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Advocates Call Iraq Marine's Court Martial and Conviction Into Question
The Salem-News ^ | Aug-09-2007 | Tim King

Posted on 08/10/2007 8:53:44 PM PDT by brityank

Aug-09-2007 05:40

Advocates Call Iraq Marine's Court Martial and Conviction Into Question

Former Marines investigating the case say there is far more than meets the eye; the court martial is currently under appeal and review.

Photo of Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins with his lawyer

Photo of Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins with his lawyer
Courtesy: DoD

(SALEM, Ore.) - A Marine convicted for murder in Iraq is receiving increasing public support by those who believe he is not guilty. Marine Sergeant Lawrence Hutchins has been sentenced to 15-years for the killings in the Al Anbar Province of Iraq.

Friends say Hutchins
is innocent

Advocates say a number of the government's dirty secrets bear their load on this Marine, considered by many as a scapegoat.

The particular case in Iraq involves the questionable death of one Iraqi civilian male. Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins III's parents are not taking it in stride; meeting recently with the head of Marine Corps forces in the Middle East in the wake of their son’s conviction for killing an Iraqi civilian.

Marine Lt. Gen James Mattis has been asked to look into inconsistencies that emerged during the recent court martial and consider evidence that was not included in the trial.

Tim Harrington is a personal friend of the Hutchins family who has worked tirelessly on the case.

Advocates of Hutchins like Harrington say the Marine is not the only American combat vet dealing with the "scapegoat" issue; the case of an Army Ranger, SSgt. Ray Girouard, bears unusual similarities to Hutchins’.

Girouard was convicted in March of three counts of negligent homicide for the deaths of three detainees after an Army raid in Iraq in May 2006. Girouard maintains that he was only following orders, as does Hutchins.

Lawrence Hutchins has been in solitary confinement in the Camp Pendleton brig since his conviction and sentencing by a military panel last month. He is now out of solitary confinement. It is reported that he will remain in a multi-man cell until the government decides where he will serve his 15-year sentence.

But a lawyer for Hutchins is preparing papers seeking clemency. It seems there were many questionable aspects to his General Court martial. The case was also automatically forwarded to the Navy-Marine Court of Criminal Appeal for review.

The Deloitte connection

Americans are well aware of the billions of dollars of income that the Iraq War has meant for defense contractors. They might be surprised to learn however, that this relatively quiet "accounting" firm Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu has been active in the Al Anbar Province of Iraq for many years. Their psychologists were used to examine Marine Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins.

Marine Sergeant Lawrence Hutchins
during his court martial

A group of former marines have been studying the history of the Al Anbar province during 2003-2006. They believe they have put together a fairly clear view of a somewhat larger picture that takes the Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu firm and military court martial practices into account.

For the most part, Deloitte claims to be an accounting firm.

Former Marine Warren Bonesteel alleges that they were involved in the outcome of Hutchin's court martial.

"What we do know for certain is that Deloitte was - and is - directly and indirectly involved in Al Anbar province, and, for our present purposes, specifically in Haditha. We also know that NCIS uses contracted Deloitte psychologists. The same psychologists may have been used by both defense and prosecution legal teams in order to examine the Marines in question. We know that NCIS operatives, 'managers', and even the NCIS director himself, have gone to work for Deloitte in the two and some odd years since the incident in question.

Bonesteel says NCIS was in control of intelligence operations in Al Anbar during 2004, including the publishing of propaganda. Problems associated with that effort were later blamed on the platoon/company of combat Marines in question. Bonesteel points out that combat Marines don't do twenty million dollars worth of publishing.

"We also know that Deloitte or its subsidiaries and alliances handle the 'auditing' and business 'consulting' for a great many of the contractors and sub-contractors in Al Anbar province as well as in other areas of Iraq.

These include construction, healthcare, Internet Technology, transportation, private security firms, food and facilities management, oil industry manufacturing and experts, hydroelectric, banking, labor, education, etc., and so on. NCIS also has several other contracts with Deloitte and its subsidiaries.

He says his research also shows that men like William Delahunt, John Murtha and others, including most of those who sit on various appropriations committees, receive more than half of their campaign contributions from Deloitte and from its subsidiaries or "alliances."

Others on that list include Walter B. Jones, Trent Lott and Nancy Pelosi.

"We know that Deloitte directly or indirectly handles a great many, if not most, of the contracts going into the Pentagon, including retirement, life insurance and healthcare. We know that Deloitte also handles the money and business consulting for most of the companies and conglomerates who contract with the Pentagon. We know that Deloitte and it's subsidiaries and 'alliances' have lobbyists all over D.C. and in every state capitol in America."

