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Clinton tops Giuliani in Quinnipiac Poll
Connecticut Post ^ | 08/15/2007 10:37:09 PM EDT | PETER URBAN

Posted on 08/16/2007 4:11:11 AM PDT by Aristotelian

WASHINGTON — In the 2008 presidential sweepstakes, Democratic frontrunner Hillary Rodham Clinton has edged ahead of Republican frontrunner Rudy Giuliani in the most recent Quinnipiac Poll match-up.

"The movement is glacial, but for Sen. Hillary Clinton, it's in the right direction," said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

Clinton held a 46-43 percent advantage over the former New York City mayor among likely voters in the national poll of 1,545 voters that was conducted between Aug. 7 and 13. The poll also found that Clinton is well ahead of her Democratic rivals for the party's nomination.

The New York senator was favored by 36 percent of Democrats polled.

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama was favored by 21 percent. And, non-candidate Al Gore was backed by 15 percent.

"At the moment, it really is a one-person race," Carroll said.

However, he cautioned that Clinton could stumble because her unfavorable ratings are the highest of any top presidential contender at 43 percent.

"The 'Hillary hostility' factor is constant and feeds doubts about whether she can win in November 2008," Carroll said. "That polling perennial — her unfavorability factor — remains high."

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Among Republicans polled, Giuliani was favored by 28 percent followed by former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who was favored by 15 percent.

The survey of 1,545 voters has a margin of error of 2.5 percent, including 611 Republicans with a margin of error of 4.0 percent, and 717 Democrats with a margin of error of 3.7 percent.

(Excerpt) Read more at connpost.com ...


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1 posted on 08/16/2007 4:11:14 AM PDT by Aristotelian
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To: Aristotelian

poll results courtesy of the clinton machine....


2 posted on 08/16/2007 4:17:40 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Aristotelian
You have to go past the headline - which few people do - to notice Hillary's HIGH UNFAVORABILITY ratings. Hers is in the 40s and no one with unfavorables THAT high has ever been elected President. Hillary's personality is not all that likeable and its interesting only 36% of Democrats favor her. That shows how many of them doubt she can win next November.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 08/16/2007 4:20:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Hers is in the 40s and no one with unfavorables THAT high has ever been elected President.

I have a sinking feeling that no matter who the GOP nominee is, a lot of "conservatives" who stayed home in 2006 will do the same in 2008 and Mrs. Bill Clinton will be the first "highly unfavorable" candidate to be elected President.

Hillary's personality is not all that likeable and its interesting only 36% of Democrats favor her.

That doesn't matter. Mrs. Bill Clinton could be liked by 0% of Democrats but will still get 110% of the Democrat vote.

4 posted on 08/16/2007 4:38:46 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: The Wizard
The poll also found that Clinton is well ahead of her Democratic rivals for the party's nomination.

Was Al Gore included in this poll? Notice how Fred, a popular yet undeclared Republican is included in every Republican poll. Al Gore would surely take from Hillary if he was included in the polls like Fred is. It makes me wonder what the MSM and their minions are up to.

Which candidate would get traction? Which candidate would separate from the pack if Fred was not included (even Gingrich is included in some polls taking up to 7% away from serious candidates).

I also wonder if Fred would remain as popular if one of the other candidates was getting 35% in every Republican poll or maybe a second tier guy jumping from 2% to 8% because Fred isn't in the poll. I also wonder if Fred would back off running if he started seeing his name dropped from Republican polls or would it motivate him to get in and fight.

5 posted on 08/16/2007 4:45:37 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: normy

I saw this discussed on c-span. The pollster said these numbers are really soft. Only 10% of dems have made a firm decision.


6 posted on 08/16/2007 4:49:54 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: ClaireSolt

Interesting. There is a reason Fred is included in our polls and Gore is not included in theirs. Think about it. If Al was getting as much attention as Fred gets he might change his mind about running or at least explore his options and do exactly what Fred is doing.


7 posted on 08/16/2007 4:53:36 AM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: Aristotelian

It’s always going to be about the American Idol demographic who depend on John Stewart for news. That 10-12% who will remain undecided until they are scratching their nappy heads while staring at a rigged (Rove’s fault) electronic ballot on 4NOV2008. The other 90% have already made up their minds.


8 posted on 08/16/2007 5:17:10 AM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: ClaireSolt
Only 10% of dems have made a firm decision.

We can't make the mistake of misunderestimating Mrs. Bill Clinton. She can, and probably will, win the election if we do not rally around the eventual GOP nominee. As it has been shown in the past, the Democrat party can literally pee on its constituents but they will reliably show up at the polls year after year, no matter who their candidate is.

Make no mistake, Mrs. Bill Clinton will be the Democrat party nominee in 2008. There is nothing standing between her and the nomination now. Barack Hussein Obama was a nice distraction, until he opened his mouth. Now that he is out of the way, it will be a smooth ride into the convention for Mrs. Bill Clinton.

We are so worried about this that we've seriously considered registering as Democrats so that we can vote for Barack Hussein Obama in the primary... if enough people do that, then it is possible that Mrs. Bill Clinton will be politically impotent and no longer a threat to the rest of the USA.

