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African Summit Ignores Zimbabwe's Woes
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8-18-2007 | Sebastien Berger

Posted on 08/17/2007 7:47:00 PM PDT by blam

African summit ignores Zimbabwe's woes

By Sebastien Berger
Last Updated: 2:27am BST 18/08/2007

President Kabila of the Democratic Republic of Congo[left], Robert Mugabe and President Kikwete

Zimbabwe's neighbours wound up a two-day regional summit yesterday without discussing the turmoil in the country under Robert Mugabe.

The Zambian president, Levy Mwanawasa, who earlier this year described Zimbabwe as a "sinking Titanic", proposed a review of its political and economic crisis but other leaders did not respond positively.

Mr Mugabe had been loudly cheered when the Southern African Development Community (SADC) summit opened on Thursday.

The failure to confront him despite his people's suffering under hyperinflation, poverty and malnutrition was not unexpected, even though the area's leaders regularly stress that the solution to Zimbabwe's problems must be regional.

Zimbabwe's presidential spokesman, George Charamba. said: "There was nothing extraordinary to warrant a discussion on Zimbabwe. SADC nations are mandated to help Zimbabwe and we will not go beyond those parameters."

Mr Mugabe retains a high standing in much of Africa for his role in Zimbabwe's independence struggle. The ruling Zanu-PF party has run an effective propaganda campaign to convince many Africans that Western sanctions are to blame for the country's plight. These are, however, limited to a visa ban and asset freezes on named individuals and have no effect on the economy.

Thabo Mbeki, the South African president, who is mediating between Zanu-PF and the opposition Movement for Democratic Change on SADC's behalf, told his fellow leaders that some progress had been made, but no details were made available.

The Portuguese deputy foreign minister signalled that Mr Mugabe would be invited to an EU-Africa summit in Lisbon in December, despite the sanctions. Portugal had "no intention of discriminating" against Zimbabwe, he said. "It is not up to Portugal, current head of the EU, to invite some people rather than others."

Britain strongly supports the sanctions and a Foreign Office spokesman said: "We want a summit that delivers real results for Africa and we don't want anything to overshadow that agenda, including Robert Mugabe."

•The Ministry of Defence is reviewing contingency plans to evacuate Britons from Zimbabwe. Existing plans would advise Britons to drive to South Africa, but the department was considering chartering planes to remove them from the region should it become more volatile.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: african; mugabe; summit; zimbabwe

1 posted on 08/17/2007 7:47:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: Clive

Zim Ping.


2 posted on 08/17/2007 7:47:45 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

I am reminded of a line by P.O. Rourke I read years ago that Africa’s problems are caused largely by Africans.


3 posted on 08/17/2007 7:48:48 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Scuze me, P.J.


4 posted on 08/17/2007 7:49:41 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: blam

Mr Mugabe retains a high standing in much of Africa for his role in Zimbabwe’s independence struggle

That says all you need to know about Africa’s future.


5 posted on 08/17/2007 7:50:06 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: blam
The failure to confront him despite his people's suffering under hyperinflation, poverty and malnutrition was not unexpected, even though the area's leaders regularly stress that the solution to Zimbabwe's problems must be regional.

Zimbabwe's presidential spokesman, George Charamba. said: "There was nothing extraordinary to warrant a discussion on Zimbabwe. SADC nations are mandated to help Zimbabwe and we will not go beyond those parameters."

Of course they will not conduct a discussion on Rhodesia. To do so would only lead to the facts. Can’t be having the facts discussed that they inherently can not rule themselves. It would prove that the White Minority rule was, is and will be the only way for that area to prosper.

6 posted on 08/17/2007 7:55:48 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: blam
Mr Mugabe had been loudly cheered when the Southern African Development Community (SADC) summit opened on Thursday.

Every single thing that is wrong with Africa, encapsulated in one sentence.

7 posted on 08/17/2007 7:59:29 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny
Mr Mugabe had been loudly cheered when the Southern African Development Community (SADC) summit opened on Thursday.

Every single thing that is wrong with Africa, encapsulated in one sentence.

Zona, ndithu (Chichewa, from Malawi, for "The total truth!)