He says they have offices and lobbyists in nearly every national capitol and, seemingly, in almost every provincial and state capitol in the world.

"We know that men like Delahunt also have direct and indirect connections to known terrorist supporters and to lobbyists with both direct and indirect ties to Deloitte. Among these groups and lobbyists are individuals, banks, and groups directly and indirectly associated with CAIR, the ISNA, MAS, the Muslim Brotherhood and other Muslim individuals, groups and organizations on a national and international basis. Deloitte is also involved directly and indirectly handling financing for those same groups and organizations."

Bonesteel says most of these individuals, and almost all of the organizations, are known to actively support Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Queda, among other terrorist and jihadist groups. "And we have Delahunt's staff lawyer currently sitting in the courtrooms of these court martials, and allowed to wander about them quite freely, including 'advising' the prosecution's legal teams."

He says that Deloitte has had - and continues to have - business dealings with Iran, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, and others committed to the open or subversive destruction of America.

"We know that several of those nations are actively involved in supporting terrorist operations in Iraq and around the world."

He says that what the don't know at the moment, is what specific event or series of events, or series of 'business deal' began what he calls the slide towards having our fighting men and women prosecuted for 'murdering' the enemies of America in known combat zones.

"Killing the enemy is what they get paid for. In a combat zone, on an active battlefield, killing the other guy first has always been considered to be a measure of success by military strategists and tacticians throughout history."

The Marine's friend says that even with the above mentioned issues aside, there are glaring problems with the military justice system.

"For example, there is no outside accountability, and the military's Senior SNCO and staff level officer ranks are relatively small, almost inbred, communities. NCIS has little or no accountability to anyone, anywhere. NCIS has also begun 'civilian' operations within the United States, most notably within the state of Washington. JAG isn't much better."

He says the public needs to be on the lookout over "questionable" principles employed during these Iraq War court martials. That includes future NCIS and JAG officers' promotions, future options regarding choices of military assignments and deployments, and future civilian employment/careers and other forms of "remuneration."

Bonesteel suspects that within two to four years, they and/or their proteges will make surprising leaps in their careers and financial well-being.

"In any case, we well understand why Delahunt, Walter B Jones and a dozen others on both sides of the aisle have completely ignored our efforts to bring to light evidence that will exonerate the Haditha Marines...and prove their innocence. General Mattis is also quite aware of what we have presented."

As for the case of Army SSgt Ray Girouard, the town of Sweetwater, Tennessee is maintaining a vigilant show of support. A sign hanging in the middle of town states: “SSgt. Ray Girouard Fought For Us, Now We Fight For Him.”

"This is such a small, close community. He grew up in this community and they just felt responsible for Ray," one of his neighbors said.

In this small Tennessee town fundraisers and cash donations have flowed in, allowing them to hire a private attorney for Girouard and help his family pay expenses. Despite his conviction, the community continues to believe in Girouard’s innocence and say they support his ongoing bid for clemency.

In the meanwhile, citizens of Sweetwater are paying for Girouard to get a college education while serving a 10 year prison term.

Larry Orr is the pastor of the First Assembly of God church in Sweetwater. He says the town is conservative and pro-establishment for the most part, but they quickly sensed something was wrong, based on what they knew of Girouard.

"We all felt pretty early on there we were left with plenty of reason to believe that our guy did not out and out murder anybody," Orr stated.

The local VFW in Hutchin's hometown quietly assisted the family with travel expenses. Friends have provided support through the sale of “Free Larry” T-shirts. Harrington hopes to expand the effort in the weeks to come. Friends of the family hope to generate support for Hutchins with a town meeting that will take a closer look at the case and the inconsistencies that developed during last week’s court martial.

According to the Marine's advocates, "The fight has just begun."



TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courtmartial; hamdania; hutchins; iraq; marines; pendleton8
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Like Haditha, the JAG, NCIS, and Officer Corps has screwed, blued, and tattooed these Marines to a fare-thee-well -- which is the only thing they will get; their names and reputations are forever sullied, as is the US Marine Corps.

Lt. Gen. James Mattis -- YOU, Sir, need to initiate an investigation of both JAG and NCIS for their activities in both of these cases.

1 posted on 08/10/2007 8:53:51 PM PDT by brityank
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; freema; Blue Ribbon Mom; lilycicero; smoothsailing; ...

Went looking at the MSM, and found this. Thought it made some good points, and added more info to the background.


