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'Enough is Enough': While Washington Vacations, a War Rages Here at Home (Newt)
Human Events ^ | 08/14/2007 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 08/14/2007 8:26:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

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To: livius

I think he is entirely right. He deals with this ‘sanctuary city’ BS directy:

“2.Every person arrested for a felony will be checked against the federal data base, and unless there is positive proof they are American citizens or legal residents in America, they will be presumed to be here illegally and will be detained.

3.Any city, county or state that refuses to participate in checking every felony arrest will immediately lose all their federal aid.”

This would address the neglect of the local authorities and their dangerous political correctness.


21 posted on 08/14/2007 9:22:54 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: jack_napier

Is he still in the US?


22 posted on 08/14/2007 9:23:54 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Vanders9

He is a fast mover - Speedy Gonzalez.


23 posted on 08/14/2007 9:24:34 AM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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To: ovrtaxt

ovrtaxt - this not to you personally, I’m new to posting here and apologize in advance if it seems like I jumped all over you.

What’s missing here in Newt’s selective “outrage” is this:

A) “Government” cannot “protect” anyone. YOU MUST DO IT YOURSELF at the EXACT instant and moment of crisis. When SECONDS count, the police (as reps of government, etc.,) are MINUTES away (or as in the case of New Orleans, conspicuously absent). And quite frankly, if a person is not willing to take the time and effort to LEARN how to protect themselves, how can they reasonably expect someone else to risk THEIR life to protect them? A few hours of training with a firearm, the most expediant self-defense device ever created, is all it takes. My children are all expert marksmen with both handgun and rifle; I TAUGHT them that way since they were little so that they could protect themselves if the need ever arose.

B) New Jersey disarms its citizens, err, subjects with ridiculously strict gun control laws. Strict gun control laws disarm only law-abiding people, but not the criminal scumbags that did this (obviously - 3 dead kids prove it). Yet, NO ONE BRINGS THIS UP. The media darlings cry “We have to do THIS, and THAT...too easy to get guns, blah blah blah” But hey, don’t DARE bring up the fact that these people are disallowed by law to carry firearms for personal defense. In democrat-controlled NJ (as in other Dem-controlled states) it is very, very diffcult to get a concealed carry license, but not for a criminal to get a gun. These people were MURDERED by the STATE as much as by the scumbag illegal. Or at the very least, the state made it easier for them to be murdered. Think I’m too harsh? Ask those three kids.

C) A person carrying a firearm (as in the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS) has at least a fighting chance to defend him/herself; these people were slaughtered LIKE SHEEP. We were NOT born to be sheep. “Government” intends to make us that way. They violate your RIGHT, breaking the law, and nothing is said about it. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness - it means NOTHING if you can’t defend it.

D) Illegal alien argument notwithstanding - it makes no difference. Would it have mattered if the dirtbag was born and raised here and did the same things? No. Those kids would still be dead because they weren’t taught to defend themselves properly - it starts at home.

They were probably taught “Conflict Resolution” - give the guy what he wants and he’ll go away (to rape/rob/assault/execute someone else). Forget your duty, obligation, and responsibility as a CITIZEN to PREVENT this dirtbag from harming someone else. No, just give him what he wants and it’ll be all right. Kneel down? Sure...why not? Yes sir, don’t worry, I won’t bleed on you.

Pathetic...I am SO disgusted and outraged with this whole episode. And here’s one more big government type, Newt, standing up there saying government has to do more to protect us..

Self-defense is THE MOST BASIC HUMAN RIGHT. Did he mention ANYWHERE about making it easier for law-abiding citizens to exercise their RIGHT to self-defense?

Nope. Not part of the agenda.

I weep for my Country.


24 posted on 08/14/2007 9:31:14 AM PDT by NFHale (NFHale)
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To: ovrtaxt
Levees collapse in New Orleans as the local, state and federal bureaucracies fail and nothing is done to change the system.

Thanks for perpetuating the myth Newt. We didn't seem to have any problem in Florida. At least not on the level of NO.

25 posted on 08/14/2007 9:31:53 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: ovrtaxt
Again...notice that as had Fred Thompson in his Sanctuary City essay yesterday

...he differentiates between illegals arrested for violent felonies and the vast majority of illegals who...[paraphrased] "like the rest of us, are just peacefully struggling to get by".

