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1 posted on 08/16/2007 10:15:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Nonsense! Muhammad Ali was the first to break the speed of light. He said he was so fast that he would flip off the light switch in his hotel room and be in bed before it got dark!;)


159 posted on 08/16/2007 11:04:31 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: LibWhacker
They scoffed too when Orville Wright invented his brother Wilbur!
160 posted on 08/16/2007 11:04:42 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Can I please freep just a little while longer Dear?)
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To: LibWhacker

How do you measure “instantaneous”?


162 posted on 08/16/2007 11:05:44 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: LibWhacker
'We have broken speed of light'

Perhaps we can apply some of that technique to the interstate system. :-)

168 posted on 08/16/2007 11:06:59 AM PDT by meyer (It's the entitlements, stupid!)
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“Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to a wide variety of bizarre consequences. For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving. “

Why is light speed necessarily the benchmark for this?


169 posted on 08/16/2007 11:07:23 AM PDT by DemEater
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To: LibWhacker

???? How is this different that items of mass acting in a wave/Heisenberg Uncertenty principle?

Seems like the same mechanism, ie. everything exists everywhere at varying probabilities...until directly measured.


171 posted on 08/16/2007 11:07:44 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to a wide variety of bizarre consequences.

For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving.

And idiot Senators would have an excuse for "voting for something before they voted against it"...

174 posted on 08/16/2007 11:08:12 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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...astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving

Actually, Kurt Godel developed a solution to the Einstein equations which describe "closed timelike lines" in which it is possible to travel "back" in time without having to travel faster than the speed of light. He presented the solution in a paper to Einstein on the occasion of Einstein's 70th birthday (14 March, 1949). The paper extended relativity theory in [at that time] disturbing ways. In particular it suggests that Time is more like a spatial dimension (since you apparently can travel "through" it just like the familiar spatial dimensions) and furthermore that our perception of Time is subjective and that there is no notion of absolute time.

176 posted on 08/16/2007 11:08:37 AM PDT by jgorris
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I strongly suspect a measurement error.


177 posted on 08/16/2007 11:08:59 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Excessive tolerance will be the death of Western civilization.)
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gives “in before the zot” a whole ‘nuther meaning


185 posted on 08/16/2007 11:14:48 AM PDT by gusopol3
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The pair say they have conducted an experiment in which microwave photons - energetic packets of light - travelled "instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3ft apart.

Interesting, if true, but I remember the "cold fusion" excitement, in the 1980s, which turned out to be just experimental error.

In this case the microwaves should have taken about 3 billionths of a second (.000000003 seconds) to travel this far. The difference between .000000003 seconds, and 0 seconds, is very small, and requires very good experimental methodology to measure correctly.

194 posted on 08/16/2007 11:20:58 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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196 posted on 08/16/2007 11:22:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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bump


198 posted on 08/16/2007 11:23:18 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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“Being able to travel faster than the speed of light would lead to a wide variety of bizarre consequences.

For instance, an astronaut moving faster than it would theoretically arrive at a destination before leaving.”

Once again demonstrating that reporters have no basic understanding of science or logic.

They wouldn’t arrive at the destination before leaving. They’d arrive at thier destination before the IMAGE of them leaving did.


201 posted on 08/16/2007 11:26:09 AM PDT by Grumpy_Mel (Humans are resources - Soilent Green is People!)
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Will Spacecraft ever Go Faster than the speed of Light?
Various - See Text | 16 FEB 2003 | Various
Posted on 02/16/2003 5:16:44 PM EST by vannrox
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Is Faster Than Light Travel or Communication Possible?
Original by Philip Gibbs 1997
Updated 1998 by PEG [interesting dating, no?]
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/FTL.html

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Forget Rocket Ships. TELEPORT!
A physicist writes as if the technology for moving people is already here
By Sarah Goforth
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/fyi/article/0,20967,1021318,00.html