2 posted on 08/10/2007 8:55:13 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

It is rather interesting to note that these weird and twisted prosecutions tend to focus on the USMC. I realize there are other bizarro type show trials held on other branch soldiers, but the greater bulk of them fall on Marines.


3 posted on 08/10/2007 9:09:30 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: brityank
Good work, yank. This stinks to high heaven.
4 posted on 08/10/2007 9:10:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Liberal ideas can be hilarious in peacetime, in wartime they're life-threatening)
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To: Grimmy

America is both fascinated by, and terrified of Marines.


5 posted on 08/10/2007 9:11:10 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("What quails?" asked Jack)
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To: brityank
"Bonesteel says NCIS was in control of intelligence operations in Al Anbar during 2004, including the publishing of propaganda."

Can anyone comment on why civilian, criminal investigation unit would be in charge of intelligence?

This deserves more study.

6 posted on 08/10/2007 9:21:08 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Eagles6

That doesn’t sound plausible. A civilian agency was in control of intelligence operations in the most dangerous province in Iraq? Doubt it.


7 posted on 08/10/2007 9:32:03 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: LongElegantLegs

The chicom command put the bulk of its effort into the attempt to destroy the “yellow legs” at beginning of their offensive. It was their belief that for so long as the Marines existed as a combat capable unit in Korea, the US could not be defeated.

Sometime during the mid to late ‘70s, it became official soviet military policy to not attempt to take Marines as POW if in a war. Any Marines captured were to be executed at point of capture.

I wonder who’s play book these prosecutions are coming from?


8 posted on 08/10/2007 9:32:51 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: brityank

Thanks for the post. Though I must say I don’t get this whole “Deloitte connection” thing. Sounds a little like the moonbats talking about Diebolt stealing elections for Republicans.


9 posted on 08/10/2007 9:35:25 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

The CIA itself is a quasi-civilian agency and much of their “work” is now distributed through the same contract system that leeched so much from our military capability by legislative order.

The Peace Dividend. Sacrifices had to be made to support an ever growing welfare system, doncha know. Gotta prioritize.


10 posted on 08/10/2007 9:35:40 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

I still don’t get what is it that NCIS is supposed to have done in Anbar province, and how that connects to any of this.


11 posted on 08/10/2007 9:38:45 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Grimmy; RedRover

Btw, I have no clue if anything in that article regarding the contract company is true fact or not. Most of my knee-jerkiness in my comments in this thread is simple disgust at how my fellow Marines are being treated by our gov. and the legal operatives within our service.


12 posted on 08/10/2007 9:40:04 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
It's Murtha doing this....you don't see any other politician going after any other branches of the military only murtha ex-marine colonel...we're praying this will blow up in his face!!!! [and it appears it is blowing up in his face]


13 posted on 08/10/2007 9:40:25 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Grimmy

Roger that!


14 posted on 08/10/2007 9:40:39 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
That doesn’t sound plausible. A civilian agency was in control of intelligence operations in the most dangerous province in Iraq? Doubt it.

Unfortunately, there does seem to have been a big trend toward privatization of our intelligence and national security operations..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/06/AR2007070601993.html

Up to 50%?? That's a scary thought...

15 posted on 08/10/2007 9:41:04 PM PDT by blade_tenner
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To: RedRover; Grimmy
That has me puzzled, too. I'm doing some digging to see what is out there.

I did find a link that seems to cover all of the military cases: Pittsburgh University's Jurist. It's loaded with left-wing moonbattery, but it's a start.

16 posted on 08/10/2007 9:41:44 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: RedRover

I guess the CIA would be considered “civilian” but ncis? BTW I’ve got to read Rowan Scarborough’s new book regarding traitors within.


17 posted on 08/10/2007 9:45:48 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: blade_tenner; RedRover
Get this:

Private companies now perform key intelligence-agency functions, to the tune, I'm told, of more than $42 billion a year. Intelligence professionals tell me that more than 50 percent of the National Clandestine Service (NCS) -- the heart, brains and soul of the CIA -- has been outsourced to private firms such as Abraxas, Booz Allen Hamilton, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

These firms recruit spies, create non-official cover identities and control the movements of CIA case officers. They also provide case officers and watch officers at crisis centers and regional desk officers who control clandestine operations worldwide. As the Los Angeles Times first reported last October, more than half the workforce in two key CIA stations in the fight against terrorism -- Baghdad and Islamabad, Pakistan -- is made up of industrial contractors, or "green badgers," in CIA parlance.

So that leads credence to the Deloitte connection and NCIS.

18 posted on 08/10/2007 9:48:01 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank; All

A currious person doesn’t have to dig too deep to find a number of incredible successes in hostile infiltration by our enemy in this war.