Good job, Newt!

26 posted on 08/14/2007 9:36:53 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: ovrtaxt

The guy’s whereabouts are currently unknown. He left town. Hard to say if he left the country; if he could manage to, it would be a good bet.


27 posted on 08/14/2007 9:57:08 AM PDT by jack_napier
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To: jack_napier
"The guy’s whereabouts are currently unknown. "

Are you serious? They don't know where the guy is?

Carolyn

28 posted on 08/14/2007 10:14:06 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: NFHale

Those are excellent points. BANG!


29 posted on 08/14/2007 10:26:03 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: jack_napier

I guess skipping bail in’t a big deal for an illegal. What are they going to do, go by his job and get him? right.


30 posted on 08/14/2007 10:27:42 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Deo et Patria

I rather have Newt as President-OTUS than George Bush right now !!!


31 posted on 08/14/2007 10:28:07 AM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: ovrtaxt
Newt is a screaming lunatic on this.

This is just red meat demagoguery for the Know Nothings. He knows full well this is a State problem NOT a Federal problem. This is a failure by the State of NJ to act in a sane manner. Amazing how the Conservative movement, who use to be all about Federalism, NOW want to simply nationalize every level of US Govt.

Heck Newt, let just abolish the states so all you politically connect elitist like you and your good buddy Hillary, can run everything for us.

Newt just knows which emotional hot buttons to push to get the Know Nothings all fired up to put the money into his pocket. This is pure demagoguery and nothing else

32 posted on 08/14/2007 10:44:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Todays (military's) task is three dimensional chess in the dark". General Rick Lynch in Baghdad)
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To: MNJohnnie

Controlling the borders is the Federal government’s Constitutional responsibility Johnnie. Go read it.


33 posted on 08/14/2007 10:46:54 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: LM_Guy
Then you are an idiot.

Policy made in the heat of passion over a tragedy is always a disaster.

It is as stupid to try to legislate in the heat of the moment response to this failure by the State of New Jersey to keep dangerous criminals locked up, as it is for the Lunatic Left to demand we legislate in the heat of the moment response to the collapse of the I35W Bridge.

Bad things happen. NO amount of Govt will stop that. The solution here is NOT to dream up MORE bureaucracy, the solution here is to figure out WHERE the existing bureaucracy failed and fix it. That is a state of New Jersey problem in this case.

34 posted on 08/14/2007 10:47:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ("Todays (military's) task is three dimensional chess in the dark". General Rick Lynch in Baghdad)
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To: MNJohnnie

MNJ, I have to agree this is a State & Local failure, but the Federals need to feel the heat also.


35 posted on 08/14/2007 11:53:42 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: ovrtaxt
He was indicted last month for raping a five-year-old girl repeatedly over a four-year period and threatening to kill her family.

Is that a typo? Since she was one??? Threats or not, I can't understand why the parents didn't go the police.

And three murders (+ 1 who lived) on top of that?

This beast needs to be put down. I'm normally against the death penalty, but I'm not even talking about a death penalty. He just needs to be put down like the wild rabid animal that he is.

36 posted on 08/14/2007 1:02:29 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The Morlocks are above-ground now, but nobody seems to care.)
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To: LM_Guy

“I rather have Newt as President-OTUS than George Bush right now !!!”

Well, that’s more an unfortunate testament to your state of mind right now than anything else.


37 posted on 08/14/2007 1:07:47 PM PDT by Deo et Patria (God bless you, President Bush. And God bless America.)
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To: NFHale

Well put!


38 posted on 08/14/2007 1:13:12 PM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: MNJohnnie

The only idiot’s are the fools who stay on the George Bush band wagaon.

This country is being swamped by bad things (mostly from outside our borders) why don’t you come down in live in Houston (I mean little Houstijuna Mexico) for a while. It is not safe to go to the store anymore and even if you make it there safely, harldy anyone is speaking English anymore.

Thanks you GWB and the rest of your Democratic/RINO Open Borders buds !!


39 posted on 08/14/2007 1:40:21 PM PDT by LM_Guy
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To: ovrtaxt

Anything posted from Johnnie has all the credibility of an Alec Baldwin rant.


40 posted on 08/14/2007 1:45:28 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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