Media Journal ^ | August 8, 2007 | Dr. Paul Williams

Posted on 08/08/2007 4:40:01 AM PDT by NewMediaJournal

“Jamaat ul-Fuqra may be the best positioned group to launch an attack on the United States, or, more likely, help al-Qaeda to do so.” – Center for Policing Terrorism

“We are fighting to destroy the enemy. We are dealing with evil and its roots and its roots are America.” – Sheikh Mubarek Ali Gilani, Founder of Jamaat ul-Fuqra

Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a terrorist organization with headquarters in Pakistan, has established over 45 compounds in rural areas throughout America. The compounds are providing paramilitary training to new recruits for the great jihad against the USA under the not-so-watchful eye of federal law enforcement officials. Most of the recruits are African Americans who converted to Islam while doing hard time in federal prison.

These compounds, which contain firing ranges and obstacle courses, are located at such places as Hancock, New York; Hyattsville, Maryland; Falls Church, Virginia; York, South Carolina; Dover, Tennessee; Buena Vista, Colorado; Talihina, Oklahoma; Tulane Country, California; and Squaw Valley, California. Multiple compounds have been established on the rural outskirts of Macon, Georgia and Red House, Virginia. Several of these sites contain landing strips and elaborate networks of underground bunkers. The group has also set up basic training camps throughout Canada, including two near Toronto.

Under the name of “The Muslims of the Americas,” a so-called “charitable institution, ul-Fuqra maintains offices in Tallahassee, Florida; Binghamton, New York; Springfield, Massachusetts; Dover, Delaware; and Roanoke, Virginia.

(Excerpt) Read more at newmediajournal.us ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Georgia; US: Maryland; US: New York; US: Oklahoma; US: South Carolina; US: Tennessee; US: Virginia; War on Terror
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1 posted on 08/08/2007 4:40:03 AM PDT by NewMediaJournal
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To: Grampa Dave

al-Ping


2 posted on 08/08/2007 4:48:05 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

"No hay nada ver aquí, para andar por."
3 posted on 08/08/2007 4:56:05 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: NewMediaJournal; Cindy; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; ...
The group has also set up basic training camps throughout Canada, including two near Toronto.


5 posted on 08/08/2007 5:00:59 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: From One - Many
Some are close to me.....
I will take an even closer look!
Wish me luck, and safety!
Don't type it, to me though
If anyone has any directions, please share!
Share with the proper local LEO.
Repeat, Do NOT type any info to me
but do share with the proper people.

Thank You!

6 posted on 08/08/2007 5:06:31 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: NewMediaJournal

I realize that this is probably the tip of the iceberg, but it is a very frightening tip. It begs the question, how serious is our government in the War on Terror? They seem to confront the terrorists the way a condemned man would confront a firing-squad, blindfolded and hands tied behind the back.


7 posted on 08/08/2007 5:15:32 AM PDT by David Isaac (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: David Isaac
As citizens, we can get the word out over the internet....

Let the politicians play their games. The politicians
are not the American people. The American people
can do the impossible, even when our politicians stand
in our way!

8 posted on 08/08/2007 5:20:43 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: From One - Many
Moderators, if you will please remove my Post #4 for clarity. I would be completely dismayed if someone, typed info to me with directions because of my Post #4.....

The enemy does not deserve to be warned.....
Thank You....I am comfortable with Post #6.

My apology for my error....

9 posted on 08/08/2007 5:26:18 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: NewMediaJournal
Members of the group have been arrested for trafficking in firearms, including AK-45s.

I am unfamilar with the AK-45. Is this from a BAFTE report?