CAIR, legalized protection for wahabist jihadi preaching and recruitment in our prison systems (both state and federal), islamists prominently showcased as lecturers in universities, moles, both foreign infiltrators and US born language specialists uncovered in our intel and military translation services, etc etc.

If the historical perspective approach is taken, and the known link between the old soviet kgb and the islamist terror organizations is acknowledged, it would be safer to assume we’ve been penetrated and subverted in any number of applicable areas, rather than assuming that we’re secure.


19 posted on 08/10/2007 9:48:26 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Eagles6
NCIS is civilian, look at
20 posted on 08/10/2007 9:51:15 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Eagles6
Sorry.

Try NCIS ^

21 posted on 08/10/2007 9:53:30 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
Sorry, my poor sentence composition led to an erroneous thingamabob. I do know that the ncis is civilian, which was the premise of my first post.

What I meant to say is that the CIA is also "civilian" and I could see them having a role in intelligence in anbar but not the ncis which is a civilian, criminal investigative outfit.

22 posted on 08/10/2007 9:59:26 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: brityank

Where did this come from?


23 posted on 08/10/2007 10:01:05 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Grimmy; All
If the historical perspective approach is taken, and the known link between the old soviet kgb and the islamist terror organizations is acknowledged, it would be safer to assume we’ve been penetrated and subverted in any number of applicable areas, rather than assuming that we’re secure.

Now maybe I'll sound like a moonbat, but I have come to believe that the subjugation of our American society has been ongoing in fits and starts since the Federalists had to compromise with the Anti-Federalists to get the Constitution enacted. That subjugation really got a boost at the start of the 20th Century -- The Federal Reserve, the 16th and 17th Amendments, and the battles against socialism of all stripes.

We lose America -- there's no place else to go. Then what ...

24 posted on 08/10/2007 10:05:17 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Eagles6

The link at #15 by blade_tenner.


25 posted on 08/10/2007 10:07:47 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

Thanks.


26 posted on 08/10/2007 10:12:31 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: cindy-true-supporter; trooprally

Read the entire article. Alarming.


27 posted on 08/10/2007 10:59:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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To: brityank

Something doesn’t smell right. Supposedly, Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu is an auditing firm. So why might their psychologists “have been used by both defense and prosecution legal teams in order to examine the Marines in question?” They wouldn’t have any such psychologists on their payroll. Or would they?

Of what possible use would the following employee be to an auditing firm? This is a biography of any employee at Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, from their own website.


http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/employee_profile/0,1007,sid%3D2228&cid%3D149626,00.html .

Meet Dr. Michael G. Gelles
Senior Manager, Deloitte & Touche LLP

Dr. Michael Gelles is currently a senior manager with Deloitte and Touche LLP’s Federal practice in Washington, D.C., consulting in the areas of human capital management and systems and operations.

Previously, he was the chief psychologist for the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) for more than 16 years. In that capacity, he assisted the NCIS and a multitude of other federal, state and local law enforcement agencies with criminal, counterintelligence and counterterrorism investigations and operations. He was the lead psychologist for the behavioral consultation team for the Criminal Investigations Task Force, and a member of numerous other task forces in the areas of workplace violence, insider threat and ethics in consultation to national security. Prior to joining the NCIS in 1990, Dr. Gelles served as a clinical psychologist for the U.S. Navy.

He is active in a number of professional organizations, including the American Psychological Association Division of Police Psychology, the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the Psychology Services Section, the Society of Police and Criminal Psychology, and the Association of Threat Assessment Professionals. Dr. Gelles is also a frequent lecturer and has published numerous professional papers on topics related to organizational management in operational settings, forensic psychology, law enforcement, terrorism and counterintelligence.

Dr. Gelles received his Bachelor of Arts from the University of Delaware and his master’s and doctorate degrees in psychology from Yeshiva University in New York. He completed his clinical and forensic training at the National Naval Medical School and his advanced training at the Washington School of Psychiatry. He held academic appointments in psychiatry at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences and at the Washington School of Psychiatry.

Contact us for more information

Source: Deloitte & Touche USA LLP - United States (English)


28 posted on 08/10/2007 11:00:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Ž)
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To: BykrBayb; RedRover; Grimmy; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; smoothsailing
Interesting find, BB. If there was any doubt that the corporations are running roughshod over our government, this subtracts from it.

What do the rest of you think? [It's getting late here, so I'll check back tomorrow.]

