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To: wagglebee

I am against abortion.
I am horrified by it altogether.
I teach my children the horrors of it.

But that’s the thing, I teach them. I find these trucks to be offensive when they go where children can see them. My nephew was horribly traumatized by one of these at the beach. It wasn’t fair.

They give Pro-Life people a bad name.

Flame away.


8 posted on 08/10/2007 10:44:39 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: netmilsmom

I agree that these images are offensive, but they should be offensive, 3500 abortions a day is far more offensive to me. And yes, they can be particularly traumatic to children, but not nearly as traumatic as the infanticide endured by 50 million babies since 1973.


11 posted on 08/10/2007 10:50:46 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: netmilsmom

Not as traumatized as the victim.

Until the society face up to the evils of abortion, it will never stop, and how can society face up to the evil if we can’t show why it is evil?

The pictures are gruesome because the act is gruesome. I’m sorry but I’m glad your nephew was traumatized, the problem right now is precisely not enough people are traumatized. A million dead babies every year SHOULD traumatize us all. It should make us all scream in abject horror.


13 posted on 08/10/2007 10:56:38 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: netmilsmom
It is a tragedy that it must come to this for people to see that it is a defenseless human being that is killed by abortion.

I wonder though, what kind of name do these trucks give Pro-Choice people?

14 posted on 08/10/2007 10:57:33 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: netmilsmom
My nephew was horribly traumatized by one of these at the beach.

Your nephew was traumatized because the predominant message he gets from his school, his friends, and the media is that this "fetus" thing is not a human being. He should have seen those images within the framework of his moral training by his family.

May his trauma develop into activism within his age group to educate his peers that it's a child, not a choice.

15 posted on 08/10/2007 10:59:56 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: netmilsmom

You’re not alone in this opinion. I agree with you completely.


20 posted on 08/10/2007 11:08:31 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: netmilsmom

Tough times require tough people.


23 posted on 08/10/2007 11:10:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: netmilsmom
-your nephew would have been more then traumatized if he’d been aborted.
27 posted on 08/10/2007 11:14:40 AM PDT by tioga
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To: netmilsmom
I find these trucks to be offensive when they go where children can see them.

*************

I agree with you. As adults, it is our job to protect children.

28 posted on 08/10/2007 11:14:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: netmilsmom

“They give Pro-Life people a bad name.”

I prefer you be offended and one or 2 or 3 or more children be traumatized and ultimately see abortion end than to see one more child die at the hands of a murdering abortionist.


33 posted on 08/10/2007 11:19:24 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: netmilsmom

No flames from me. I totally agree with you.


34 posted on 08/10/2007 11:20:13 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: netmilsmom
I find these trucks to be offensive when they go where children can see them.

I understand, but no one stops NARAL and Planned Parenthood and so forth from putting things (i.e. pictures of happy women who have, supposedly, improved their lives through abortion) where children can see them.

My nephew was horribly traumatized by one of these at the beach. It wasn’t fair.

It also isn't fair that he is slowly brainwashed by the things I mention above.

They give Pro-Life people a bad name.

In the view of some.

41 posted on 08/10/2007 11:28:04 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: netmilsmom
You'll get no flames from me. There are so many better ways of taking a stand for life, including the use of the debated images in a manner which will not horrify and traumatize kids.

I lock out most of the channels on our tv. I monitor every book and magazine that comes into our home. I know every note of music my boys listen to. I do everything that I can to introduce them to subjects when I, their mother, know they have reached an appropriate level of maturity. This stunt knocks me right out of the driver's seat. Boils my blood.

If that is the reaction from an ardent pro-lifer like myself, I can only imagine the reactions of the fence-sitters.

48 posted on 08/10/2007 11:35:48 AM PDT by grellis (Femininists for Fred!)
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To: netmilsmom
By your logic, should we wall in Auschwitz for fear that somebody might be “horribly traumatized?
Furthermore, does the Holocaust museum give the curators a bad name?
51 posted on 08/10/2007 11:36:59 AM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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To: netmilsmom
you said “Flame away.”
Ok then...IN COMING!!!

This from your freeper page about you...
“By denying that she ever existed, Disney has altered a classic. It’s wrong. A part of our history is gone. How can I teach my children the sins of the past if we sanitize everything?”

Isn’t it a bit odd for you to post the above quote, as you are so concerned about denying certain truths...hiding part “of our history....teaching [your] children the sins of the past”, yet complain that we need to censure the photos of what abortion is really about?

I thought you didn’t want it “sanatized”? Yet now you are complaining.

You are more concerned about hiding Disney cartoons because they are not PC than you are about revealing that “aborting fetuses” is really killing babies?

huh? Bit of a quagmire for you eh?

61 posted on 08/10/2007 11:48:21 AM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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To: netmilsmom
[.. They give Pro-Life people a bad name. / Flame away. ..]

O.K.... So Then, you are NOT FOR the murder of people(babies) as long "we" keep it quiet and not in your face?..

You know, like the gays, atheists, leftists do constantly...

66 posted on 08/10/2007 12:02:47 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: netmilsmom

I agree about discretion where children are concerned. I was criticized for *overprotecting* my children at that age, but there are some things they just don’t need to see; they’re not mentally,and emotionally mature enough to handle them. My kids never had nightmares and night terrors and if some kid ends up with them because of these images, who’s going to be sitting up at night with them? Certainly not the people that caused it.

Putting something like that at a place that’s family friendly is likely preaching at the choir. If those people feel it ABSOLUTELY necessary to post images of preborn children, there’s many that could be substituted. The classic ones of the fetus sucking his thumb would work well and even a little child would get the message without being traumatized.

It’s hard to look at pictures of a fetus and not see how well they’re developed and how human they look.


67 posted on 08/10/2007 12:03:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: netmilsmom

I understand exactly where you are coming from with this. It would be great to see the picture of the baby’s hand holding the Dr’s finger (Samuel?), or picture of an infant and the words, “I am not an exception or a choice.”


82 posted on 08/10/2007 12:32:02 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: netmilsmom

Sometimes war means doing unpleasant things.


84 posted on 08/10/2007 12:33:57 PM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not the same thing, nor are they mutually exclusive.)
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To: netmilsmom
"My nephew was horribly traumatized by one of these at the beach. It wasn’t fair."

Sorry that your nephew was traumatized. You don't exactly say what the nature of the trauma was, or how it has affected your nephew.

I, too, was traumatized when I was about 8 years old. It was then that I saw the films of the liberation of the Nazi death camps at the end of WWII.

Those films had a profound effect on me -- I suppose you could say they "traumatized" me. They certainly convinced me that what they showed was terribly evil.

And they have left am impression on me. To this day -- almost 50 years after I saw them for the first time -- those "traumatizing" films have served to convince me that that sort of evil must never happen again.

Sometimes "trauma" does have good effects.

87 posted on 08/10/2007 12:37:42 PM PDT by Bob Loblaw
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To: netmilsmom

I agree that the images are traumatic, but that’s the reality of the holocaust that is abortion. The solution is not to do away with the images due to sensitivity, the solution is to do away with abortion.

Besides abortion is far more traumatic to the recipient than it is to anyone else who is looking at those pictures. “Choice”, indeed.


91 posted on 08/10/2007 12:39:41 PM PDT by Deo et Patria (God bless you, President Bush. And God bless America.)
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