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Bitter Martinez
Washington Times ^ | August 17, 2007

Posted on 08/17/2007 6:51:05 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

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To: taxcontrol

Martinez has to be removed. Considering the damage he does to the GOP, it makes one wonder if he is actually working for the Democrats.


41 posted on 08/17/2007 9:54:19 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 3AngelaD
In a sign of serious Republican disarray, Sen. Mel Martinez...

Mel Martinez, The ARCHITECT of Republican Disarray

Well, that's the title I'll give to Martinez if he continues to
his destruction of The Republican Party after Karl "The Architect"
Rove has actually left the D.C. scenery.
42 posted on 08/17/2007 9:56:11 AM PDT by VOA
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To: 3AngelaD

Mel is angry, frustrated and embarrassed because he has been exposed. People now realize his dream is to stand at our southern border with a whistle and check board, waving illegals in by the thousands. Mel was among W’s worst mistakes. He should have picked Mike Steele to lead the party.


43 posted on 08/17/2007 9:56:41 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Liberals are "American aliens." They were born IN America but they are not OF America.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Michael Steele would have been so much better on so many levels. For starters, he has a grasp of the rule of law, and of capitalism. The people of Maryland were nuts not to elect him.


44 posted on 08/17/2007 9:59:20 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD; TommyDale
Mel Martinez' leadership at the GOP:

Posted yesterday by TommyDale

45 posted on 08/17/2007 10:08:26 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: 3AngelaD

Senior Martinez, El Stupido.


46 posted on 08/17/2007 10:11:06 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Ditto.


47 posted on 08/17/2007 10:13:05 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: 3AngelaD

Mel Martinez passes the duck test for idiot Repubs.
But if he really is a closet Dem, he is brilliant.
First inflitrate and then subvert.
Nicely done. Repub Party takeover almost complete.


48 posted on 08/17/2007 1:19:44 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Or Mel Martinez is a secret weapon of the Dems to destroy the Repub Party?

Or at least a Pod Person?

Or have mind control techniques evolved so far?

Or does Hillery have his FBI file?

All these are whackadooble ideas. The problem is, is that though whackadooble, they could all qualify as logical explainations.


49 posted on 08/17/2007 1:22:56 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: 3AngelaD
That is why Bush put him in there.

What are his Martinez's chances of re-election?

50 posted on 08/17/2007 1:37:57 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: TommyDale

Hispanic is not a racial term.


51 posted on 08/17/2007 2:04:48 PM PDT by End Times Crusader (Ron Paul : No Constitutionalist No conservative No Republican - Kick him out of the GOP)
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To: End Times Crusader

Tell that to Martinez.


52 posted on 08/17/2007 2:12:40 PM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Calvin Locke

His chances for re-election are excellent.

He is of cuban decent, he is VERY well funded, he has links to lawyers and developers. A VERY strong candidate. His open primary race was hardly an inconvenience.

The only way to unseat Martinez is to have a celebrity status primary oponent. (ie a well known Gulf War I General from Tampa)


53 posted on 08/17/2007 2:25:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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54 posted on 08/17/2007 2:38:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: taxcontrol; Clintonfatigued; All
>> So, how do we begin the effort to remove Martinez? <<

We find a viable primary candidate to file against him in 2009. He's from Florida, they have a huge state, tons of prominent elected officials, and lean mostly Republican in statewide races. Shouldn't be too hard.

Of course we could have prevented all this in 2004 if all the self-described "true conservatives" here had opposed him in the primary BEFORE he was an incumbent. It's much easier to defeat a Republican in an open race than oust an incumbent. We had a chance to do that, but a bunch of "true conservatives" here proclaimed Martinez was a wonderful pro-life hero who would "deliver" Florida to Bush, and Bill McCollum (the man who laid his career on the line to impeach Clinton and is now Florida Attorney General), was an "unelectable RINO loser"

56 posted on 08/17/2007 3:06:20 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!)
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>> Only reason I was forced to vote for his sorry ass is he was running against Betty Castor a shill of Sami Arien. <<

Actually the reason you were forced to vote for him is because a bunch of your Florida conservatives stabbed Bill McCollum in the back and shoved Martinez down our throats in the primary.

It's not like Martinez was the ONLY Republican who filed for Senate, therefore REQUIRING us to run him against Castro.