203 posted on 08/16/2007 11:27:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Light goes too fast, it goes too slow, I wish it would just make up it's mind.
www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/WALLSAN.TXT
by Wall Thornhill
Sansbury is a quiet spoken physicist from Connecticut. He is associated with the Classical Physics Institute, or CP Institute, of New York which publishes the Journal of Classical Physics. Sansbury's was a thousand dollar experiment using 10 nanosecond long pulses of laser light, one pulse every 400 nsec. At some distance from the laser was a photodiode detector. But in the light path, directly in front of the detector was a high speed electronic shutter (known as a Pockel cell) which could be switched to allow the laser light through to the detector, or stop it.
Breaking the Light Barrier
In the most striking of the new experiments a pulse of light that enters a transparent chamber filled with specially prepared cesium gas is pushed to speeds of 300 times the normal speed of light. That is so fast that, under these peculiar circumstances, the main part of the pulse exits the far side of the chamber even before it enters at the near side. Dr. Chiao, whose own research laid some of the groundwork for the experiment, added that "there's been a lot of controversy" over whether the finding means that actual information--like the news of an impending accident--could be sent faster than c, the velocity of light. But he said that he and most other physicists agreed that it could not.
Fast Break
Researchers say it is the most convincing demonstration yet that the speed of light—supposedly an ironclad rule of nature—can be pushed beyond known boundaries, at least under certain laboratory circumstances. "This effect cannot be used to send information back in time," said Lijun Wang, a researcher with the private NEC Institute. "However, our experiment does show that the generally held misconception that 'nothing can travel faster than the speed of light' is wrong." The achievement has no practical application right now, but experiments like this have generated considerable excitement in the small international community of theoretical and optical physicists. Wang said the effect is possible only because light has no mass; the same thing cannot be done with physical objects. Aephraim Steinberg, a physicist at the University of Toronto, said the light particles coming out of the cesium chamber may not have been the same ones that entered, so he questions whether the speed of light was broken.
An Engineering Approach to Solar and Galactic Formation
by Neil B. Christianson
"In the most striking of the new experiments a pulse of light that enters a transparent chamber filled with specially prepared cesium gas is pushed to speeds of 300 times the normal speed of light. That is so fast that, under these peculiar circumstances, the main part of the pulse exits the far side of the chamber even before it enters at the near side."
Meta Research: Speed Limit of Gravity
by Tom Van Flandern


Repeal the Speed LimiT
by Tom Van Flandern


Physicists Slow Speed of Light
Physicists Slow Speed of Light

by William J. Cromie


Slowing Light to 38 MPH !!

What Advantage Is Slowing Light To 38 Mph Going To Have?

Scientists Hold Light Particles Captiveby Maggie Fox
Health and Science Correspondent
The team at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts report in the Jan. 29 issue of Physical Review Letters, the atoms change their magnetic spin just slightly -- a change that allows them to store information from the photons. Hitting the cloud of hot rubidium gas with another laser pulse releases the first pulse, they said. Usually, when a photon hits an atom -- even an atom in a highly reflective mirror -- it gets absorbed and heats up the atom, putting it into what physicists call a higher energy state.
Light stopped in its tracks
by Dr David Whitehouse
BBC News Online science editor
To stop light altogether, the scientists have utilised a similar but far more powerful effect. The researchers cooled a gas of magnetically trapped sodium atoms to within a few millionths of a degree of absolute zero (-273 deg C). This would normally be opaque to light. But by illuminating it with a laser called a coupling beam, it can be made transparent, thereby allowing another laser pulse to pass through it. It is a process known as electromagnetically induced transparency. And, astonishingly, if the coupling laser is turned off while the probe pulse is inside the gas cloud, the probe pulse stops dead in its tracks. If the coupling beam is then turned back on, the probe pulse emerges intact, just as if it had been waiting to resume its journey.

204 posted on 08/16/2007 11:28:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Faster Than Light: Superluminal Loopholes in Physics Faster Than Light:
Superluminal Loopholes
in Physics

by Nick Herbert


205 posted on 08/16/2007 11:28:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; FairOpinion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...
hey, someone mentioned M theory, and bound to be of interest:

207 posted on 08/16/2007 11:31:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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This is either the result of some dramatic fracture in the space/time continuum...OR...

the inevitable appearance of two alternate but parallel universes resulting from too many tequila shooters.

208 posted on 08/16/2007 11:31:41 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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211 posted on 08/16/2007 11:35:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Tuesday, August 14, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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