Best regards,

10 posted on 08/08/2007 5:28:22 AM PDT by Copernicus (Mary Carpenter Speaks About Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: From One - Many
Gates of Vienna has done a lot of investigative work on these guys

Virginia Part 1

Virginia Part 2

Virginia Part 3

The Charlotte County Files

A Bird's-Eye View

Jamaat ul-Fuqra in Georgia -- From the Air

HQ: Hancock, NY

In California

In South Carolina

Turning on the Light

Dhimmocracy in America

More on JF at
The Politics of CP
 

11 posted on 08/08/2007 5:29:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: From One - Many
They also go by the name Muslims of America


12 posted on 08/08/2007 5:31:54 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625
your post should be removed as well....
We should not warn these people.
14 posted on 08/08/2007 5:34:13 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: From One - Many

Just address your post to the Admin Moderator in the “To” line.


15 posted on 08/08/2007 5:41:35 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: David Isaac
It begs the question, how serious is our government in the War on Terror? They seem to confront the terrorists the way a condemned man would confront a firing-squad, blindfolded and hands tied behind the back.

I think the FBI, CIA, DHS are all very serious about ridding us of these criminals and thugs. However, they are also hamstrung by liberals and tree-huggers who require the politically correct behavior demanded by the ACLU and other leftist organizations. To wit:

the special agents of the Bureau are now compelled to undergo sensitivity training sessions so that they will not offend practitioners of Islam – even radical Islam – in the course of a criminal investigation.

I'm sorry, but we know that 9/11 was perpetrated by Arab Muslims and in my mind, I am suspicious of all middle eastern people. I've said this before, and have even had private emails to me stating that there are "moderate" Muslims but they can't speak out for fear of reprisals. Sorry, but that still doesn't cut it with me. If you have a festering wound on your body, you need to get it taken care of, and sometimes that may mean surgery. Given that the Book of Swords in the Koran says it's ok for a Muslim to kill me because I don't happen to be a member of their religion hardly seems like the Religion of Peace.

As to the FBI, CIA, and DHS, if we can read articles like this, I'll be my last dollar that these agencies not only know about them, but are just waiting for a misstep so they can shut them down. Unfortunately, it is this bent for PC-ness that prevents them from having a first-strike capability. If there is any justice in the world, when those Muslims do strike, I sure hope its at those people who parade in the streets with their End-The-War posters. I guess these nut jobs think freedom comes without cost. Grow up people, read your history books, and see where appeasement has ultimately lead. These naive idiots are going to get us all killed.

16 posted on 08/08/2007 5:42:19 AM PDT by econjack
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To: fanfan

did and it didn’t work (unable to send), but I believe the message has been delivered now....I hope.


17 posted on 08/08/2007 5:42:48 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Admin Moderator

thank you Admin.


18 posted on 08/08/2007 5:45:18 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: All

dang, too early or the Moderators believe the information to be okay....


19 posted on 08/08/2007 5:46:39 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Admin Moderator

please review post #11 of this thread, remove or leave?


20 posted on 08/08/2007 5:53:28 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: fanfan
Thank you, my apology for my earlier abruptness, when you were only trying to help....I am sorry!
21 posted on 08/08/2007 6:05:36 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks for posting this. I found out that I live less than five miles from the one in York County South Carolina.


22 posted on 08/08/2007 6:07:49 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: NewMediaJournal

My apology to you as well. I made a mess of this thread, because of my ignorance....I am sorry!


23 posted on 08/08/2007 6:07:55 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: PapaBear3625

Sir: I owe you an apology also....I am sorry!


24 posted on 08/08/2007 6:18:17 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks very much for the links. BTTT!


25 posted on 08/08/2007 6:42:45 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: NewMediaJournal
The FBI can’t shut it down because it remains listed as a religious community and, since war has not been officially declared by Congress, the War Powers Act and the Smith Act, which would permit such intrusion, are not in effect.