How quickly we forget. Maybe we should go back to those threads and see how many staunch conservatives here personally helped get Martinez nominated. Personally I think the whole primary election has been ignored because so many freepers who hailed this guy as the "true conservative" in the primary would like us to forget -- now that their crediblity has been shot to pierces (And interesting enough, the same freepers who took Martinez at his word and now whine about him "betraying" them are now taking Fred Thompson's word on immigration and telling us to shut up if we "question" his record on the issue)

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

Ah well. Don't blame me. I supported Johnnie Bird in the primary.

57 posted on 08/17/2007 3:14:27 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!)
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To: 3AngelaD
If the RNC has any soul in it that cares about the people it claims to represent, it will BANISH Martinez from any position of influence and find someone who will listen to the grass roots...or face a repeat of 2006. Someone needs to shove a tube in the RNC's ears so that the message will go directly to their brains: WE DID NOT FAIL TO VOTE, WE CHOSE TO FIRE SOME OF YOU PEA-BRAINS.

WE WILL DO IT AGAIN IF WE HAVE TO!

Don't know what it is to be fired? Go talk to Donald Trump! THE Republicans In Name Only WERE F.I.R.E.D.!!!!!!!! - which is what you goofballs should do for what Mel Martinez is doing. IF HE LOVES THE ILLEGALS SO MUCH, MAKE HIM GO TO THEIR COUNTRY AND RUN FOR OFFICE THERE!

58 posted on 08/17/2007 3:28:59 PM PDT by Alkhin (star dust contemplating star dust)
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To: BillyBoy

part of it was also the weak opposition.

We had one republican in the primary who was advocating closer ties with cuba!

The sad fact is that Martinex did what he was recruited to do and ONLY recruited to do. He was recruited because he was a warm body that could win and have Democrats spend their money someplace else.

Republicans abandoned FL to Bill Nelson (as if a reciprocal back room deal) when poison pill Harris insisted on abandoning her safe house seat for a doomed senate run.


59 posted on 08/17/2007 4:15:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory; All
You have to deal with the cards you are dealt.

BOTH Martinez (2004) and Harris (2006) had opponents in the GOP primary, and NEITHER one received a majority of Florida Republicans support. If all the conservatives here whining about Martinez had thought things over in the PRIMARY and voted for the best candidate rather than the "electable" one who had his butt firmly attached to Bush's behind, the general election might have looked quite different.

I have no sympathy for the "conservatives" in Florida who helped Martinez win the nomination and now whining about him. I warned them that Martinez was a former liberal RAT turned professional trial lawyer who only got a cabinet position because he decided to become Bush's yes-man. For telling the truth about Martinez, many of here were labeled anti-hispanic and pro-Castor, as IF Mel Martinez was the only person on the planet with an "R" next to his name who could "win" in Florida. How about all the useful idiots who screamed "anti-hispanic" at the rest of us for pointing out Martinez's pro-amnesty views apologize? I hven't seen them on FR lately. Well, they got their boy Mel nominated, they deserve him.

Seems nobody here wants to ADMIT they supported Mel in the primary over more worthy Republicans. Too bad. I've supported candidates in the primary and learned from my mistakes. Apprently some Florida freepers want to rewrite history and claim "Gee whiz, the ONLY choices we had wuz Mel and Betty, we only voted for cuz we didn't want a Democrat". WRONG. That's why we have primary elections.

For a "red state", Florida has a real sorry excuse for Senators. I think history would be alot different in Flordians had opted for Bill McCollum in 2004 (just because he lost to Nelson doesn't mean he automatically loses to any Democrat), and Will McBride in 2006.

Again, any Republican who supported Martinez in the primary DESERVES him. Thanks to roughly 45% of Florida Republicans getting on this guy's bandwagon, the rest of the country is stuck with him.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

2004 FLORIDA GOP PRIMARY -- U.S. SENATE
Martinez - 45.2%
McCollum - 31%
Gallagher - 13.6%
Byrd - 5.6%
Saull - 1.7%
March - 1.5%
Klayman - 1.1%

2006 FLORIDA GOP PRIMARY -- U.S. SENATE
Katherine Harris 49%
Will McBride 30%
LeRoy Collins 15%
Peter Monroe 6%

60 posted on 08/17/2007 8:47:53 PM PDT by BillyBoy (FACT: Governors WIN. Senators DON'T. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!)
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