9 posted on 08/16/2007 5:22:39 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: The Wizard
It is a poll of voters, not "likely voters," which is usually good for a percent or two off the liberal candidate. However, I don't like these trends. Unlike many here, I'm NOT anti-Rudy. So far, neither Fred nor Mitt has shown they can defeat Hillary---I know, Fred isn't "announced." Still, expecting an announcement to make up some 20% points is a tough sell.

Regardless of who the nominee is, this is going to be very difficult.

10 posted on 08/16/2007 5:34:33 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: pnh102
Good points. Anyone who thinks Democrats in a GENERAL election will abandon She-Who-Must-Not-be-Named is fooling himself. She will, as another poster said, get 110% of available Dem votes. There will be fraud, as well as exceptional Dem turnout.

Anything less than a complete united effort on our part will have Bill Richardson as Sec. of State, Carville as the Press Secretary, Begala as Chief of Staff, and Murtha as Secretary of Defense.

Even now, some of you think I'm exaggerating.

11 posted on 08/16/2007 5:37:41 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: pnh102

“I have a sinking feeling that no matter who the GOP nominee is, a lot of “conservatives” who stayed home in 2006...”

For the love of God, how many times does that stupid notion have to be debunked for it to sink in that?

For the last time for those in the cheap seats:

CONSERVATIVES DID NOT “STAY HOME” IN 2006! CONSERVATIVE BALLOT MEASURES PASSED ALL OVER THE NATION! DEMS WON BY RUNNING TO THE RIGHT OF THE RINOS!!


12 posted on 08/16/2007 6:09:00 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: pnh102
In Texas you don’t register to be R or D, your vote in one of the primaries registers you and then you cannot vote in the other.

As much as I would like to vote for Obama in the dem primary, I prefer to hang on to my primary vote so I can cast it for the Republican of my choice.

13 posted on 08/16/2007 6:20:16 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Aristotelian
Quote:
...including 611 Republicans


1545 people polled, with 611 being Republican?
OK
14 posted on 08/16/2007 6:21:17 AM PDT by Verbosus
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To: pnh102
I have a sinking feeling that no matter who the GOP nominee is, a lot of "conservatives" who stayed home in 2006 will do the same in 2008 . . .

I didn't stay home in 2006. I voted as I always do, but for a change, I voted for some Democrats . . . or, rather, I voted against some of our local GOP incumbents who demonstrated continuous contempt for the values and the concerns of the voters who had elected them the last time around. If Rudy Giuliani is the Republican nominee in 2008, I will make it a point to cast a vote . . . against him.

15 posted on 08/16/2007 6:21:33 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: L98Fiero
For the love of God, how many times does that stupid notion have to be debunked for it to sink in that?

You people go ahead and keep on thinking that. When you go from 64% voter turnout in 2004 to around 40% in 2006 you cannot logically conclude that "no one stayed home." You might also want to note that the Democrat party was able to increase its turnout in 2006.

Now, you can continue believing in your little fantasy that no conservatives stayed home in 2006 going into the 2008 election, and we'll have all sorts of fun with President Rodham along with a Socialist Congress to do her bidding.

16 posted on 08/16/2007 6:40:31 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: Aristotelian

This is good news, to the extent that it gets us past the idiotic idea that Giuliani can somehow beat Hillary. He can’t, and we need to find a conservative nominee who can.


17 posted on 08/16/2007 6:43:41 AM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: madprof98
I didn't stay home in 2006. I voted as I always do, but for a change, I voted for some Democrats ...

I've always preferred to vote against the RINO candidates in the primary but not the general election. Even if a RINO is elected, it does help to boost the conservative voice in government by helping to achieve majorities in either the Senate, House or governments at the state and local level. Conservatives have 0 voice in a Democrat-party controlled government, even if those conservatives are Democrats. We only have to look at the long "dead" bad ideas that the liberals have managed to resurrect:

Now while the RINOS did nothing to advance conservative causes, at the very least, these bad ideas remained dead. Now they have new life, and a very real chance of becoming reality, because of the new Democrat majority. If Mrs. Bill Clinton is not stopped, then we are screwed.

18 posted on 08/16/2007 6:48:47 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: Aristotelian
Hillary! is going to be the 'Rat nominee and it makes no difference whether or not 'Rat voters "like" her, or if she has high unfavorability ratings, now. Come crunch time and the 'Rat.e voter has to pull the lever for someone, it will almost certainly be for the 'Rat candidate. That's what they do. It matters not who the candidate is or how much they are "liked", the only thing important to a 'Rat is that they vote for the 'Rat party.

That said, I think Hillary! has the inside track on the election and unless the opposition is united in a way they never have been before, I'd say Hillary! will be moving back into 1600 come January 2009. That gives me nightmares to no end, but based on what I've seen in the campaign so far, and especially what I've seen on FR and other sites, Republicans/conservatives are more interested in destroying each other than they are in beating Hillary!, who is the real enemy.

19 posted on 08/16/2007 6:56:39 AM PDT by chimera
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To: pnh102

I supplied another fact, and you replied with diffuse worry. That’s not healthy.


20 posted on 08/16/2007 7:08:33 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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