29 posted on 08/10/2007 11:11:36 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Albion Wilde; cindy-true-supporter; trooprally
Follow up with the link in #15 for desert.             :^)
30 posted on 08/10/2007 11:13:50 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: BykrBayb; RedRover
How's this grab you for a cut-out operation:
Deloitte refers to one or more of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, a Swiss Verein, its member firms, and their respective subsidiaries and affiliates. As a Swiss Verein (association), neither Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu nor any of its member firms has any liability for each other’s acts or omissions. Each of the member firms is a separate and independent legal entity operating under the names “Deloitte,” “Deloitte & Touche,” “Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu,” or other related names. Services are provided by the member firms or their subsidiaries or affiliates and not by the Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Verein.

Deloitte & Touche USA LLP is the U.S. member firm of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu. In the United States, services are provided by the subsidiaries of Deloitte & Touche USA LLP (Deloitte & Touche LLP, Deloitte Consulting LLP, Deloitte Financial Advisory Services LLP, Deloitte Tax LLP, and their subsidiaries), and not by Deloitte & Touche USA LLP.
If that's not a setup to disavow any connection to the US Government, then I'm Maxwell Smart !
31 posted on 08/10/2007 11:24:41 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

I skipped the fine print. Thanks for pointing that out.

Looks like they’re disavowing any connection to themselves.


32 posted on 08/10/2007 11:30:40 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Ž)
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To: brityank; Calpernia; freema

Good catch, yank. This needs more research.


33 posted on 08/10/2007 11:32:23 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Liberal ideas can be hilarious in peacetime, in wartime they're life-threatening)
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To: brityank
John Murtha's office too busy sewing surrender flags to answer phones
34 posted on 08/10/2007 11:37:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Liberal ideas can be hilarious in peacetime, in wartime they're life-threatening)
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To: brityank

Thank ya Brit.

As for the rest of you dogmatic skeptics?

Simple. Do the research...

Fingers meet keyboard. Keyboard. Take me to Google.

Deloite NCIS.

NCIS Haditha.

Deloitte Iran.

Deloitte Syria.

Deloite Al Anbar.

Deloitte Chalabi.

Deloitte JAG.

Deloitte DoD.

Deloitte Pentagon.

etc and so on...

then...take a look at Iraq contractors.

etc. and so on...almost ad infinitum.

I’ve gathered some three hundred pages of material without really trying hard...

At best, we have a single global conglomerate, with a single corporate culture, which is involved in conflicts of interest and undue influence...from here to Iraq and back again..

see also:


http://retheauditors.blogspot.com/2007/08/deloitte-extraordinary-services-in.
html

THURSDAY, AUGUST 09, 2007

Deloitte - Extraordinary Services In Unusual Places

Truth is, nowadays, often stranger than fiction. I am a skeptic by nature but also a realist. If it makes money for someone, it’s probably happening out there.

Why would a mild mannered firm like Deloitte get mixed up in dirty business in Iraq? Well, as I have said before, “...that’s where the money is.” And that’s where the money goes, in order to get these contracts.


http://www.americasvictory08.com/?p=2454


http://retheauditors.blogspot.com/


http://www.topix.net/wire/us/marine-corps


http://www.topix.net/wire/city/salem-or


http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/article/salem-news6337.htm


http://www.californiaconservative.org/


see also:

http://euphoricreality.com/2007/08/09/military-injustice-finally-makes-the-msm/
Military (In)Justice Finally Makes the MSM
 Filed Under (Innocent 8) by Kit Lange on August-9-2007


Reference:
http://plymouth.wickedlocal.com/article.aspx?id=12143&c=cfp
The fight has just begun Hutchins seeking appeal, clemency, friends urge community’s support
August 07, 2007 | Old Colony Memorial
By Rich Harbert, CNC Newspapers


http://www.letfreedomringblog.com/
A Page Has Turned, A Web Exposed

August 10th, 2007 12:00 pm

As you know, Gen. Mattis dropped all charges against Capt. Stone and LCpl. Sharratt. That’s only part of what’s been happening within the military judicial system. I believe this article is a preview of things to come in other cases brought against our military.

Tim Harrington is a personal friend of the Hutchins family who has worked tirelessly on the case.


s.
Warren Bonesteel aka wrsteel@blackhawke.net


35 posted on 08/11/2007 1:29:20 AM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

Oh. BTW.

http://www.ncis.navy.mil/about.asp
About NCIS
NCIS is the primary law enforcement and counterintelligence arm of the United States Department of the Navy. It works closely with other local, state, ...
www.ncis.navy.mil/about.asp - 18k - Cached - Similar pages

...geez...

