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California cities fill top 10 foreclosure list
http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/14/real_estate/California_cities_lead_foreclosures/index.htm?postversio ^ | 8-14-07 | Les Christie

Posted on 08/14/2007 8:47:33 AM PDT by Hydroshock

Edited on 08/28/2007 8:53:29 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The binge that many housing markets went on in the early- to mid-2000s is over, and some of the hottest markets like California are now experiencing the worst hangovers.

But other areas, especially many that recorded slower home price growth earlier this decade, have seen little increase in foreclosure rates, according to the latest data released Tuesday from RealtyTrac, the online marketer of foreclosure properties.

"While foreclosure activity has skyrocketed over the past year in many cities, particularly in California, Ohio and the Northeast," James Saccaccio, RealtyTrac's chief executive, said in a statement, "foreclosure activity seems to be subsiding in parts of Texas, South Carolina and other states."

"Still," he said, "the overall trend is toward escalating foreclosure rates, with 82 of the top 100 metro areas reporting year-over-year increases in the number of homes affected by foreclosure."

Stockton, California now leads the nation in foreclosures. Of RealtyTrac's top 10 metro areas for foreclosures, four are in Central California.


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To: Hydroshock

Oh boy....

August 14 2007: 2:52 PM EDT

Dow tumbles 200 as selloff accelerates
Major gauges slump as investors worry about Wal-Mart, bank stocks, mortgage market and credit crunch.


21 posted on 08/14/2007 12:32:49 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Finny

Riverside is a separate city in Riverside County while San Bernardino is a separate city in San Bernardino County but a lot of times you will see Riverside/San Bernardino referred to as the Inland Empire.


22 posted on 08/14/2007 12:38:44 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( Inhofe for Senate 08 -- Broken Glass Republican -- vote out the RATs in 2008)
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To: Finny

At what point would you say those factors have already been priced in? When valuations are double what they were 5 years ago? 300%? 500%? 1000%? Have the fundamentals really gotten THAT much better in such a short period of time?

One could easily argue that in many areas of Southern California, illegal immigration and crime are substantially worse than a decade or two ago. Crowding and traffic have gotten obscene. The state has gone broke and is now writing long term bonds for routine infrastructure maintenance. Native-born Americans are leaving in droves. “Progressive” zoning regulations are plopping blighted low-income housing in the middle of affluent suburbs. These trends are only getting worse with time, and the liberals in charge will fight to the death to keep it that way.

There is a very real possibility that prices will fall dramatically in the near future. CA real estate was always higher than most of the nation for the reasons you listed, and will probably remain that way as long as the pros outweigh the cons. But there is scant evidence that the most recent runup in prices is sustainable once the easy money goes away.


23 posted on 08/14/2007 1:00:22 PM PDT by socal_moderate
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To: Finny

riverside be in riverside county.

si.


24 posted on 08/14/2007 1:02:50 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs + 2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: Finny

keep buying coastal.... always buy coastal.... next 20 years another several million are moving to California... most to the coast.


25 posted on 08/14/2007 1:05:12 PM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: socal_moderate

“There is a very real possibility that prices will fall dramatically in the near future”

What tea bag did you pull these leaves out of? Lipton?


26 posted on 08/14/2007 1:06:40 PM PDT by Porterville (I'm an American. If you hate Americans, I hope our enemies destroy you. I will pray for my soul.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Ah. That makes sense, certainly the Inland Empire is what I’d call it. But San Bernardino is SO different from Riverside! Oh well.


27 posted on 08/14/2007 1:15:35 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Land is the only thing that’s truly a finite resource, and the only resource that is REQUIRED for life.

Virtual land is not limited. 2,000 people can live in luxury on a one acre plot by building a sky scrapper on it. Land prices can only go so high before it's cheaper to build up. Falling birth rates and new building technologies mean there will be an oversupply of real estate in the future.

28 posted on 08/14/2007 1:26:03 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses

BUMP!


29 posted on 08/14/2007 1:33:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: socal_moderate
There is a very real possibility that prices will fall dramatically in the near future. CA real estate was always higher than most of the nation for the reasons you listed, and will probably remain that way as long as the pros outweigh the cons. But there is scant evidence that the most recent runup in prices is sustainable once the easy money goes away.

