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To: LibWhacker
For the time being, this is the only violation of special relativity that I know of.

That, and the fact that gravity propagates at a speed that must be at least 2 * 1010 c, and may be infinite. If gravity moved at the comparatively sluggish speed of light then the Earth would spiral into the Sun.

It turns out that Einstein's theory of Special Relativity has subtle flaws* whereas (I am given to understand) Lorentz's much less famous but broadly equivalent construct for relativity works with an infinite speed of gravity.

* But don't ask me what they are! I'm leaving the thread with my fingers in my ears, lalalalala I can't hear you!

45 posted on 08/16/2007 10:27:40 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Aye. Gravity is faster than the speed of Light in a vac.


72 posted on 08/16/2007 10:33:08 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: agere_contra

I thought the speed of gravity was C plus or minus 1 percent?


76 posted on 08/16/2007 10:33:56 AM PDT by camerakid400
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To: agere_contra
That, and the fact that gravity propagates at a speed that must be at least 2 * 1010 c, and may be infinite.

What is your basis for making this claim?

Very interesting if true and we do know that nobody (AFAIK) has ever detected a gravity wave. And they have been trying for a long time.

107 posted on 08/16/2007 10:42:31 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: agere_contra
That, and the fact that gravity propagates at a speed that must be at least 2 * 1010 c, and may be infinite. If gravity moved at the comparatively sluggish speed of light then the Earth would spiral into the Sun.

What is your basis for this claim? I hope you aren't one of those folks who confuses phase velocity with group velocity or does not know how to calculate a spherical wavefront.

283 posted on 08/16/2007 4:05:47 PM PDT by burzum (None shall see me, though my battlecry may give me away -Minsc)
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To: agere_contra
When I tried to discuss the speed of gravity with my physics prof in college, he threatened to flunk me if I ever brought it up again. (HA! Final grades have been in for a long time... )

That's what you get if you mess with their gods...

333 posted on 08/17/2007 2:36:51 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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