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Fed Plan On Illegals Can't Be Enforced: Data Can't Be Used To Screen Workers
The Whittier Daily News ^ | August 17, 2007 | Lisa Friedman, Washington Bureau

Posted on 08/17/2007 7:28:22 AM PDT by truthkeeper

WASHINGTON - Days after unveiling a major crackdown on businesses that hire illegal immigrants, the Bush administration is now quietly admitting that its most heavily touted weapon in pursuing employers will be virtually useless.

At the heart of the new rules announced last week is toughened Homeland Security enforcement of so-called "no match" letters - which the Social Security Administration sends to companies when employees have questionable identification numbers.

But Homeland Security officials acknowledged this week that because of a privacy provision in the IRS code, immigration officials will actually have no way of knowing which employers have received "no-match" letters, which have complied and which have not.

"While we don't get information directly from the Social Security Administration, we do see that we get a lot of tips," DHS spokeswoman Veronica Nun Valdez said. "There are number of people that do come forward and tell us an employer is not conforming with the law."

In addition to working with informants, Valdez said immigration officials plan to step up investigations and raids, which will likely yield sanctions against violating companies.

But illegal-immigration hardliners said they feel bamboozled.

Many noted that working with tips and increasing raids is nothing new, and they said they had assumed that the government had resolved the long-standing data-sharing issue.

Bob Dane said that without Homeland Security being able to get information directly from the Social Security Administration, the new rules are just "empty threats."

"Good God, if they're going to spend money on postage and send out threatening letters, which are long overdue, they need to have some practical enforcement at the end," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at whittierdailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; deceit; endlessexcuses; government; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; lies
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To: ClaireSolt
Intelligent use of databases can spot the lawbreakers

Except that ain't allowed.

Unreal.

L

21 posted on 08/17/2007 8:03:46 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: truthkeeper
Bureaucracy at it's 'finest'.

Man do we need a SMALL Federal Government!!

22 posted on 08/17/2007 8:06:11 AM PDT by PISANO (There is NO security & there can be none as long as there are suicide bombers!!)
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To: truthkeeper

I want to give up folks, but I cannot. I too have a headache. Innocent people are dying at the hands of these invaders. I obey the law, these people don’t, yet I and you are the ones who are punished. I never thought I would see the day, where an invasion of our nation would be more important to the politicians than keeping the invaders from killing innocent Americans. I repeat, I never thought I would see the day, but now I have. All I can do as a law abiding citizen is shake my head and walk away, but these politicians have a surprise waiting, I am an elephant, I remember, even if I do receive nothing but headaches for my remembering. I will not wave a white flag. I will continue to fight the good fight. I will remember those who betrayed this nation, in congress, at the voting booth.


23 posted on 08/17/2007 8:17:46 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: truthkeeper
“I think they want the public to be so damaged and so fearful that they raise a clamor,” he said. Nassif, spokesman for employers of illegal aliens.

I guess Mr. Nassif was out of the planet a few weeks ago when the clamor shook the Capital building. FYI Mr. Nassif damaged and fearful have both been in town for several years.

24 posted on 08/17/2007 8:32:32 AM PDT by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: truthkeeper

Bob Dane said that without Homeland Security being able to get information directly from the Social Security Administration, the new rules are just “empty threats.”

And you KNOW that Bush and Chertoff knew that before their big announcement.
They think they can ‘handle’ the public, that we are stupid. Maybe they are right.


25 posted on 08/17/2007 8:32:44 AM PDT by sheana
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To: truthkeeper
This administration has perfected the art of shooting them selves in the ass.
26 posted on 08/17/2007 8:50:27 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: rightinthemiddle
Has anyone else heard this?

You can do and say what ever you want, the fair housing laws have not been extended to illegals. But I'm sure there are several in congress trying to do so by law and by intimidation.

27 posted on 08/17/2007 8:53:25 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: truthkeeper
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28 posted on 08/17/2007 9:38:06 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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29 posted on 08/17/2007 9:42:31 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: kinoxi

“Modify that provision of the IRS code.”

I guess that’s just too much rocket science for the Feds - do you think it could be because they don’t want to enforce the will of the people?


30 posted on 08/17/2007 9:46:02 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: truthkeeper
Camarota said he suspects the Bush administration hopes the business community, whose division over the recent Senate immigration compromise bill helped lead to its failure, will be galvanized into action by the threat of economic upheaval.

"What they really want to do is get the business community off the dime."

"I think they want the public to be so damaged and so fearful that they raise a clamor," he said.

As I said in several other threads, the enforcement promised by Chertoff is not to stop illegal aliens, but to get people from the Wall Street Journal and Chamber of Commerce people so upset that they will demand Congress pass amnesty.

One would have expected this declaration of war against the American people from a Democrat administration. It is so sad and indicative of how far the Republican Establishment has been corrupted by power to see it come from them.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

31 posted on 08/17/2007 9:57:09 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: truthkeeper

The guberment has absolutely no problem doing this to determine if a disabled veteran determined to have been rated Individual Unemployeablity (100% disabled and unable to work) is working and earning more than $9000 / year. Its the guberments way determining if the vet is truely unemployable.


32 posted on 08/17/2007 9:57:13 AM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: Lurker

Simple - you change the code!!!!


33 posted on 08/17/2007 10:12:23 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: truthkeeper

Bush administration on illegal emmigration:

“We’ve tried nothing, and we are all out of ideas”


34 posted on 08/17/2007 10:16:42 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Double Tap

Yep. Nothing done and no ideas. But, they DO have ideas

about cheap labor and new votes.

IN Calif aliens are protected in school and college:


“... SEC. 6. Section 212 is added to the Education Code, to read:
212. “Nationality” includes citizenship, country of origin, and national origin.
SEC. 7. ... “


35 posted on 08/17/2007 11:03:08 AM PDT by biscuit jane ( build the #%^@&+ wall already !)
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To: Lurker

I don’t believe this for one dam second!!

Bush can order it anytime he wants to.


36 posted on 08/17/2007 11:52:47 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Travis McGee; Lurker

“They won’t do what they don’t want to do, which is tackle the alien invasion.

Public posturing is just window dressing.”

Exactly!


37 posted on 08/17/2007 11:55:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: Lurker

No, but I’m getting a big pain in my Bush!


38 posted on 08/17/2007 1:05:10 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: pallis
Meanwhile, there is a camera on every street light, a computer monitoring your phone calls, and a spy satellite surveying your yard.

This is all to keep the law abiding portion of the population under control.

Ayn Rand :

"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. "

39 posted on 08/17/2007 1:22:56 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: truthkeeper

DHS was created as an integral part of a fedgov plan to get federal agencies talking to each other and sharing information.

If that’s not gonna happen, then DHS needs to be disbanded and defunded.

All this has happened on Bush’s watch. It truly is his fault.


40 posted on 08/17/2007 1:29:43 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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