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1 posted on 08/12/2007 5:46:08 PM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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To: ConservativeofColor

Draft! Yippy! It’s gotten a tad dull having the most professional and motivated military in history.


2 posted on 08/12/2007 5:49:58 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: ConservativeofColor

Rangel should try some Bean-O.


3 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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“Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., is a long-time champion of the idea.”

Is this the “champion” that didn’t even vote for his own bill to reinstate the draft?

5 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:30 PM PDT by DB
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"They'll get out of Iraq so fast if they thought that Middle America had to make any sacrifices," Rangel said

Rangel's playing of both the class and race cards is despicable. And he's playing to a constituency that actually believes that poor minorities are the only enlisted folks in the armed forces.

6 posted on 08/12/2007 5:51:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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The only reason Rangel wants to reinstate the draft is because he knows that it will do a lot of damage to the military and the country.

I'm a military history buff so please save your breath about draftees fighting in World War II, Korea and Vietnam. I know all that. This has nothing to do with draftees. It's about the destruction of our military and the United States.

9 posted on 08/12/2007 5:55:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You know you are a great American when a Kennedy calls you a traitor.)
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"They'll get out of Iraq so fast if they thought that Middle America had to make any sacrifices"

Wrongo.

He has NO idea of what is facing the nation and the World.

Its about 1937 all over again, and things will start heating up very quickly over the next few months, in Iran.

Should there be a draft? Yes, if its needed to beat these Fascist Islamics back into the 12th Imam's well hole . where they all belong, for eternity.

According to Iran's rhetoric, that Iran will wipe Israel of the map, then lets try on the reciprocal statement:

Iran needs to be wiped off the map!

Hard words for hard times.

10 posted on 08/12/2007 5:55:56 PM PDT by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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If it came to a vote Rangel would vote against a draft so fast and so hard it would make your head spin. Its just political grandstanding. There are good reasons not to have a draft but Rangel uses none of them.


11 posted on 08/12/2007 5:56:34 PM PDT by Delacon
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#//////// PPPPP

DTG: 130300Z AUG 07

FM: OLD SARGE
TO: C. RANGEL
SU: YOUR DRAFT PROPOSAL

1. SCREW YOU.
2. NOTHING FOLLOWS.

EOM EOM EOM


12 posted on 08/12/2007 5:57:08 PM PDT by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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Het Rangel!

I’m Trying to see Your point of View!


16 posted on 08/12/2007 6:04:25 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Was the draft suggested or is this some rumor mongering the Dims are doing to stir the honey pot.
17 posted on 08/12/2007 6:07:18 PM PDT by Global2010
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All you had to do was know a politician and get deferments.”
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Bull$hit.

All you had to do was enlist before being drafted. Anyone could do it. No political connections required.


18 posted on 08/12/2007 6:08:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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Rangelberry is a racial huckster and a complete fraud in the mold of Jesse Jackass.


25 posted on 08/12/2007 6:18:42 PM PDT by Buffettfan (3rd Battalion, 6th Marines - 1971 - 1974)
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I support the idea of required military service and a draft...but the low quality of our current citizenry would make it impractical.

Plus, once you remove a requirement for military service, you’ve lost the idealogical argument forever. You can’t just bring it back.


26 posted on 08/12/2007 6:19:47 PM PDT by Swordfished
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Leftists love the draft because it was the draft — and associated cowardice of so many young leftists — that led to the massive anti-war protests of the 60’s. Once the draft ended, the protests ended too.

Want the Vietnam era back? Go for the draft.

27 posted on 08/12/2007 6:22:01 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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Why I think a draft won't work anymore.

1. Are we going to draft women? Mom and daddy won't stand for little Mary being drafted. Exodus to Canada. Riots and protests in the streets. What about "the children." Drafted males bring lawsuits about "discrimination."

2. Chip and Muffy college boys won't allow themselves to be drafted. Riots and protests in the streets. Burning flags and draft cards. Exodus to Canada. Hanoi Boi Kerry gets a new book deal for "Winter Soldiers Part Deux."

3. Will we draft homosexuals? Heck ya! Get rid of "don't ask, don't tell." Lawsuits galore!

4. Political stunts. Some will allow themselves to be drafted so they can appear on the "Nightly News" in military uniform telling everyone how they "don't believe in war." That plays hell with troop morale but it does help morons acquire their "15 minutes of fame" a lot more quickly. Maybe a "book" or "movie" deal if they're lucky.

5. Chip and Muffy college boys will be on TV every night demanding to know why the Bush twins weren't drafted.

6. Will we draft Muslims? They aren't going to want to fight against their "brothers" in the Middle East. Lawsuits galore! It's against their religion. Lots of "fraggings" in the news.

7. I don't think the draft is worth the hassle. A can of worms we should leave unopened. There are too many cowards and lawyers infesting our country these days to expect anyone to "give back" to their country for the freedoms and liberty that they enjoy.

CW3, AVN

USA, Retired

33 posted on 08/12/2007 6:43:01 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You know you are a great American when a Kennedy calls you a traitor.)
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"They'll get out of Iraq so fast if they thought that Middle America had to make any sacrifices"

Middle America IS and always HAS been making sacrifices during wartime.

38 posted on 08/12/2007 6:52:39 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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"Vietnam had a political draft," he said. "All you had to do is what Cheney did, what Bush did...."

What Clinton did...

39 posted on 08/12/2007 6:53:35 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (FRED '08! (Use caps, it bugs the haters))
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"They'll get out of Iraq so fast if they thought that Middle America had to make any sacrifices," Rangel said

We should be worried about a new draft if we believe that dumb s*** has any ability to foresee the future. I don't.

I want to see a draft because I think it's not a good idea to exhaust our best and most motivated fighters by sending them into a war zone for two, three or four consecutive tours. And because GD sniveling leftists should be made to share the burden of fighting for their country, whether they like it or not.

42 posted on 08/12/2007 7:02:34 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Just wondering aloud here, but if the surge is going so well why is one of President Bush’s generals suggesting the possibility of a draft?


43 posted on 08/12/2007 7:12:44 PM PDT by mtdew (screech)
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They start a draft and I’ll start the second coming of the underground railroad.


48 posted on 08/12/2007 7:24:44 PM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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