Posted on 08/18/2007 10:37:04 AM PDT by Kaslin
Norweigan Blue??
Remarkable bird, isn’t it???
It is a free country boop, you can have anything you want that is not illegal. However, I hope you read my post about "jury reform."
I want to preface this with, "I know that respect must be earned." But throwing lightnig bolts will not be effective for your purpose because they cannot be aimed with precision. The collateral damage feeds the problem.
You have my respect and I would do what I could to help you if I knew you. The kidney stone lady should have served time. So do you have a low opinion of me?
Yep you got me. I told you that I was lying and that all lawyers are great. What more do you want? Just for laughs, I did a little research and discovered that MD's can prevent all cases of CP. According to the top CP attornies on Google, doctors can always prevent it. One lawyer group agreed with you that doctors are lying when they say that CP can't always be predicted. When I was in med school, we learned about pre-birth anoxia as a possible cause. We has lots of pregnant women that had rapid decels, but a c-section was not immediately done. Sometimes the infant was too premature and anti-contraction meds were given. That apparently causes it too. I found out from the attornies that even if there are no prenatal development abnormalities, no rapid decels, the child is born with full APGAR scores, no other birth trauma occurs that the doctor still could have prevented CP. I reviewed the medical literature and they have concluded that increasing the c-section rate has not significantly reduced the incidence of CP. Therefore it stands to reason that MDs know the cause and are just trying to increase their fees. After all we know what the cause is and we don't prevent it. Again, I learned a lot and you are right. I'll tell my friends that have been sued that they were of course wrong. I admit that when the lady brought in the piece of quartz it COULD have been a kidney stone. They are usually a dark color but this one was pinkish. Again, you're the expert, not I. You were there,I wasn't. I made it up and have never had a patient lie to me.
No. Why would I? I've never met you. As I've said I have good friends who are lawyers. I've never said all lawyers are bad. I've had bad experiences with lawyers who tell me what "should have happened" when they weren't there. Sometimes really awful things happen in medicine and nobody can predict them. I had a patient come in who was 7-8 months pregnant, no prenatal care (not uncommon in my patient population) who hadn't felt the baby move in 2 days. When we put the ultrasound over the abdomen you could see this beautiful baby, but it's heart wasn't moving. One of the many times where I just had to leave the room temporarily because I was crying. This woman was just saying "wake up baby, wake up". The worst part was that because the baby was so well developed, she delivered it vaginally, stillborn. She had to go through the pain and anguish knowing her baby was dead. I haven't ever hear a more mournful cry and I will never forget it.
Another case we had in the ER was a 2 year old who fell into his families hot tub (turned off) so it was called a warm water drowning. He was found by his dad who was one of our anaesthesiologists. The dad actually intubated his own son. We were able to get a heartbeat, as we often can with little ones, but the brain was finished. Again, it was difficult to even be in the room because of the level of incomprehensible pain this family was going through. You do your job, hold it together, and cry later. I also was at the autopsy of a 15 month old who died in the care of his babysitter. You just aren't the same after going through these things.
I know boop. May God bless you for what you have gone through and keep you safe so that you may continue the good you do.
I've had bad experiences with lawyers who tell me what "should have happened" when they weren't there. Sometimes really awful things happen in medicine and nobody can predict them.
I know this well too. Litigation is a poor way to reconstruct reality. I am not saying our system is a perfect one. But I am saying that it works best when it is given the chance to work. "Jury reform," as I have described it, is when the intelligent and successful serve on juries, rather than using their god given talent to think of ways to shirk service. With jurors like that, the "market" for bad cases (like quartz kidney stone) becomes all the more tight.
There will always be some "demand" for bad cases because people will always be unhappy about a service they received, even when you execute flawlessly. It takes time and effort to weed the garden of both disgruntaled patients and incompetent lawyers. So believe me I understand your frustration.
Take care my FRiend.
P.S. If you were Summoned to serve as a juror, would you think of ways to "get out of it"?
Seriously, I have been a party to at least 7 “class-action” lawsuits in the past 15 years and never once did I ask to be a party to it. You are added automatically and have to “ask” to be excluded, that is, if you even know about it before it is settled.
The only people getting anything in these suits are the lawyers. The whole legal system is a big joke (on us).
Lawyers brought the suit, so don’t excuse them. Juries can be a big joke also.
Because its true. Deal with it!
You are a parrot repeating the same BS yourself, so who’s the one who should be ashamed?
Don’t put words in my mouth fool! I never said that. I said both trials were a joke. The first was because justice was denied.
The second trial was a waste of time because the only one who has gotten much of anything was the Goldman lawyers.
Thank you so much for the post. I doubt Iwo Jima will ever forgive me, but I know there are good people in law. I’ve been very lucky to call them friends. I’ve been soured by a couple of cases, but I guess it’s unfair to make a blanket condemnation of everyone in the profession. There are bad apples in my line as well. I’ve had to call out some of my collegues in some instances. That’s REALLY awkward. Doctors can’t stand condemnation or second guessing and I’ve nearly come to blows over it. One time my fellow resident almost defibrillated a patient who had a pulse, the nurses came to me because they knew it was wrong and I had to take over the code from him even though it was his case. Lets just say he wasn’t happy about that.
As for your question, I would serve on jury if asked, but usually I get excused from duty. Dentists can get an automatic exemption, but MDs do not. I’ve had to write the court a couple of times. The one time I was empaneled, the defense attorney saw I was a physician and used me as his first challenge (if that’s the right term) to take me off the jury.
The solution is clear! We get together and file a class action suit against lawyers!
Yes that is the right term. All the better you went because it increased the "supply" of good jurors. Maybe I should call this thing "supply side jury reform."
Take care my FRiend.
P.S. your handle cracks me up!
A reasonable amount for pain and suffering, plus two or three times the amount of lifetime earnings the family has lost. I can see that. But this is just a lottery win for the family and the law firm. What gets me is the number of lawsuits you hear about where the family members likely did not give a crap about the deceased....but they sure begin having “pain & suffering” when they figure how deep the companies pockets are.
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