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At least the top placing GOP candidates are making attempts to appeal to the majority of Americans. If they make campaign promises now, America has something to hold them to if one of them becomes President. This is more than we have with the Republican party. See my post on Critical Mass.
1 posted on 08/17/2007 7:34:19 AM PDT by JKrive
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The two leading Republican presidential candidates have turned the GOP primary campaign into a nasty, week-long debate about illegal immigration, accusing each other of supporting efforts to give undocumented residents sanctuary from federal immigration laws.

RINO fight! RINO fight!

Except Rudy loses this one in the end - after all, he sued up to the Supremes to keep NYC's sanctuary city policy in defiance of federal law - and then he turned around and defied the courts when they upheld the law.

2 posted on 08/17/2007 7:36:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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‘At least the top placing GOP candidates are making attempts to appeal to the majority of Americans.’

Haven’t you heard? Mel Martinez at RNC headquarters doesn’t need no stinkin majority of Americans....(eyes rolling)


5 posted on 08/17/2007 7:39:51 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

“Former mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the city’s sanctuary policy against a 1996 federal law decreeing that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. The INS, he claimed, with what turned out to be grotesque irony, only aims to “terrorize people.” Though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his handpicked charter-revision committee ruled that New York could still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later, several visa-overstayers participated in the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history.”


11 posted on 08/17/2007 7:45:59 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Thompson 2008!])
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I agree. Uberconservatives here won’t give them credit for anything, but they are clearly speaking to the issue. Fred has too. The fact that the POTENTIAL NOMINEES ARE ALL DISCUSSING WHAT TO DO ABOUT ILLEGALS IS A BIG PLUS.


14 posted on 08/17/2007 7:53:58 AM PDT by LS (``)
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I hope Fred adopts some of the following strategic points, as none of the others have the spine so far to do so:

1. Allow the illegal immigrants that are here already to stay and WORK, provided they register into a national data base that then PROHIBITS them from EVER voting in America, unless and until they return to their country and go through legal channels for legal immigration status and eventual path to citizenship. If they don’t go back to their country, and just want to work, ok, but NO VOTING. This offsets the Democratic Party mass registration plans.

2. Any illegal immigrants jailed for breaking the law should be deported immediately, and the President should set aside (NOW) emergency funds to pay local governments for the deportation.

3. Any illegal gang members - same as above — gone. (I like Ike’s Operation Wetback procedure in 1958 that put them on ships destined for Vera Cruz).

4. All employed illegal immigrants, once registered into the data base, then must have required private health care coverage that includes a family doctor (to lighten the loads in hospital emergency rooms where illegals use the emergency rooms for doctor visits).

5. BUILD THE FENCE — starting now, with enough funds (multiple outsourced contracts east-to-west, west-to-east, and center-outwards) to complete by 2009.

6. Require ENGLISH for all illegals and their children.

7. Uninsured illegal motorists — deportation.

15 posted on 08/17/2007 7:56:38 AM PDT by detch
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The fact that they're "arguing" about illegal immigration the invasion is neither here nor there. They bend with the wind and so far none of them has promised to honor the U.S. Constitution and work to remove those laws that are in blatent violation of it, such as the GCA. Their discussions are nothing more than continued political pandering. When it stops, people like us will notice. Until that time here's to the GOP! -

The GOP Condom!
18 posted on 08/17/2007 8:25:12 AM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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the only thing they are fighting over is the name to call amnesty that would not be using the name amnesty, since they both support amnesty.
19 posted on 08/17/2007 8:37:39 AM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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If the top placing GOP candidates were making attempts to appeal to the majority of Americans, they would all be saying NO to AMNESTY, without any compromise,for any illegal aliens, and that’s not the case.


28 posted on 08/17/2007 10:09:26 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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34 posted on 08/17/2007 4:11:43 PM PDT by ma bell (bollocks... its just bollocks)
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