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36 posted on 08/11/2007 3:11:10 AM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: RedRover
red, not only is this the truth, you can find in the testimony of James Connolly the fact he talked about the flyer's that the Penn. 8 were supposed to have distributed. It was found in the court martial that is was the NCIS and command, Then blamed on these Marines. Before Tail Hook scandal, this branch was the NIS ( Naval Intelligence) Now look into the "LINX" program, It is in a town near you. This is not just plausible but is fact, be very worried. It also operates against the Constitution.
37 posted on 08/11/2007 3:45:55 AM PDT by flightline (they fight for us,We fight for them........!)
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Military (In)Justice Finally Makes the MSM ^
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On Bloggers & Personal ^ 08/09/2007 6:34:01 PM EDT · 2 of 2 ^

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38 posted on 08/11/2007 7:03:00 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: freema; jude24

ping.....hey jude....


39 posted on 08/11/2007 7:43:50 AM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: RedRover

Bones has the documentation on this. It’s foolish to disagree with Bones’ research. I’ve (half) kiddingly told him that he’s a one man data mining operation.

If more people trusted his research, we’d have alot more intelligent people.


40 posted on 08/11/2007 11:48:06 AM PDT by GivingMurthaAShove
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To: shield

We’ll help light the fuse!


41 posted on 08/11/2007 12:18:41 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: GivingMurthaAShove
Bones has the documentation on this.

He claims that NCIS was in charge of intelligence operations in Anbar in 2004. I would like to see the documentation on this, please.

42 posted on 08/11/2007 12:47:29 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: flightline

Trying to keep up with the facts in the immediate cases is enough for me!

I’ve posted pdfs of documents in the Haditha hearings. If there are pdfs of testimony or other documents in the Hamdania cases, I’d love to help get them out there.


