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Is Osama bin Laden Dead?
Jerusalem Post / The First Post ^ | August 18, 2007 | Robert Fox

Posted on 08/18/2007 7:18:33 AM PDT by seanrobins

Has he really died of typhoid? robert fox weighs the claim and its implications

Osama bin Laden, charismatic founder of al-Qaeda, died of typhoid earlier this month in Pakistan, according to a highly classified intelligence brief given to the King of Saudi Arabia and President Chirac this week, and leaked to the French newspaper L'Est Republicain.

The chief of the terror group was known to have been suffering from acute typhoid and seeking treatment in Pakistan in mid-August. This was picked up and tracked by Saudi intelligence services. The same sources, said by the French to be very reliable, believe he later died.

The powerful Pakistani intelligence agency the ISI - at times virtually a parallel government, instrumental among other things in founding the Taliban - has not confirmed the report. "We have no information on Osama's death," a senior Pakistan Interior Ministry official said on Saturday morning.

Bin Laden last appeared on video in 2004. A few poor-quality audio tapes purporting to be of his voice surfaced earlier this year - but it was impossible to say when the original recordings were made.

The reaction of the bin Laden command cell of al-Qaeda to the fifth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks was surprisingly muted and unfocused. It said al-Qaeda would attack "American targets" again, and that all Americans should "convert to Islam".

It is now clear that most of the talking, and broadcasting, by the old command cell has been done by Dr Ayman al-Zawahiri, spokesman and ideologue for bin Laden and always seen as his Number 2. The highly articulate doctor came to the surface in the security operations following the assassination of Egypt's President Anwar Sadat in October 1981. He can only exist in the shadow of the magnetism of bin Laden and is not seen as a leader or strategist in his own right.

Much the same goes for the al-Qaeda movement as a whole. Like other, admittedly smaller, terrorist groups such as Italy's Red Brigades, it has found it hard to reprise its big spectacular. It has never done anything like 9/11 since. Attacks like the Bali and Mombasa bombs, the train and transport bombings in Madrid in 2004 and London in July last year may have been carried out in the name of Islamic revolution - adopting the al-Qaeda logo as it were - but they were not under bin Laden's direct command.

The attacks appear to be loosely linked homegrown efforts whose ideological and operational roots are in Pakistan and Bangladesh as much as in the bin Laden training camps in Waziristan and Kashmir.

The death of bin Laden, if it is confirmed, will be cloaked in the propaganda of martyrdom, mourning and revenge. It could also trigger a major rethink of such notions as "Global War on Terror", which is long overdue. It will be a blow to the sloganising of the neo-conservatives - and their notion of the "clash of civilisations" - and to the high-flown rhetoric of President Bush and Prime Minister Blair.

It is likely to mean not so much "back to basics" in tackling terrorism, but back to the practicalities of how to deal with terrorists in the real world.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: elvisbinladen; manhunt; obl; osamabinladen
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1 posted on 08/18/2007 7:18:35 AM PDT by seanrobins
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To: seanrobins

Thailand?


2 posted on 08/18/2007 7:19:49 AM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: seanrobins

I think Bin Laden died at Tora Bora.


3 posted on 08/18/2007 7:20:09 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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To: seanrobins
Again???
4 posted on 08/18/2007 7:21:59 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: BluH2o

. . . and Again, and Again, and Again . . .

We’ve gotta keep killing this bastard until he’s dead.

And then kill him again . . .


5 posted on 08/18/2007 7:23:00 AM PDT by seanrobins (http://www.seanrobins.com)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I think he has been dead a long time too, but however he died, I hope the SOB suffered horribly.


6 posted on 08/18/2007 7:23:45 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: seanrobins

>>according to a highly classified intelligence brief given to the King of Saudi Arabia and President Chirac this week<<

Huh? Chirac is still in office? This must be news to Sarkozy.


7 posted on 08/18/2007 7:24:29 AM PDT by KingSnorky
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To: seanrobins

Castro’s dead, too.


8 posted on 08/18/2007 7:24:31 AM PDT by Jemian (PAM of JT ~~ Liberalism only works in the abstract.)
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To: seanrobins

Maybe he was “Good Buddies” with Arrafat?


9 posted on 08/18/2007 7:25:25 AM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got Towel?)
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To: seanrobins

Fox News in Dec of 2001 thought it was dead as well. Pakistan made the case for his death. May have died from complications with his diabetes according to the sources.

I always thought if he weren’t dead, after the Paky’s went into the Red Mosque, that would have brought him out to condemn that act.

So is he dead or really sick? I would really like to know.


10 posted on 08/18/2007 7:26:06 AM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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To: KingSnorky

>>according to a highly classified intelligence brief given to the King of Saudi Arabia and President Chirac this week<<

>>Huh? Chirac is still in office? This must be news to Sarkozy.

YES!!! That’s what’s so “highly classified” about the information. :-)


11 posted on 08/18/2007 7:26:12 AM PDT by seanrobins (http://www.seanrobins.com)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I agree.


12 posted on 08/18/2007 7:26:54 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: seanrobins

Be nice to think he died that way, but...


13 posted on 08/18/2007 7:29:00 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: AmericanMade1776

Agreed.

I think the guy has been cave paste for many years now


14 posted on 08/18/2007 7:29:50 AM PDT by SShultz460
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To: seanrobins

He’s being sodomized by demons this very moment.


15 posted on 08/18/2007 7:31:10 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: seanrobins

>>YES!!! That’s what’s so “highly classified” about the information. :-)<<

LOL! Shoot...had I known that before reading the article, I would’ve worn my trenchcoat with the collar turned up.


16 posted on 08/18/2007 7:31:49 AM PDT by KingSnorky
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"...the high-flown rhetoric of President Bush..."

Dubya has been accused of a lot of things but this is a first!

What planet is this guy from?
He's never heard Dubya speak, has he?

17 posted on 08/18/2007 7:31:57 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: seanrobins

OBL will live forever.


18 posted on 08/18/2007 7:33:59 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Bin Laden dead?

Right now looks like most of us believe he is dead. So why the F do they keep showing him every couple of years as alive and well living in front of a gray back drop?

One video I saw of him he looked very thin and weak. Next time I saw him it looked as though he gained 20 pounds. Is he pregnant?


19 posted on 08/18/2007 7:35:43 AM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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To: seanrobins
He is dead. The U.S. government knows it for a fact, too. They tested some remains found in Tora Bora. DNA doesn't lie. The U.S. State Department notified Bin Laden's kin but they did not notify Americans. Why is that, anyway? Meanwhile, Al Qaeda broadcasts fake Osama bin Fak'in releases. Why is that?

Why are our borders wide open while we are at war ? ? ?

20 posted on 08/18/2007 7:38:26 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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