Has Congress officially declared war or not? Some say that when they authorized use of force that was as good as a declaration although they didn't include the specific words. I thought some court had ruled it was so. This implies otherwise. The uncertainly only helps the Dems and our other enemies. At the time one of the arguements against a declaration was all the laws that would automatically be triggered by such although Congress could certainly have blocked any particular concerns with additional language in the declaration. This sounds like one of those automatic laws would be a good thing. The time to do this, as a few argued then, was right after 9/11 when the libs wouldn't have dared to stop it. Had Congress used the word "War" then Edwards couldn't make his bumper stick joke now and the MSM insurgency would be much less effective. Just more evidence of the wisdom of the Founding Fathers. Realistically we won't fix this with the current Congress.

26 posted on 08/08/2007 6:54:12 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: NewMediaJournal; piasa; Clovis_Skeptic; Travis McGee; Shermy; ladyinred; Jim Robinson; ...

Thanks to Clovis Skeptic, Free Republic has been tracking these home grown wanna be Islamofascist serial killers for a long time. In fact two became serial killers known as the DC snipers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/566591/posts

Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno?
KFSN TV 30 Fresno, CA ^ | 11-07-01 | Kevin Quinn

Posted on 11/08/2001 8:14:41 AM PST by Clovis_Skeptic

Why is there an Islamic Village in the foothills near Fresno? There’s an airstrip and neighbors complain of gunfire. Kevin Quinn takes you inside Baladullah, California.

Sorry, no transcript as of now. Video only. Worth the effort to view.

The video provides a look at this compound in the foothills above Fresno, CA. Pre 9-11, a Fresn County Sheriffs deputy was killed by a member of this peaceful Islamic community. The suspect (in the beginning trial phase still) broke into a empty nearby foothill home, when deputies arrived this guy was lying in the hallway floor with a rifle, and killed one deputy. This video is the first investigative reporting we have had on this Islamic community. The trail leads to FUQRA, a known terrorist group operating all over the world, and have several communities such as this one all over the USA.

Here is an excerpt from an article of the Sacramento Bee...

California links of terrorists probed:
Federal and state investigators try to unearth ‘sleeper’ agents.

By Sam Stanton and Andy Furillo

Bee Staff Writers
(Published Sept. 30, 2001)

The compound Beyond seeking out ties to bin Laden-linked terrorist networks, officials are keeping tabs on another Islamic group near Fresno because of the recent killing of a sheriff’s deputy in an area home, apparently stemming from a botched burglary.(this was no burglary according to all accounts)

There is no evidence that the Fresno group has been involved in any terrorist activities, officials say.

The group, according to a federal source, is part of Fuqra, an organization whose name means “poverty” in Arabic and which has had compounds in several U.S. areas.

Some Fuqra members in other areas have been implicated in past years in domestic terrorist attacks, and the State Department has labeled the group, known formally as Jamaat ul-Fuqra, as “an Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.”

The group south of Fresno operates an 1,800-acre compound called the International Quranic Open University, which sits on the former site of the drug addiction recovery cult Synanon.

The compound, a series of mobile homes shaded by trees, also serves as a U-Haul rentals location. A resident there last week refused to talk to a reporter, referring inquiries to a Visalia attorney who did not respond to a message seeking information.

Authorities have been studying the compound since the Aug. 21 slaying of Fresno County Sheriff’s Deputy Erik Telen. Officials charged 20-year-old Ramadan Abdur-Rauf Abdullah with murder in the killing, apparently stemming from a botched burglary at a rural home.

James Oppliger, Fresno County’s chief deputy district attorney, said the suspect claimed he had been living at the compound seeking psychiatric treatment from the Quranic university.

Oppliger said he since has begun studying the group and its possible connections to other organizations.

(Zavia Books) is the bookstore for this Islamic compound. It is called Koranic Open University. Note the books being sold. One of them is prefaced by ( Sheik Mubarik Ali Shah Jilani [Gilani]) a known terrorist. The trail leads from Baladullah (actually Miramonte, CA) to Pakistan, where Sheik Gilani lives. He is the head of Fuqra.