43 posted on 08/11/2007 12:55:23 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
Quite frankly, Dave, you aren't worth my time... It isn't a question of schoolyard antics. The question is: red pill or blue pill? The choice is yours. Once you make it, you can never go back. ===== http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2004/12/mil-041228-usmc02.htm NCIS has distinct mission in Iraq's Al Anbar province Marine Corps News Story Identification #: 2004122812245 Story by Cpl. Joel A. Chaverri AL ASAD, Iraq (Dec. 28, 2004) -- Marines and Sailors deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom have a guardian angel: the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. http://www.vegsource.com/talk/flame/messages/5573.html From:  Bart (129.171.32.13)  Subject:       Military Knew of Contractor's Pay-to-Play Media in Iraq  Date:    December 18, 2005 at 9:05 am PST  Military Knew of Contractor's Pay-to-Play Media in Iraq  By Mark Mazzetti and Kevin Sack  The Los Angeles Times  Sunday 18 December 2005 http://eccentricstar.typepad.com/public_diplomacy_weblog_n/iraq_afghanistan/index.html "Navy to Probe Ambassador Cousin's Death," by Robert Reid - AP (Baghdad), 21 Aug 2005 The U.S. military said Sunday it has ordered a criminal investigation into the June death of the 21-year-old cousin of Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations, who alleged that U.S. Marines killed his unarmed relative in cold blood during a raid in western Iraq. Following a preliminary investigation, the case involving the death of Mohammed al-Sumaidaie has been referred to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, or NCIS, for further investigation, the military said in a statement.... Report Concludes US Propaganda in Iraq Not Against Regulations - But Not Effective, Either "US Urged to Stop Paying Iraqi Reporters," by David S. Cloud - the New York Times, 24 May 2006 (registration required) WASHINGTON, May 23 — A Defense Department investigation of Pentagon-financed propaganda efforts in Iraq warns that paying Iraqi journalists to produce positive stories could damage American credibility and calls for an end to military payments to a group of Iraqi journalists in Baghdad, according to a summary of the investigation. http://www.topdog08.com/2005/11/index.html http://dailywarnews.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html ===== NCIS investigations http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/121404.html Department of Navy Documents  (released by the ACLU 12/14/04, by the government 11/23/04) Haditha, Iraq Investigation Timeline http://www.usmc.mil/lapa/Iraq/Haditha/Haditha-Timeline.htm http://www.ncis.navy.mil/NewsDetails.asp?Type=Cur&Id=337 http://www.t-g.com/story/1108254.html "It took the FBI a day to get to Fallujah to begin its investigation," Lapan said. "NCIS (Naval Criminal Investigation Service) joined the investigators. It took considerable time for the FBI and NCIS to interview and obtain statements from witnesses and contractor personnel to provide the commander with enough information to make a reasonable determination." Blanchard asks: How could NCIS "join" an investigation it started before the FBI arrived? NCIS took identification cards provided by the contractor hired by the Army Corps of Engineers. http://www.cusnc.navy.mil/articles/2005/62.htm Director Recognizes NCIS Special Agents in Bahrain By Photographer's Mate 1st Class Curt Cooper, COMUSNAVCENT/5th Fleet Public Affairs MANAMA, Bahrain -- The director of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) recognized several special agents and an investigator from the NCIS, Middle East Field Office, June 15, for their superior achievements in Iraq. "We are doing unique things in that theater-- these gentlemen did things in that theater-- that others cannot, have not, and may not be able to do in the future," said NCIS Director David Brant. "They volunteered to be there and their work had a significant impact." security contractor photos in Iraq http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39552 http://thehill.com/business--lobby/former-ncis-director-makes-lateral-move-to-the-recreational-sector-2006-05-23.html Former NCIS director makes 'lateral move to the recreational sector'   By Roxana Tiron   May 23, 2006  David Brant had 15 seconds of fame on CBS’s Tuesday hit show “NCIS.” As part of what he calls his CBS retirement gift, Brant, the former director of the real NCIS, or Navy Criminal Investigative Service, got to play himself in a scene with the show’s leading actor, Mark Harmon. All Brant had to say in response to Harmon’s brief remark on his retirement was, “I like to refer to it as a lateral move to the recreational sector.” It took all of four hours to shoot the 15 seconds. Brant earlier this year accepted an offer to become a consultant for Deloitte’s public- and private-sector practice in homeland security and justice. (http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/home/0,1044,sid%25253D2000,00.html) http://accounting.smartpros.com/x39807.xml But USAID abruptly put the job out for competitive bidding after a consortium led by Booz Allen Hamilton, Deloitte & Touche and IBM Global Services complained to the agency and Congress that it had been shut out of the process. http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/default.asp?ArticleID=24877 Centrecom signs contract with Deloitte  Ireland-based broadband provider, Centrecom has signed a contract with Deloitte to facilitate home working by Deloitte employees. http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=12808110 BearingPoint Gears Up For Iraq Rebuilding   Firm prepares for wiped-out IT infrastructure and safety risks  By Paul McDougall  InformationWeek   August 4, 2003 12:00 AM (From the August 4, 2003 issue)    "We usually go in when the bullets have stopped. Trouble is, they haven't stopped yet," says Tom DeGarmo, a BearingPoint consultant who could be headed to Iraq as soon as this week to help rebuild the country's computing infrastructure. http://www.citizenworks.org/news/index.php?id=209 CAOB PCAOB reports find major deficiencies in audits of Ernst & Young, PricewaterhouseCoopers The Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB) has completed its audits of Ernst & Young and PricewaterhouseCoopers, and the results are not pretty. The PCAOB found that eight of E&Y's audits and 30 of PwC's audits were so big that the accounting firms failed to obtain "sufficient competent evidential matter." These audits contained deficiencies of "such significance" that regulators may call into question their assessments of company finances. In one case, E&Y did not even properly assess whether it was appropriate for a client to count a divested business as a discontinued operation. In nine cases, PwC did not properly confirm accounts receivable.Now, the PCAOB has completed reports of all of the Big Four accounting firms. Last month, it found deficiencies in six percent of audits by Deloitte & Touche and 25 percent of audits by KPMG. Ginn Weblog: Trade Archives ASIL Insights: Iraq Reconstruction Contracts ... See also this press release, issued at 6:26pm today by JetBlue, "JetBlue Retains Deloitte & Touche to ... blogs.fletcher.tufts.edu/ ginnblog/archives/cat_trade.html - 25k - http://www.conferencepage.com/mcndirect/issues/mcndirect020603.asp#1 1. DELOITTE CONSULTING IN ABOUT TURN  Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu has made a dramatic U-turn, deciding to integrate Deloitte Consulting back into its audit business after the consultancy failed to complete a management buyout plan (MCN Direct Vol. 2 No. 13). The integration is due to be completed in a few weeks' time and will create a single organisation that combines Deloitte Consulting with Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu's business consulting and human capital practices. http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=8297257662296⟨=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE2 Millions wasted on Navy boat barriers Rules skirted, defects abound in effort to protect ships from terror attacks By Scott Higham and Robert O'Harrow Jr.  Updated: 1:45 a.m. CT May 24, 2007 The men from al-Qaeda guided their bomb-laden skiff through the harbor and drew near the USS Cole, detonating a quarter-ton of C-4 plastic explosive that killed 17 sailors and tore a 40-foot hole in the side of the Navy destroyer. Eventually, NCIS investigated its own contract. NCIS officials said the GSA had "responsibility for ensuring that contracts are properly awarded and executed." An NCIS spokesman declined to elaborate or discuss the allegations, saying "there is a joint, ongoing criminal investigation into this matter." Northern was told by NCIS officials to hire P-Con Consulting of Alexandria. The company's sole employee was Patrick Condon, who already worked as a security consultant to NCIS. Condon received a title for his role in the project: deputy program manager for Navy boat barriers. re: Brandt: http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=8297257662296⟨=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE2 http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/employee_profile/0,1007,sid=2228&cid=149625,00.html
44 posted on 08/11/2007 2:26:27 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/08/convicted-marine-hutchins-gains-public.html#links
SATURDAY, AUGUST 11, 2007
 