You may be right, though of course I hope you're not! ;^) I wouldn't be surprised to see prices drop, but I would be surprised to see them drop dramatically. Even in the Valley, where things are much different than in So Cal. The wildcard is how resourceful people can be in overcoming challenges. I am SO GRATEFUL that we had the (uncharacteristic!) smarts to turn down a loan guy that was trying his best to talk us into an ARM. Instead we got in on a 30-year fixed at 6 percent with no prepayment penalty. An ARM would have made sense if we'd planned on selling our house in five years, but we plan on staying put for as long as God will have us!

Had we wanted to sell our place after a few years, we'd not have made much if any profit, as the property (barring improvements we've made to it) would sell today for about as much as we paid for it three years ago. Flippers have been eating the big green wienie, and I have to say that's a bit gratifying, as we saw many homes that were ridiculously overpriced by flippers hoping to make big quick profits. They pushed the market as far as it would go, and the market finaly said: Go screw yourselves, flippers!

I'm by nature a pollyanna, and am weird enough to absolutely LOVE Southern California (I was not born and raised here; I come from a small town, rural and scenic coastal region). I never thought I'd EVER be a believer in So Cal, but I am. I love the dynamism here, the entrepreneurial spirit, the innovation in capitalism, the underlying resourcefulness and imagination of the people here. Yes, traffic sucks and illegal immigrants are a drain. Yet my perspective is from the Front Lines, and I see the ways many people manouevre around such challenges. The Northridge Earthquake taught me how easy it is to underestimate the people here. So I (eternal optimist) have hopes that all the things you list will become resolved for the better in ways we can't imagine from our present vantage point.

30 posted on 08/14/2007 1:33:24 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Reeses
Falling birth rates and new building technologies mean there will be an oversupply of real estate in the future.

Now, that's an interesting possibility.

31 posted on 08/14/2007 1:35:12 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: socal_moderate
prices will fall dramatically in the near future

Would 'near future' mean sometime before the sun becomes a red giant?

32 posted on 08/14/2007 1:39:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Reeses
I think that the fascinating bit you write about building up, and new technologies, creating a surplus of real estate, may be right in that there would be a surplus of specific kinds of real estate in the future. There will never be a surplus of coastal land, nor will there ever be a surplus of real estate in towns that simultaneously enjoy near-perfect weather and hugely robust and diverse economies.
33 posted on 08/14/2007 1:40:21 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Smogger
every new home built in California is of the "luxury" variety (i.e. 500K and up).

Don't know your location in the state but in most areas luxury homes start at $1M with the median at about $2.5M. In the poorest part of the state, the San Joaquin Valley, some new, 3 bedroom and most new, 2 story, 5 bedroom homes are now at about $500K. These are tract homes by mega builders like KB and Glennwood, not custom jobs on an acre.

34 posted on 08/14/2007 3:56:20 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

I mean 3000+ square feet starting at 500K. McMansions I believe they are called. Almost all new tract homes in the state start at 500K and go up to 1 million, often in the same tract. My point being is that there are really no entry level homes being built anywhere in California.


35 posted on 08/15/2007 8:26:57 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Smogger
My point being is that there are really no entry level homes being built anywhere in California.

A McMansion is an entry level home for multiple Mexican families. Many smaller communities in the Central Valley have banned the practice of multiple family occupancy in a single residence to preserver their community's tax base. That ban has been imposed on developers, not buyers.

36 posted on 08/15/2007 1:41:36 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: flashbunny

There’s no bubble. Inflation is being held in check by the troubled housing market but other signs are: strong metal prices (many mines being opened after years of being capped) and oil prices at an all-time high. Real estate is the third item that betrays an inflationary cycle... mostly brought on by the binge spending in Washington. The time to pay the piper must come someday.


37 posted on 08/16/2007 7:43:51 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
S&P Says Housing Prices Fell in 2Q by Steepest Rate Since Its Index Was Started in 1987
38 posted on 08/28/2007 8:43:24 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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