27 posted on 08/08/2007 6:54:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illegal aliens = Crimaliens!)
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To: NewMediaJournal; piasa; Clovis_Skeptic; Travis McGee; Shermy; ladyinred; Jim Robinson; ...

The Free Republic al Fuqra keyword search below reveals a long and scary history of these home grown Islamofacists.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=alfuqra

Homeland Security worries about being PC in our airports and across the land, while these potential serial killers are apparently ignored by Homeland Security, the FBI and state and local law enforcement.


28 posted on 08/08/2007 6:59:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illegal aliens = Crimaliens!)
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To: piasa

Thanks for the ping.

Our government at all levels continues to ignore these home grown wanna be Islamofascist serial killers.


29 posted on 08/08/2007 7:01:24 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illegal aliens = Crimaliens!)
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To: goldstategop; rellimpank; XeniaSt

Buena Vista, Colorado ?


30 posted on 08/08/2007 7:45:11 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

—wondered about that too—was visiting there Saturday—


31 posted on 08/08/2007 7:47:35 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Jim Robertson
Sir: If I have done anything on this thread which you would deem inappropriate.....My apology to you, Sir.

I am presently beating myself about the head, neck, arms, and fingers for what I deem I did wrong...If you, Sir, would like to help me beat myself about the head, neck, arms, fingers (whatever) please be my guest. Again, Sir, my apology!

32 posted on 08/08/2007 7:50:59 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: rellimpank

Where are there firing ranges and obstacle courses in BV ?


33 posted on 08/08/2007 7:58:39 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: From One - Many

No trouble.

:-)


34 posted on 08/08/2007 8:02:13 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: george76

—dunno-I visited a mountain plant nursery-—


35 posted on 08/08/2007 8:10:49 AM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Jim Robinson
I surrender Sir. This day started too early, and I have made too many mistakes on this thread.

Sir: If I have done anything on this thread which you would deem inappropriate.....My apology to you, Sir. I am presently beating myself about the head, neck, arms, and fingers for what I deem I did wrong...If you, Sir, would like to help me beat myself about the head, neck, arms, fingers (whatever) please be my guest. Again, Sir, my apology!

Post was meant to be to you, Sir, at #32

(Tail tucked between legs, expecting kitties.)

36 posted on 08/08/2007 8:39:10 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: upchuck

Holy Islamville, York County - South Carolina.

South Carolina Ping?

37 posted on 08/08/2007 8:41:24 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Grampa Dave
If you want to research something scary, research the Zebra Killers from the 1970's:
The Zebra murders were the work of the Death Angels, a group within the black nationalist group, the Nation of Islam. According to the NOI's beliefs, the white race was created by a black mad scientist named Yakub, who, some say, wanted a race of inferiors to rule over. Furthermore, the Death Angels believed that they could earn "points" towards Paradise when they died if they killed as many whites as possible. The NOI's teachings presented whites not as human beings, but variously as "blue-eyed devils," "white devils," and "grafted snakes."

Candidates would be invited to secret meetings at the NOI-owned Black Self-Help Moving and Storage; to attain the status of Death Angel, each man was expected to kill either nine white men, five white women or four white children. After attaining this goal, a pair of black wings would be attached to his photograph and pinned up in an upstairs room of the self-help building. Although killing was their main goal, death angel candidates would often use machetes to torture victims over long periods, and some women were also the victims of rape.


38 posted on 08/08/2007 8:50:02 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: Grampa Dave
Also see Yahweh ben Yahweh's merry band, another group of serial killers

In India in the 1800's, there was a murder cult called the Thugees. They had been roaming around murdering travelers for probably hundreds of years without being discovered, until the British found out about them and eradicated them

In 21st Century America, we have our own Thuggee bands. But it's too politically incorrect to talk about their existance

39 posted on 08/08/2007 9:40:35 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: Between the Lines; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
Thanks for the ping BtL.

Holy Islam Batman!

The enemy walks among us. Any upstaters have more info on this?