 Convicted Marine Hutchins Gains Public Support
Thanks to Papa Ray for sending this story on the court marshal of Haditha marine Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins from the Salem News:

Marine Sergeant Lawrence Hutchins during his court martial. (Salem News)


45 posted on 08/11/2007 3:10:30 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

will murtha apologize - Topic Powered by eve community
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070809174227.xs57kf1r&show_article=1 ·
Advocates Call Iraq Marine’s Court Martial and Conviction Into Question ...
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46 posted on 08/11/2007 4:00:58 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

Oh, crud, not this crap again. What happened to your sock puppet?

This is a discussion forum. If you’re not willing to coherently discuss the results of your Googling, threads like this one can’t go anywhere.


47 posted on 08/11/2007 4:12:30 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: rwsteel; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

Will murtha apologize?
http://www.theorator.com/senate.html
House
http://www.theorator.com/government/house.html

Special Agent Greg Hull-Ryde was recognized for his work in the Strategic Counter-Intelligence Directorate (SCID), Baghdad. SCID is a joint effort charged with conducting counter-intelligence operations throughout the Iraqi theater.

“I volunteered because I knew it would be a unique opportunity to work closely with the other services in a wartime environment. I knew the work was going to be challenging,” Hull-Ryde said. “I knew it was going to be exciting, and it turned out to be all of those things.”

Brant also praised the NCIS Middle East Field Office for its far-reaching influence throughout the 5th Fleet area of responsibility.

“The NCIS mission consists of criminal investigative support, counter-terrorism support, counter-intelligence support,” said Brant. “Wherever the fleet deploys, wherever there is a naval presence, our special agents are typically in advance of or next to that presence providing counter-terrorism, force protection and counter-intelligence support.”
http://www.cusnc.navy.mil/articles/2005/62.htm

Ping to bones’ Post#44


48 posted on 08/11/2007 4:16:07 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: rwsteel

What are the odds of finding more info on one of the incidents referenced in your Post #44, moments ago.....

By DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer Sat Aug 11, 2:10 PM ET

Sixteen American security guards were arrested and jailed by U.S. Marines in battle-scarred Fallujah in 2005 following a day of shooting incidents in which they allegedly fired on a Marine observation post, a combat patrol and civilians walking and driving in the city, about 40 miles west of Baghdad.
The guards, employed by Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, were imprisoned for three days. “They were detained because their actions posed a threat to coalition forces. I would say that constitutes a serious event,” Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Dave Lapan said at the time.
The contractors were released and returned to the U.S., where they claimed the Marines humiliated and taunted them in prison, calling them “mercenaries” and intimidating them with dogs. The private guards denied taking part in the shootings.
Last year, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service closed its criminal investigation of the case “for lack of prosecutive merit,” a spokesman said. None of the 16 men where charged.
But days after the shootings, Marine Maj. Gen. Stephen T. Johnson, commander of western Iraq, banned the 16 contractors from every military installation in the area.
In letters to each man, the general wrote: “Your convoy was speeding through the city and firing shots indiscriminately, some of which impacted positions manned by U.S. Marines.
“Your actions endangered the lives of innocent Iraqis and U.S. service members in the area.”
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49 posted on 08/11/2007 4:30:07 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: brityank

Sound like Deletoite is like the Illuminati...

They are all over the world, running everything from the shadows. They wrote the EU constitution, and then counted the votes to reject it....

You note that the lawyer is not asserting the facts. Usually that means that the facts are not in his clients favor.

Sounds like the lawyer would like to get his guy off on the coattails of the Haditha unit. If he can, I would be surprised. I imagine that most of the people on the jury had been in combat recently. That is the way it is supposed to be.


50 posted on 08/11/2007 4:46:41 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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