[meyer]

"You serve. You have to do something for your country," he said.

And what does this worthless idiot think that the thousands of tax dollars confiscated from my income is? That IS giving something to my country.

[Mumbles]

A draft will be a POSITIVE thing. 1. It will re-instill a sense of ownership and pride in our country. 2. Illegals will avoid the draft and thus coming to the US. 3. The “immigrants” who have come here will have to learn ENGLISH (hard to give orders in 115 languages). 4. the same immigrants will learn WE do have a culture which they must learn and become assimilated. 5. The recruits and their families will learn personal hygiene and American etiquette... and that is only the start of it.

[yldstrk]

The idea of a draft is NOT an option!!!

Drafted soldiers are NOT what we need.

We need the professional fighting men we have. America will NEVER return to a draft system. Period.

It’s a Democratic scare tactic.

[Polonius]

Even if a draft were immediately enacted, how long would it take for those draftees to be ready for deployment? Furthermore, how much more would it cost? Somehow I doubt it’s worthwhile or helpful at this point. The potential cost would be better spent on recruiting and retention efforts.

[airborne]

So let Rangel offer it up as a bill.

I guarantee you he will not vote for his own bill, if his Dem friends even allow it to come up for a vote.

Charlie is a manure salesman with a mouth full of samples.

[ReignOfError]

I’m gonna leave aside, for the moment, whether we should have a draft. If we must have one, this is the draft I would like to see.

Everyone serves. No exceptions, no exemptions, very few deferrals. If you are physically and mentally capable, you’re on. And when I say physically capable, there are plenty of productive and accomplished people in wheelchairs — that’s not an out.

Military service is voluntary and subject to screening for fitness. If you choose not to serve in the military, or are rejected, other options could include serving in the Peace Corps, cleaning up trash n the highway, building bridges, teaching in the inner city or rural areas, hosing off graffiti, helping the elderly, cleaning up state and national parks, producing educational materials, and so on. There are plenty of areas of need.

When I say very few deferments, here’s what I mean: Obviously, if you’re ill, you can defer until you’re healthier. If you’re a med student, you can defer until you’re a doctor — you’ll be more helpful that way. If you’re a new mom, you can defer until the kid’s ready for day care.

If you fail to serve, you are permanently ineligible for any government assistance aside from the bare essentials — no mortgage programs, pell grants, student loans, SBA loans, and so on. Ever. For life. You are also permanently ineligible for any non-elected government job (I don’t like restrictions on elected offices, because that’s what voters are for).

Permanent resident aliens are required to serve under the same rules as citizens. At the conclusion of their service, they move to the front of the line for citizenship. They still must complete all the requirements for same.

I’m not sure what to do about foreigners on visas — it doesn’t seem quite right to impose service on, say, an Israeli student who’s already done his compulsory service in israel. So I’d say if you’re here on a visa, with asylum, or for that matter illegally, service is voluntary. But you will not be eligible for citizenship or a green card until you’ve finished.

[Badeye]

Rangel voted against his own ‘reinstate the draft’ legislation.

And I’ve never heard of the General quoted.

[PurpleMan]

Lute and Rangel - joined at the hip. All that’s needed to know about Lute.

Maybe that’s why he was minimized to his position as “War Czar.”