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Bush: The biggest taxer in world history (Cato)
Cato Institute blog ^ | 8/12/07 | David Boaz

Posted on 08/13/2007 11:06:54 AM PDT by traviskicks

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To: MrB

Milton Friedman observed that if reducing tax rates makes revenues increase, you haven’t cut rates enough.


61 posted on 08/13/2007 6:33:54 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: Christopher Lincoln

AMEN, Brother. Preach that simple truth!!!!


62 posted on 08/13/2007 7:37:30 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: caisson71

There is such a thing as a veto, but Bush didn’t seem to know this for about 5-6 years. He signed everything.


63 posted on 08/13/2007 7:38:05 PM PDT by TBP
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To: caisson71

How come we could hold the rise in domestic discretionary spending to a little more than a 2 percent increase under Klintoon (with basically the same Congress) but once Bush came in, that rate of increase almost QUADRUPLED? Congress was basically the same. What was the big difference?


64 posted on 08/13/2007 7:42:08 PM PDT by TBP
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To: traviskicks

The principle that lowering taxes increases revenues should be well established by now. The problem is government spending. I can understand the increased spending in such things as national defense and security; however, the entitlements are going to kill our economy. The liberal utopia of a “nanny state” and the redistribution of wealth is a bigger threat to America than the terrorists.


65 posted on 08/13/2007 7:45:40 PM PDT by Ferox
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To: traviskicks
I remember when smaller, less intrusive government was a GOP plank. If they remember that, perhaps I'll consider voting for their candidates.
66 posted on 08/13/2007 7:47:58 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: x

thanks for that graph!


67 posted on 08/13/2007 9:06:20 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: traviskicks
A lot of contention here to be sure, but but it’s safe to say GWB presided over what has happened in his term of office. And Cato is right that real tax revenue and real spending has increased to levels never seen before.

Deficit spending is held up as the bogeyman by whichever party wishes to use it as a talking point against the other, but it’s not near the big deal it’s made out to be. Still, it’s an incremental burden that adds to the misery of paying taxes, whatever the rate or amount that is paid.

But we ain’t seen nothing yet.

The deficit, nor current spending, is not what is going to hurt us in the end, but rather entitlements and especially Medicare and Social Security. It’s going to start getting real tight around the same time as I plan to start drawing it. A lot of people are going to have to wrap their brains around the truth that these programs are not, and have never been, an entitlement, but just another discretionary spending issue that can be changed by any Congress at any time, and by necessity it will be in one way or another. This is not a new development, but something that should have been well known for a long time.

I earn a little over the median household income, and I figure a little more than half of that goes to the government. For all of that, nothing has been done to stop or even slow the runaway train that has been barreling towards our economy for the last 50 years. It’s as if every past administration and every past Congress has been sitting on it’s hands, hoping the bomb will go off before the train comes through town, and cause it to fall into a big hole or something.

So - with the current administration and Congress, and all of the others since the baby boom who have just sat and waited for the bomb (or whatever they have been waiting for), all of America should be disappointed.

To Dubya’s credit, he’s one of the few to propose a workable solution, but he was, predictably, not forceful enough to bully Congress into bringing it about.

And it's almost too late.

68 posted on 08/13/2007 9:49:35 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: x

Interesting graph. Notice it dips every four years like clockwork. And the largest peaks are (mostly) at presidential election years where the party in office is upset - like that really really big one at 2000.

And our current trend is slightly above the post-war average, but again we are in a war.

Still there's that other thing I mentioned a couple of posts up. We have about a year to do something about it.

69 posted on 08/13/2007 10:14:18 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: rhombus

It’s the Cato Institute.


70 posted on 08/13/2007 10:17:11 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: traviskicks

“growth of spending on everything”

None of their ‘projects’ ever gets completed.


71 posted on 08/13/2007 10:18:44 PM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: RC2

“Go to a flat tax of 7% and they couldn’t spend all that money”

That should be the Republican tax plan.


72 posted on 08/13/2007 10:25:33 PM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: wideawake

“He’s the executive VP of Cato and the favored guy to take over as President and CEO”

Well on his way to more Government funding.


73 posted on 08/13/2007 10:32:10 PM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: Burr5

“increasing revenue flow by lowering tax RATES on income and capital gains. “

There-by, increasing opportunities for all to earn a good life.


74 posted on 08/13/2007 10:34:29 PM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: dcwusmc

“Congress gets the idea ... and cuts out the illegitimate stuff”

‘illegitimate stuff’ that shouldn’t be there in the first place. Non-Federal spending on the Federal budget needs to be recuperated by taking back from those who passed it, i.e. seize their estates and pensions.


75 posted on 08/13/2007 10:42:46 PM PDT by Son House ($$Proud Memeber of Vast Right Wing, Out To Lower Your Tax Rates For More Opportunities.$$)
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To: MrB

Well said.


76 posted on 08/13/2007 10:43:57 PM PDT by spyone
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To: Egon

Very well said.


77 posted on 08/13/2007 10:46:49 PM PDT by spyone
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To: Son House

You’re right on the mark.


78 posted on 08/13/2007 11:00:34 PM PDT by spyone
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To: MosesKnows

It has reached the point where it can no longer be attributed to “spin”. It is clearly deceit.

Yep.


79 posted on 08/14/2007 5:48:04 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: attiladhun2

“....because he believed Bush was turning the GOP too far to the right, not because of his commitment to conservative principles”

I know that but that summer was when i noticed a major shift in Bush’s rhetoric.


80 posted on 08/14/2007 6:49:54 AM PDT by demshateGod (Duncan Hunter for president)
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