Rest assured that the people of Malawi know the results of dictatorship from bozos like Robert Mugabe.

8 posted on 08/17/2007 8:15:34 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: blam; Cincinatus' Wife; sarcasm; happygrl; Byron_the_Aussie; robnoel; GeronL; ZOOKER; Bonaparte; ...

Africa Wins Again


9 posted on 08/17/2007 8:49:05 PM PDT by Clive
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To: muawiyah

How much do you know about the Zimbabwe situation? What is your solution?


10 posted on 08/17/2007 8:53:06 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam

Africa is its own worst enemy.
Trillions of dollars of aid money and most gobbled up in scams and corruption.
An endless money pit for aid and exploited for its raw materials, Africa is nearly a lost cause.


11 posted on 08/18/2007 2:37:05 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: TLI
When was the last time Zimbabweans had a free and fair election? Oh wait, it's been a while, hasn't it?

Doens't really count as ruling themselves, does it? No need to let that stand in the way of your smug sense of self-superiority of those brown folk, though.

Who let all the nuts into MY Free Republic?

12 posted on 08/18/2007 3:29:24 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII
Doens't really count as ruling themselves, does it? No need to let that stand in the way of your smug sense of self-superiority of those brown folk, though.

Who let all the nuts into MY Free Republic?



Ah yes, the “racist” gambit. How clever of you.

If I may be allowed to comment as just another "nut" here on YOUR Free Republic (?), there have been several "elections" all just about as free as the one shoved down Rhodesia’s throat courtesy of the UN butt smoocher Carter at the demanding of the “majority” at the time. In the light of the fact that the election was demanded by the majority populace then it is that very same majority that is responsible for the current state of that nation. Sorry, but there is no way to attempt to blame anyone else for what that majority population brought upon themselves.

When the situation with Mugaby is SO bad that even Zambian President Mwanawasa said things are out of hand then folks, it's B-A-D. And "things" have got to change. And the first on is to not let a small tribal-rule culture attempt to run an entire nation.

IT IS NOT WORKING.

Given that the tribal rule has existed probably several thousands of years and produced little to nothing has clearly demonstrated over recent generations that in order to have an actual productive society as a nation, not a cluster of tribes, it is best that in that area the locals not be put in charge.

This is clearly demonstrated in three major screw-ups. The abolition of seats reserved for whites in the country's Parliament in 1987; the abolition of the office of Prime Minister in 1987, and the creation of an all executive presidency with the abolition of the Senate in 1990 which pretty much wraps up the argument as to what the current "government" is all about. It is about dictatorship. AND it is wholly (and stupidly) supported by the majority population.

Of course one could sat that the best thing for "those people" is to let nature take it's course, much as it has for over twenty years now and if, IF anything worth salvaging is left then perhaps it might be worth the effort for a force from a reasonably civil society to go in and establish a sane government.

Odds are that left to their own devices for another 10 years there will be absolutely nothing left except for a few migrant drifting tribes. Which not surprisingly is EXACTLY what was there before the actual development began by the hated "minority rule" and took that region to its pinnacle as the shining star of the continent, the "breadbasket of Africa."

Until then and given that most of Mugabe’s "peers" wish to continue in their course of "nothing wrong here, nothing to discuss" I would have to say that the lot of them, not just the rulers but all of the majority are equally guilty and equally responsible for the current state of that nation. This is clearly demonstrated here…“Mr Mugabe had been loudly cheered when the Southern African Development Community (SADC) summit opened on Thursday. Until such time as this is recognized as insanity by the participating population not a trillion dollars in aid will do a single bit of good and not one dime should be sent or one day’s labor wasted.

That being so, then your answer is a very "smug" (as you put it), No; they are not capable of ruling themselves. Or perhaps you think one of the other tribes can do a better job at overseeing the idiocy they call "Zimbabwe?" Personally, I knew the country was doomed in `91 when friends that were in RLI were coming here to the US with stories of the local pops digging up the copper water lines that fan out from the community wells. Why? For beer money. They destroyed their own clean water supply for a couple of night worth of beer money…

13 posted on 08/18/2007 11:22:18 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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