South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.

40 posted on 08/08/2007 10:00:04 AM PDT by upchuck (Today there are 10,000 more illegal aliens in yer country than there were yesterday. 10,000! THINK!)
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To: george76; goldstategop; rellimpank
Buena Vista Colorado

The Raid on the Colorado Compound

In 1989, federal law enforcement officials conducted a raid on the 101 acre ul-Fuqra compound in Colorado Springs, Colorado. They recovered a multitude of handguns with obliterated serial numbers and silencers, semi-automatic weapons, thirty to forty pounds of explosives, three large pipe bombs, improvised explosive devices, shape charges, blank birth certificates, counterfeit Social Security cards, sets of Colorado drivers’ licenses with identical photos and different names, and manuals entitled “Guerilla Warfare” and “Counter-Guerilla Operations.” In addition, they came upon several silhouettes for target practice, including one with the words “FBI Anti-terrorism team” written on the target’s torso bulls-eye. In the course of a subsequent raid on the complex, the feds uncovered a weapons cache of military rifles that included American M-16s and M-14s and Soviet AK-47s.

The FBI now knew without doubt that a militant organization of thousands of African American Islamists were conducting paramilitary training on American soil, but, strange to say, no measures in the halcyon days before 9/11 have been undertaken to ban the group or to shut down the compounds. And so, ul-Fuqra continues to expand on American soil at an unabated rate – one recently popped up in Ailville, Georgia.

The federal officials failed to make note in their official report that the Buena Vista compound had been deeply mined and contained vast underground bunkers that were interconnected by a series of tunnels. The compound is now deserted; the property has been returned to its original owner; but the underground facilities remain virtually intact for all to see.

Mountain Mail may have some news articles..
It was located on Trout Creek Pass.
the entrance was that gate where they did the bridge repair this spring...
Its for sale, $500,000....

41 posted on 08/08/2007 10:18:53 AM PDT by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: george76; goldstategop; rellimpank
al Fuqra, a militant anti-American group similar to al Qaeda

from the Mountain Mail


42 posted on 08/08/2007 10:31:27 AM PDT by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks for the reminder.

I didn’t know about these terrorists until recently and something was posted on FR. Then. there was an interesting semi play on one of the Cable outlets about how England killed them and then put the Indians in charge when they left India.


43 posted on 08/08/2007 11:18:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illegal aliens = Crimaliens!)
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To: PapaBear3625

This Zebra killing serial killers is really scary.

It was basically hidden from us by our wonderful mediots.


44 posted on 08/08/2007 11:20:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illegal aliens = Crimaliens!)
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To: PapaBear3625

The link below provides a look at these Black serial killers, who use machettees to kill and seriously maim innocent white people in the 1970’s in the San Francisco area.


45 posted on 08/08/2007 11:26:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Illegal aliens = Crimaliens!)
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To: From One - Many

“Don’t torture yourself... That’s my job”

- Morticia to Gomez, “The Addams Family” movie


46 posted on 08/08/2007 11:35:57 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (There's more than one way to burn a book. - Ray Bradbury)
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To: XeniaSt; jan in Colorado; colorado tanker; ican'tbelieveit

Thanks for the find :

” the 1993 Chaffee County investigation and arrests of members of a group called al Fuqra, a militant anti-American group similar to al Qaeda, which had a sophisticated encampment and training ground in Chaffee County near Trout Creek Pass. “


47 posted on 08/08/2007 4:17:12 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Sounds like the Colorado operation was shut down quite some time ago.

I wonder if this is old, or if the group is still active elsewhere?

48 posted on 08/08/2007 4:25:16 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: colorado tanker; XeniaSt

It must be time for a road trip :

It was located on Trout Creek Pass...the entrance was that gate where they did the bridge repair this spring...

Its for sale, $500,000....

by XeniaSt


49 posted on 08/08/2007 4:29:23 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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